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Any time somebody reminds me of GamerGate , I remember the existence of [URL="http://theralphretort.com/"]this site[/URL] and feel like vomiting. I want to believe that it is parody.
[QUOTE=Stopper;46623498]Do you get tax breaks in the US if you donate to charity? I know you do in some other countries, and it would make sense in this case.[/QUOTE]
charitable contributions are an above the line deduction, as in they reduce your income [I]before[/I] taxes are calculated. If she is a year or more behind on her taxes though, donating it now won't do anything, as deductions are only allowable in the year they are made.
in other words she's an idiot
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46623633]excuse me this is racist???[/QUOTE]
You're right, it is. You know what also is?
When privileged white trust fund babies with their tech writing jobs that mommy and daddy's connections gave them try and tell me that I'm a "white straight neckbeard" for supporting gg. Or when a black guy on twitter gets called a "sockpuppet" by the same kinds of slacktivists who claim to support social justice.
[QUOTE=Korova;46623655]When those tumblr teens get positions as journalists, it is threatening my way of life quite frankly. [/QUOTE]
If your way of life depends on the freedom to have big naked breasts swaying around in all of the video games you play you should maybe reconsider your prerogatives. That freedom isn't even being taken away, that shit's just being called awful.
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;46623677]You're right, it is. You know what also is?
When privileged white trust fund babies with their tech writing jobs that mommy and daddy's connections gave them try and tell me that I'm a "white straight neckbeard" for supporting gg. Or when a black guy on twitter gets called a "sockpuppet" by the same kinds of slacktivists who claim to support social justice.[/QUOTE]
Wait I thought that nothing mattered on the internet? If we've finally come to agreement that words on the internet matter then oh boy you better sit down so I can tell you about this place I found called "4chan." They still use the n-word on there!
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what are you even arguing about? seems like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
[QUOTE=Laferio;46623707]what are you even arguing about? seems like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.[/QUOTE]
That explains why he uses terms like, for instance if we or theoretically if in almost all of his posts in this thread\
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623309]How, theoretically speaking[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623351]Lets pretend that, magically[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623410]Like pretend for a second that I have a rare,[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623691]If your way of life depends on the freedom to have big naked breasts swaying around in all of the video games you play you should maybe reconsider your prerogatives. That freedom isn't even being taken away, that shit's just being called awful.[/QUOTE]Nice straw man. Try talking about something real for once.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623664]My favorite internet magic trick is when someone just finds some vaguely relevant "logical fallacies" on wikipedia and copies them into their post. Congratulations David Blaine, you've ignored my argument while pretending to be smart about it.
People are saying she did stuff wrong so I should be allowed to respond in kind.[/QUOTE]
So you're going to respond with some personal attacks rather than an actual argument. The fallacy of relative privation, off the top of my head, is when you act as if one problem isn't really a problem because there are bigger problems. This is far from true and is exactly what you did in your post. You implied that because there is bigger corruption issues in the AAA industry with bigger deals, that we should be worrying about that and not smaller scale instances.
And let me clarify, this isn't the time nor place I'm going to argue with [I]you[/I] about Anita because frankly, I dislike arguing with you.
[QUOTE=Aman;46623294]Do these people live in reality?[/QUOTE]
TERFs? Never really hard the term before but yeah, there's a lot of wicked radical feminists that don't include transwomen because they aren't "real" women or something dumb like that. Not surprisingly they also aren't too keen on non-white women either.
But yeah unfortunately they exist. Probably in their own little made up existence, but they're out there.
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[QUOTE=Squad1993;46623366]What bothers me is that she says she is in "ailing health."
ok fair enough, provide the proof. What did your doctor say?
I'll wait here.
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She was self diagnosed
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46623653]
The bribery for AAA games is another reason gaming journalism is laughable. It's not journalism. It's blogging with a hell of a lot of money involved. Indie games can be very, very profitable with a very small initial cost - trying to say "but these people do it worse!" doesn't mean shit. They're still fixing contests and colluding on reviews to give them financial gain. It's incredibly scummy behavior and you really shouldn't be defending it.[/QUOTE]
He isn't defending it, he is observing that the reactions seem unbalanced.
When it comes to rhetoric sure, indie game devs with a lot less to lose and their journalist friends with nothing to lose will say some crazy out there shit but the tangible financial effect of their collusion is a lot lower than we see with AAA developers and publishers, who very thinly hide their conflicts of interest behind marketing events. The vote fixing at IGF, the amount of "Gamers are Dead" articles in such a short time span, and the behavior of several journalist and indie devs certainly needs to be criticized; I'm not saying ignore it to only bitch about EA or whatever. I just want people to be as equally pissed off about the fact that Activision paid for several Youtubers and press folks to come out to their building, bought them expensive food and drink, threw a party for them, and oh it just so happens that everyone who went there thought the game was amazing. Or outright bribery like giving shit to journalists.
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Korova;46623655]When those tumblr teens get positions as journalists, it is threatening my way of life quite frankly. I don't want to live in a world where the behavior I've seen from these "respectable public figures" is anything near acceptable.[/QUOTE]
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Have you watched feminist frequency? Looked at SJW rhetoric on tumblr? Do you honestly believe that 3rd wave feminism is progressive? I suppose it is, if you consider reversing gender roles and reversing sexism and racism onto white men social progress. I don't have a problem with them publishing their critique, but when it's used in social academia, it makes me sick.
It's about ethics on a core level. Anita Sarkeesian and John McIntosh, two highly influential feminists/SJWs, are rotten people, just as their views are. Their influence is being felt all over popular culture, and it's only going to keep spreading.
Go ahead and deny this, it really makes no difference. The only thing here to blame for that is your objective ignorance.[/QUOTE]
I'm pro-GG but I find posts like these somewhat over the top.
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[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623691]If your way of life depends on the freedom to have big naked breasts swaying around in all of the video games you play you should maybe reconsider your prerogatives. That freedom isn't even being taken away, that shit's just being called awful.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I absolutely want that freedom. Why aren't people protesting a bunch of naked women in classical art? Games are art, and art can be in poor taste. If you don't want to see big naked breasts swinging around in games, stop playing those games. It's seriously simple. Don't watch shit you don't want to watch. I never see people protesting characters like Duke Nukem or the people in Warhammer 40K and Gears of War, despite those being hilariously unrealistic depictions of men.
If I don't want to see blood and gore on television, I don't watch The Walking Dead. If I don't want to see tits and sex on television, I don't subscribe to HBO. If I don't want to see tits in video games, I don't play those games. It's incredibly, unbelievably simple - it's also amazing how backwards it is for feminists to shame the female body.
Seriously. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Art should always have the right to portray sexist themes and ideas. It can portray racism and violence and all sorts of other shit, and nobody cares - but unrealistically busty women? It needs to be fought against and called out. It's no different than soccer moms and Jack Thompson protesting violence in video games.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623636]ok. all the words you said are wrong and i deny them. even if you convinced me that "sjws" were all "rotten people" you'd be hard pressed to convince me that a cabal of tumblr teens are actually a threat to your way of life.[/QUOTE]
There was a story a bit ago of a guy who was sent death threats. This is what happened.
[url]http://hokuto-ju-no-ken.tumblr.com/post/99774092444/well-that-was-a-surprisingly-real-phonecall[/url]
[url]http://hokuto-ju-no-ken.tumblr.com/post/101219150529/a-follow-up[/url]
The short story is that a dude was doxxed by some girl, so he called her parents to let them know what happened. The girl was pressured by her in real life friends into doing it, and then they harassed her for having a change of heart.
[quote]I dunno how to word it. It just had a profound impact on me. I have a lot of new followers because of my original doxxing and story about this girl. I just figured I should share this part of it as well. She’s suffering and being bullied by people she thought were friends because she stopped agreeing with them.[/quote]
So no, I don't think that this "cabal of tumblr teens" are a threat to me, but whenever I hear stories of a group of people brainwashing and threatening the young and impressionable, my heart goes out to them.
I don't think that all of these so-called "SJWs" who think it's okay to lie and harass people in the name of what they think is "the greater good" are terrible people; sometimes I think that a lot of them are just scared little boys and girls who got caught up in the wrong crowd.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623636]ok. all the words you said are wrong and i deny them. even if you convinced me that "sjws" were all "rotten people" [B]you'd be hard pressed to convince me that a cabal of tumblr teens are actually a threat to your way of life.[/B][/QUOTE]
They're pretty much in bed with gaming journalism as a whole and gets significantly more media attention (specifically, sympathetic ears) than the opposition. Writing them off as "some cabal of tumblr teens" is really downplaying their connection with the gaming industry.
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Wait I thought that nothing mattered on the internet? If we've finally come to agreement that words on the internet matter then oh boy you better sit down so I can tell you about this place I found called "4chan." They still use the n-word on there![/QUOTE]
there's a difference between this message board we can't seem to get ourselves away from, and a major worldwide social media network where what you say can matter and reverberate past hundreds of people
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46623741]
I'm pro-GG but I find posts like these somewhat over the top.[/QUOTE]
I wish the SJW angle would be dropped, along with the term itself. It's been so overused that it's a pain to look at.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;46623724]So you're going to respond with some personal attacks rather than an actual argument, again? The fallacy of relative privation, off the top of my head, is when you act as if one problem isn't really a problem because there are bigger problems. This is far from true and is exactly what you did in your post. You implied that because there is bigger corruption issues in the AAA industry with bigger deals, that we should be worrying about that and not smaller scale instances.
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Except corruption in the AAA industry has existed since the AAA industry began but "gamergate" only showed up when feminists were tenuously tied to a vague conspiracy of nepotism. All I want is for people to be honest that gamergate is, at it's core, about opposing feminist critique of games and that whatever "ethics" issues people manage to cook up out of that are ancillary to the true character of the movement.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46623756]Yes, I absolutely want that freedom. Why aren't people protesting a bunch of naked women in classical art? Games are art, and art can be in poor taste.[/QUOTE]
name some classic art that uses nudity in poor taste and was not controversial
What i would love to know is why people get involved in this or having this arguement? This whole "gamergate" thing was retarded and if nobody would have given a flying fuck about it (like me) then all of this wouldn't have happened. But you people have to feed them of your attention and stupid arguements that are happening in this thread. Besides, people giving money to others on kickstarter and other such sites, especially to junk like what this woman was trying to make, deserve what they get. It's like those joke and other garbage games on Steam early access...
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Good luck on the highroad
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623794]All I want is for people to be honest that gamergate is, at it's core, about opposing feminist critique of games and that whatever "ethics" issues people manage to cook up out of that are ancillary to the true character of the movement.[/QUOTE]
All I want is for you to stop spewing mouth garbage about things you know nothing about and refuse to do research on.
I hope Winterman can bring that to me this year for Chrimbus.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;46623767]They're pretty much in bed with gaming journalism as a whole and gets significantly more media attention (specifically, sympathetic ears) than the opposition. Writing them off as "some cabal of tumblr teens" is really downplaying their connection with the gaming industry.[/QUOTE]
Who? Who is "pretty much in bed with gaming journalism?". The "tumblr SJW's"? Like what, all of them?
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;46623533]jesus christ you really don't read anything do you
holy shit I shouldn't be mad at words on a screen but fucking HELL[/QUOTE]
Telling people that they can't read without actually telling them what to read/look at is my favourite type of counter-argument.
And would you look at that, Christmas came early this year!
[QUOTE=Adarrek;46623804]What i would love to know is why people get involved in this or having this arguement? This whole "gamergate" thing was retarded and if nobody would have given a flying fuck about it (like me) then all of this wouldn't have happened. But you people have to feed them of your attention and stupid arguements that are happening in this thread. Besides, people giving money to others on kickstarter and other stupid sites deserve losing their money.[/QUOTE]
I'm on christmas break and I'm bored
had to remind myself that I wasnt reading an Amanda Bynes diary reading that OP
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623794]Except corruption in the AAA industry has existed since the AAA industry began but "gamergate" only showed up when feminists were tenuously tied to a vague conspiracy of nepotism. All I want is for people to be honest that gamergate is, at it's core, about opposing feminist critique of games and that whatever "ethics" issues people manage to cook up out of that are ancillary to the true character of the movement.[/QUOTE]
It's not, though. I don't give a rat's ass about the feminist aspect of gamergate - I just want to see gaming journalists act in an ethical way. You can say I'm not really a supporter of gamergate, but that's a no true scotsman argument. Yes, gamergate as a movement has underpinnings of anti-radical-feminism, I don't disagree. No, gamergate is not entirely about that. It is about ethics in gaming journalism. It is about consumers holding journalists accountable for their unethical actions.
It's unbelievable that people honestly think gamergate is about "FUCK WOMEN." If it really was, people would say that they're fighting against women in games. They'd say that is the purpose. They don't - they say it's ethics in gaming journalism, because that is (and has been) the purpose since the beginning.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;46623794]Except corruption in the AAA industry has existed since the AAA industry began but [B]"gamergate" only showed up when feminists were tenuously tied to a vague conspiracy of nepotism[/B]. All I want is for people to be honest that gamergate is, at it's core, about opposing feminist critique of games and that whatever "ethics" issues people manage to cook up out of that are ancillary to the true character of the movement.[/QUOTE]
Source? Last I checked, GamerGate showed up because a dev got caught in bed with a games journalist and people started realizing, "hey, maybe this isn't the only instance of this happening!"
At this point, I just wish #GG would be dropped forever in favor of something with the same goals, but is less of a horrible mess. You know, something more organized and focused that isn't just a hashtag that any idiot on twitter can use.
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