• American Poll shows Belief in God Down, Belief in Ghosts Up
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[QUOTE=areolop;43221044]No one believes in them until they've had an encounter with one[/QUOTE] Which of course doesn't mean anything since it still proves nothing.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43223489][I]Pseudo[/I]-scientific, perhaps. The people I've spoken to, and also read articles by/watched videos of that draws the "but it can be explained with science!!" card usually rambles on about quantum theory here and multiverse theory there, without having any form of understanding for what it is they're talking about. Drastically misunderstanding and abusing the word "Energy" also seems to be one of their hobbies.[/QUOTE] Don't forget "orbs" and "electromagnetic fields"
[QUOTE=GreenDolphin;43225719]Which of course doesn't mean anything since it still proves nothing.[/QUOTE] it proves that we are gullible little primates.
[QUOTE=areolop;43221044]No one believes in them until they've had an encounter with one[/QUOTE] I've had numerous encounters with leprechauns. They gave me their gold and that's how I'm paying for Christmas presents!
It'd be cool if ghosts did have a legit scientific explanation.
I'm more scared of ghosts than I am of going to hell.
A ghost drank my pepsi once before I could, now I'm a firm believer.
A pimp died in my house before I lived there that's probably why all the girls come through. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/Elendil6/Smilies/itisamystery5if6jb.gif[/img]
How does one even believe in UFO's? Anything that we can't explain and flies is a UFO..
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;43218867][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca]Just because someone's a witch doesn't necessarily make them the traditional Halloween witch.[/url][/QUOTE] I knew a Wiccan girl. She went salem witch trial status on me and said I tried to attack her with my aura or something.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43218783]i had sex with a witch once. like she legitimately thought she could cast spells.[/QUOTE] Fucked a wiccan guy once. Sexy talk consisted of telling him how I'd make him my vampire slave. 10/10, would convert to paganism.
Evolution happened and anyone that says it didn't is a fucking idiot. i dont give a fart if you want to say "its my beliefs leave it alone!!!" because the fact you truly believe you aren't full of shit doesn't make the slightest of differences to the facts. creationism deserves exactly the same amount of respect that ideas expressed by holocaust deniers should receive. (none.)
Only ghost I know is that guy from MOW.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;43219043]I dont think you have any idea what youre talking about, because last time i checked, public highschool biology was required to teach evolution[/QUOTE] My high school barely taught evolution. We briefly ran through it, and I don't think we even covered the entire human side of it. All I remember is learning vaguely about how bird A is connected to bird B through a similar ancestor and environmental adaptations. At the end of it all, it was basically memorizing about 10 vocab words, taking the test, and forgetting it. There's no way it was taught thorough enough for anyone to develop an understanding of it. we were "taught" evolution, but didn't really learn about it
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;43218640]Wait, only 47% of people believe in evolution? What the hell?[/QUOTE] i have literally never met anybody who doesn't believe in evolution america is silly
if i were a ghost i would ride roller coasters, shit would be legit as hell you wouldn't need to wait in line
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;43218448]it's true there's a ghost who splashes water on my balls when i'm sitting on the toilet[/QUOTE] 3/10 it's suppose to be spits
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;43228773]I'm sure when they use UFO in that context they mean alien spacecraft that has visited Earth.[/QUOTE] More likely than Astrology being a real thing Thankfully any credible scientist believes in Evolution so its doesn't really effect us if people wanna be idiots
[QUOTE=Saxon;43232585]More likely than Astrology being a real thing Thankfully any credible scientist believes in Evolution so its doesn't really effect us if people wanna be idiots[/QUOTE] The same people who don't believe in Evolution often also don't believe in Global Warming So their stupidity still effects you.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;43229637]Evolution happened and anyone that says it didn't is a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE] To be perfectly honest, beliveing in evolution is more or less based on the same amount of blind faith for [U]most[/U] people, as believeing in creationism/intelligent design is. In both cases you get told how the world works, and in both cases you get statements which explain how and why the ideas make sense, without actually being able to find out for yourself. If you ask someone why they believe in evolution, they'll probably give you an answer resembling this one: "Because tremendous amounts of research conducted by people which I believe to be way more intelligent than me says so, and I think it makes sense". Does this mean that they now necessarily know the truth? That they know the research was properly executed, and the conclusions 100% accurate? No, they still blindly believe what they've been told, because they trust the sources. I don't really think I have to explain how blind faith relates to religion. In my opinion, it's not exactly fair to claim that someone has a lower capability of logical thinking than you because of something like this. It should probably also be noted that I believe in evolution, yes.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43240744]To be perfectly honest, beliveing in evolution is more or less based on the same amount of blind faith for most people, as believeing in creationism/intelligent design is. In both cases you get told how the world works, and in both cases you get statements which explain how and why the ideas make sense, without actually being able to find out for yourself. If you ask someone why they believe in evolution, they'll probably give you an answer resembling this one: "Because tremendous amounts of research conducted by people which I believe to be way more intelligent than me says so, and I think it makes sense". Does this mean that they now necessarily know the truth? That they know the research was properly executed, and the conclusions 100% accurate? No, they still blindly believe what they've been told, because they trust the sources. I don't really think I have to explain how blind faith relates to religion. In my opinion, it's not exactly fair to state that someone has a lower capability of logical thinking than you because of something like this. It should probably also be noted that I believe in evolution, yes.[/QUOTE] You are completely wrong. There is abundant evidence pointing towards evolution. Fossils show evidence of ancient organisms that show us how modern organisms evolved over time. Vestigial organs and bones inside of us and other species show us how we evolved. We can see natural selection in action happening around us every day. All that fuss over super antibiotic resistant bacteria? That's because of natural selection, and the bacteria is evolving over time. It's a very logical progression. Creationism, on the other hand, flies in the face of all science and evidence that we have discovered so far.
Yeah but it's difficult to get someone to change an opinion once that opinion has formed. If you've been indoctrinated by the anti-evolution crowd your whole life then there is a good chance you will be anti-evolution yourself.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43240744]To be perfectly honest, beliveing in evolution is more or less based on the same amount of blind faith for [U]most[/U] people, as believeing in creationism/intelligent design is. In both cases you get told how the world works, and in both cases you get statements which explain how and why the ideas make sense, without actually being able to find out for yourself. If you ask someone why they believe in evolution, they'll probably give you an answer resembling this one: "Because tremendous amounts of research conducted by people which I believe to be way more intelligent than me says so, and I think it makes sense". Does this mean that they now necessarily know the truth? That they know the research was properly executed, and the conclusions 100% accurate? No, they still blindly believe what they've been told, because they trust the sources. I don't really think I have to explain how blind faith relates to religion. In my opinion, it's not exactly fair to claim that someone has a lower capability of logical thinking than you because of something like this. It should probably also be noted that I believe in evolution, yes.[/QUOTE] Evolution is easily testable in the most basic of college biology labs. It it therefore leagues more plausible than creationism. Also the fact that bacteria are readily becoming resistant to antibiotics is another way we know it's true. No need for blind faith.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;43233914]The same people who don't believe in Evolution often also don't believe in Global Warming So their stupidity still effects you.[/QUOTE] Not really The problem with global warming is that scientists and experts keep giving conflicting view points and data on what it actually is and then you got Al Gore who goes and makes a totally sensationalist documentary about it.
[QUOTE=Explosions;43240799]You are completely wrong. [B]There is abundant evidence pointing towards evolution. Fossils show evidence of ancient organisms that show us how modern organisms evolved over time. Vestigial organs and bones inside of us and other species show us how we evolved. We can see natural selection in action happening around us every day. All that fuss over super antibiotic resistant bacteria? That's because of natural selection, and the bacteria is evolving over time. It's a very logical progression.[/B] Creationism, on the other hand, flies in the face of all science and evidence that we have discovered so far.[/QUOTE] Yes. Which is some of the reasons why I believe in evolution, and see it as obvious, especially the latter part. However, the point still stands.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;43241149]Yes. Which is the reason why I believe in evolution. However, the point still stands.[/QUOTE] What? You said both evolution and creationism rely on blind faith. Then, you agree that evolution has abundant evidence. How does the point still stand?
[QUOTE=Explosions;43241172]What? You said both evolution and creationism rely on blind faith. Then, you agree that evolution has abundant evidence. How does the point still stand?[/QUOTE] Please note that I never meant to say that the theory of evolution relies on blind faith, and I'm sorry if I somehow phrased it that way, my point was; Some people believe in evolution out of blind faith, and those aren't any "better" than someone beliveing in creationism. I.E: You can't just say "People who believe in evolution are smarter than creationists, because they just are". This is also why I dislike when people say things such as "Yeah, well atleast I believe in a scientist instead of some old book", because if you haven't done any research of your own, and have no real understanding for why or how the person in question can say it, I kind of fail to see what the difference is. (Yes, I said "most people" in my first post, but this assumption is stupid and invalid, seeing as it's based around completely personal encounters and experiences, and can thus be disregarded).
I think you could say that for alot of people the acceptance of the evolutionary theory stems from similar sources as faith in god, for example reliance on authority. What if you are being lied to in biology class? Do your own experiences confirm what you are told? Can you trust your own experiences? You can say without questioning the evolutionary theory that people who accept it may not be effectively smarter or more independent than those who believe in god. Though this is pretty much heading into pointless philosophy territory where you just run into more and more questions and nothing helps because to function in society we have to take certain things for granted.
It seems more often than not that when someone stops believing in God they usually begin to start referencing some other sort of 'higher power' or something 'mystical." I can't even begin to name of how many people I've met that dropped Christianity/Islam/the big main religions and started going on about 'the universe' and 'throwing to the universe positive thoughts and energies' and 'attracting the universal energies to yourself to prosper." That, and goasts, spirits, demons, etc. Not that it's an issue or anything, but it is a bit interesting, as you'd think they'd just default to evolution or agnosticism or something. [editline]wat[/editline] [QUOTE=Rixxz2;43241149]Yes. Which is some of the reasons why I believe in evolution, and see it as obvious, especially the latter part. However, the point still stands.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say blind faith is exactly the same for both religion and evolution, but perhaps comparing religion and the big bang theory would be more appropriate. As both basically tell you the world farted itself into existence, one way or another.
[QUOTE=Explosions;43240799]You are completely wrong. There is abundant evidence pointing towards evolution. Fossils show evidence of ancient organisms that show us how modern organisms evolved over time. Vestigial organs and bones inside of us and other species show us how we evolved. We can see natural selection in action happening around us every day. All that fuss over super antibiotic resistant bacteria? That's because of natural selection, and the bacteria is evolving over time. It's a very logical progression. Creationism, on the other hand, flies in the face of all science and evidence that we have discovered so far.[/QUOTE] i think the point he was making was that since you can't really [i]see[/i] one animal evolve into another, that you sorta gotta take scientists' word that it's true. but that's not actually true because you can see mutations, microevolution, genetics, etc. all the time and you can even do experiments yourself.
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