Facebook defends allowing beheadings footage to continue
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[QUOTE]Facebook will continue to allow users to show footage of beheadings as long as it is posted in "the right context", MPs have heard.
The social network site has been criticised for allowing such images to be shown, amid warnings they could cause psychological damage.
But Facebook's UK and Ireland policy director Simon Milner said the footage could expose human rights abuses.
There would also be "more prior warnings" on content, he added.
Facebook introduced a temporary ban on decapitation clips in May, but announced last month that it believed users should be free to watch them.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24998833[/url]
Don't allow porn or breastfeeding, but allow gruesome beheadings
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42913673][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24998833[/url]
Don't allow porn or breastfeeding, but allow gruesome beheadings[/QUOTE]
also no boobies
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/facebook-censors-boobies-birdwatching-ad_n_3867155.html[/url]
is facebook weird policy towards allowing violence, but not anything even remotely(or not all), a byproduct of the US attitudes towards sex and violence?
Someone gets brutally murdered? *Thumbs up!*
A tit slip? Report this heinous account!
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42915498]also no boobies
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/facebook-censors-boobies-birdwatching-ad_n_3867155.html[/url]
is facebook weird policy towards allowing violence, but not anything even remotely(or not all), a byproduct of the US attitudes towards sex and violence?[/QUOTE]
Don't you know that seeing nipples at an early age is far more damaging to a person's psyche than seeing a person get decapitated.
[QUOTE=Thlis;42915525]Don't you know that seeing nipples at an early age is far more damaging to a person's psyche than seeing a person get decapitated.[/QUOTE]
let the baby drink formula while watching beheadings rather than drink from a breast
Facebook is fucking stupid. A really disturbing video of some Mexican drug cartel beheading a woman cropped up on my newsfeed with a caption like "THIS IS SO SICK OH MY GOD".
I seriously think Facebook should ban gore videos, fullstop. Who the fuck wants to be sitting eating their morning cereal and drinking their orange juice only to end up witnessing videos and pictures like that?
What a weird thing to passionately defend.
[QUOTE=loopoo;42915596]Facebook is fucking stupid. A really disturbing video of some Mexican drug cartel beheading a woman cropped up on my newsfeed with a caption like "THIS IS SO SICK OH MY GOD".
I seriously think Facebook should ban gore videos, fullstop. Who the fuck wants to be sitting eating their morning cereal and drinking their orange juice only to end up witnessing videos and pictures like that?[/QUOTE]
only pussies can't handle morning cereal and morning dose of glorious gore before going to work
The zuckerberg must be pleased.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;42915616]What a weird thing to passionately defend.[/QUOTE]
Dead bodies
FB: "Freedom of speech tho!"
Naked bodies
FB: "NOOO think of the children you fools!"
Come on guys lets not lose our heads over this........
I'm sorry I couldnt not say it
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[QUOTE=loopoo;42915596]Facebook is fucking stupid. A really disturbing video of some Mexican drug cartel beheading a woman cropped up on my newsfeed with a caption like "THIS IS SO SICK OH MY GOD".
I seriously think Facebook should ban gore videos, fullstop. Who the fuck wants to be sitting eating their morning cereal and drinking their orange juice only to end up witnessing videos and pictures like that?[/QUOTE]
Don't click on them?
If allowing videos of beheadings to be shown on Facebook could "expose human rights abuses", why not throw in the whole lot? Why not allow things such as rape and child porn, then?
What an idiotic argument.
And at the same time, this happens:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX0wN5BCcAALDbW.jpg:large[/img]
And polandball comics are on the edge of being banned. Good job fuckerberg.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;42917733]And polandball comics are on the edge of being banned. Good job fuckerberg.[/QUOTE]
and polandball comics are funny?????????
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42915498]also no boobies
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/facebook-censors-boobies-birdwatching-ad_n_3867155.html[/url]
is facebook weird policy towards allowing violence, but not anything even remotely(or not all), a byproduct of the US attitudes towards sex and violence?[/QUOTE]
I think even by US standards, this doesn't make sense.
I have never seen any beheading videos on facebook before. Who the fuck still beheads people anyway?
[QUOTE=FacepunchUser;42915667]Come on guys lets not lose our heads over this........
I'm sorry I couldnt not say it
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I don't know why this guy was banned, this is probably the best post on this thread.
Beheadings and gore? Hell yeah!
People shitting into someones mouth? You bet your sweet ass thats a yes!
A female breast with exposed nipple? NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
They're defending it so you can put shocking images up to help human rights campaigns. That's not to say I can just post a random beheading video up on facebook with the description "LOL LOOK AT THIS GUYS" and expect it to be not taken down.
Although a safety filter would be nice. (So if you choose via a checkbox or whatever on your account that things flagged as beheading videos won't be shown)
[QUOTE=Usernameztaken;42917955]They're defending it so you can put shocking images up to help human rights campaigns. That's not to say I can just post a random beheading video up on facebook with the description "LOL LOOK AT THIS GUYS" and expect it to be not taken down.
Although a safety filter would be nice. (So if you choose via a checkbox or whatever on your account that things flagged as beheading videos won't be shown)[/QUOTE]
It'd be nice if they had groups or individuals who are dedicated to human rights awareness who were allowed to post gore and death if that's why such things are allowed in the first place. Keeping it all in one place would let people who want to see it see it, while keeping it away from everyone else who thinks it shouldn't be there.
It still strikes me as a weird double standard that they so adamantly defend genuinely gruesome material while banning people who post nudity. I can hardly say they're fighting against censorship but if they're doing this to raise awareness then that's better than some arbitrary rule.
this doesn't raise awareness and this isn't proper on facebook. these beheading videos are a tool to intimidate and threaten people. by spreading them around social media it gives these people who do the beheading power.
[editline]20th November 2013[/editline]
people need to stop spreading these videos around they only empower bad people.
[QUOTE=KluKluxKid;42917789]I have never seen any beheading videos on facebook before. Who the fuck still beheads people anyway?
I don't know why this guy was banned, this is probably the best post on this thread.[/QUOTE]
#SaveFacepunchUser
[editline]19th November 2013[/editline]
Perhaps I am being to broad?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42919360]this doesn't raise awareness and this isn't proper on facebook. these beheading videos are a tool to intimidate and threaten people. by spreading them around social media it gives these people who do the beheading power.
[editline]20th November 2013[/editline]
people need to stop spreading these videos around they only empower bad people.[/QUOTE]
They make people hate the guys who did it.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42919465]They make people hate the guys who did it.[/QUOTE]
and fear them.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42919478]and fear them.[/QUOTE]
Which means they're much less likely to sympathize with them and more likely to support measures against them.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42919493]Which means they're much less likely to sympathize with them and more likely to support measures against them.[/QUOTE]
"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you. And that prince who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are obtained by payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied upon; and men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."
this is generally not how it actually works out in real life.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42919534]"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you. And that prince who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are obtained by payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied upon; and men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."
this is generally not how it actually works out in real life.[/QUOTE]
Mix in a little hatred and disgust though...
Personally, I think they are really trying to make a difference in the world. These videos exist because those things have happened. It's easy to just say "that's gross it shouldn't be allowed" when it's not your father, or son who was beheaded. Imagine a direct connection between the first world populace and the shocking brutality of reality. How much future violence would be stopped if these individuals are identified and dealt with. Is it their place? Well, that's for them to decide, and apparently they think it is.
Facebook may actually be the best possible way to identify these inhuman wastes.
It's no different then posting a video of a burgler, except you can't deal with the fact that it happens so you deem it inappropriate rather then come to terms with reality and try to help stop it from happening in the first place. Just ignoring it solves nothing, and just being informed and aware of it is another push forward to eradicating it.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42919539]Mix in a little hatred and disgust though...[/QUOTE]
people are tolerant of things they hate and are disgusted with all the time. if they fear brutal punishment, then they won't act against the group perpetrating the evil.
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