• Just how effective our British Helmets are...
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Very lucky guy.
The helmet's purpose is to give the user a psychological feel of safety while saving them from debris/shrapnel and hard bumps. I don't see how you guys think that it can stop a bullet.
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;19106626]The helmet's purpose is to give the user a psychological feel of safety while saving them from debris/shrapnel and hard bumps. I don't see how you guys think that it can stop a bullet.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that helmets are proofed to stop certain bullets at certain distances. They aren't fucking construction hats.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19106908]I'm pretty sure that helmets are proofed to stop certain bullets at certain distances. They aren't fucking construction hats.[/QUOTE] Yeah they work against 9mm and alike. Nothing like sniper rounds or AK rounds. However, it does depend on the distance. AK rounds don't go very far.
Holy balls, a helmet doing it's job!? :supaburn:
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;19107175]Holy balls, a helmet doing it's job!? :supaburn:[/QUOTE] You have to be pretty goddamn lucky to stop an assault rifle round in your helmet. Helmets aren't designed to take assault rifle rounds, silly. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;19107209]It was designed to protect the head, and it did. I don't see the big deal.[/QUOTE] :colbert:
It was designed to protect the head, and it did. I don't see the big deal.
dude that happened to me in counter strike!!!!
Are you just going to post the same thing over and over Someguy?
[QUOTE=sami-pso;19107047]Yeah they work against 9mm and alike. Nothing like sniper rounds or AK rounds. However, it does depend on the distance. AK rounds don't go very far.[/QUOTE] Alot of rifle rounds lose a large amount of their energy past 100 yards, I wouldn't doubt that the majority of helmets can stop modern rifle rounds at 200 yards.
Lucky escape for the guy, Good job it didn't hit him in the eye.
[QUOTE=EdBiew;19097400]if they can't block anything then what use are they?[/QUOTE] They don't usually protect very well against 7.62x49 and 5.45x39 rounds (or other intermediate - heavy calibre rounds) which are what AK47s and AK74s fire, respectively. They'll protect from pistol rounds at varying distances, and at over the effective range of the above cartridges it'll protect against them too. [editline]10:22PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Oecleus;19108314]Alot of rifle rounds lose a large amount of their energy past 100 yards, I wouldn't doubt that the majority of helmets can stop modern rifle rounds at 200 yards.[/QUOTE] 300m is what almost every service rifle is zeroed for, and I'm pretty sure they'd be tested to make sure they're effective within that range. I'm not entirely sure about the properties of the rounds though, so I can't say whether or not you're correct
[QUOTE=Squad;19106561]So you are just going to give credit to the British? The fact that it stopped a bullet could be due to a large number of factors... basically he was lucky... there was no super engineering team, this doesn't really mean the british are the best helmet makers ever... It just means that this guy got extremely lucky. If the person who had fired been any closer it could have gone right through the helmet into his head, who knows. I am not putting the British down, I think every company who makes combat gear no matter for who, is doing a good job. But to say that it means the British are going beyond what they need to do seems unfair as if no other safety company is doing anything.[/QUOTE] Christ, calm down. You're making a big deal out of nothing here. What was I meant to say? "This just goes to show that all helmet designs are doing a better job then they were designed to do"? Of course not, because some cheap helmet designs are more there to give a feeling of security then actual protection. What about "This just goes to show that British, US, French, German, Canadian and Australian helmets are doing a better job then they were desgned to do"? No, because this specific situation only covers the British helmet and it would be pointless/stupid to praise a helmet that isn't eve being mentioned. Yeah, fine, it could have been a ricochet and yeah it isn't the sort of thing you will see on a regular basis. However, if the quality of the helmet was crap I can honestly say the guy would be dead now. Also, if only I received £1 for every time I saw an American praising something built in the US...
I know the U.S. helmets can stop a pistol round, there is a picture floating around with a guy showing it off.
[QUOTE=sami-pso;19107047]Yeah they work against 9mm and alike. Nothing like sniper rounds or AK rounds. However, it does depend on the distance. AK rounds don't go very far.[/QUOTE] Yes they do. They're just very inaccurate at distance, but that doesn't equal kinetic energy.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;19113048]Yes they do. They're just very inaccurate at distance, but that doesn't equal kinetic energy.[/QUOTE] 7.62x39 lose their energy faster than most other rifle rounds. Especiallly when you are comparing it to the 5.56x45
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;19097756]6ft is 2 meters, which is about his height. Basically he fell.[/QUOTE] If I remember correctly, he claimed it was 3 meters in the video.
If this was a ricochet, the bullet would not have been as intact as it was inside the helmet. :eng101:
If I were that guy, I wouldn't have the bullet removed or the helmet replaced. I'd wear that thing like a badge of honor, and as a bit of a luck charm.
[QUOTE=cam_93;19098648]Then why did his? suspose it could have been a ricochet.[/QUOTE] Luck.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19108314]Alot of rifle rounds lose a large amount of their energy past 100 yards, I wouldn't doubt that the majority of helmets can stop modern rifle rounds at 200 yards.[/QUOTE] Yeah, wanna try? [editline]03:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TestECull;19122178]If I were that guy, I wouldn't have the bullet removed or the helmet replaced. I'd wear that thing like a badge of honor, and as a bit of a luck charm.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't want a broken helmet even though it would bring me luck. The next time wouldn't be so lucky.
[QUOTE=jblack;19106336]It's designed to stop shrapnel/falling bricks primarily, but gives a good protection against some bullets too.[/QUOTE] I'll add this - Once you get shot, you often fall to the ground. Without a helmet, you can crack your skull easily if you hit a concrete floor or a rock.
[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;19108876]They don't usually protect very well against 7.62x49 and 5.45x39 rounds (or other intermediate - heavy calibre rounds) which are what AK47s and AK74s fire, respectively. They'll protect from pistol rounds at varying distances, and at over the effective range of the above cartridges it'll protect against them too. [editline]10:22PM[/editline] 300m is what almost every service rifle is zeroed for, and I'm pretty sure they'd be tested to make sure they're effective within that range. I'm not entirely sure about the properties of the rounds though, so I can't say whether or not you're correct[/QUOTE] They also don't protect the cranium from artillery. Fancy that, Tea. FOTM is, he survived.
[QUOTE=Sickle;19125424]They also don't protect the cranium from artillery. Fancy that, Tea. FOTM is, he survived.[/QUOTE] I doubt ANYTHING could stop a direct hit on the head from a artillery shell.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;19126984]I doubt ANYTHING could stop a direct hit on the head from a artillery shell.[/QUOTE] A bunker.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19127509]A bunker.[/QUOTE] The air pressure could rip your lungs out if it was directly above you
[QUOTE=Raiskauskone;19128349]The air pressure could rip your lungs out if it was directly above you[/QUOTE] I somewhat doubt that, bunkers are made to handle the pressure waves of incoming blasts, otherwise they would be pointless.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19128378]I somewhat doubt that, bunkers are made to handle the pressure waves of incoming blasts, otherwise they would be pointless.[/QUOTE] What I meant was a field fortification, not a concrete bunker.
So, a helmet is almost useless to carry with you. It only stops pistol bullets.
[QUOTE=Squeaken;19097612]In WW1 99% of all combat deaths were from chest wounds, Soldiers aren't trained to aim for the head as a chest shot is just as lethal and much more accurate.[/QUOTE] Most combat deaths were from blood loss from getting machine-gunned the fuck out of.
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