• Kurds low on good weapons - some using WWII British weapons while others have to steal American guns
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[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;47110117]Nothing like utilizing that good old British artillery pieces or old british rifles for that matter. There are still Lee-Enfield's and Bren guns kicking about from times long past and in a way I feel kind of happy they still do work, even after the people who built them, along with the factories and their original users have long since perished.[/QUOTE] [t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1331043553_86319-tfb1.jpeg[/t] ah yes good 'ol bren gun, most best korean of machine guns
[QUOTE=Binladen34;47110317]Didn't we airdrop the Kurds arms and munitions a few months ago?[/QUOTE] In Sinjar in Iraq. The eastern Iraqi and Iranian Kurds are different political entities from the Syrian and Turkish Kurds. Both groups are running on fumes and we only really gave enough to help out a small offensive in one part of Iraq.
Didn't Germany give them a bunch of G3s and G36s? Where are those?
Didnt syrian rebels use the old STIGs from WW2?
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;47117927]Didn't Germany give them a bunch of G3s and G36s? Where are those?[/QUOTE] They basically created their own battalion of Kurds that they armed and trained. Everyone else still uses leftover scraps or whatever they can scavenge
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;47118142]Didnt syrian rebels use the old STIGs from WW2?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/09/30/mind-blown-remote-control-sturmgewehr-44-syria/"]One of them was rigged up to act as a remote operated turret.[/URL]
What I want to know is, where the fuck do they get all the ammo from? Like is there random warehouses scattered all over the middle east that house billions of rounds of ammo or do they just mail order it from russia?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47112251]We are going about arming the Kurds in a completely backwards fashion. The Kurds have proven themselves to be incredibly good DIY'ers, and we need to take that as a lesson of what they are capable of, and open the door for them into the world of producing khyber pass firearms. Drop them some STEN/Grease Guns and other weapons that are easy to build on their own, and with the firearm/ammo crates, include several pamphlets that discuss how to manufacture said firearms, and ammo for them, with materials that can be found around Kurdistan. Not only would this be doing them a massive favor in the long run by giving them skilled artisans that can be trained in the construction of firearms and metalwork, but it'd also allow us to take a breather and get Turkey off our ass for arming the Kurds directly.[/QUOTE] How about we don't arm them with worse weapons than the ones ISIS is equipped with. If we are gonna rm them, that is.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47118862]What I want to know is, where the fuck do they get all the ammo from? Like is there random warehouses scattered all over the middle east that house billions of rounds of ammo or do they just mail order it from russia?[/QUOTE] Usually people store ammunition for their guns by their guns. Odds are when they found a weapon, they found the ammo for it nearby.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47119269]Usually people store ammunition for their guns by their guns. Odds are when they found a weapon, they found the ammo for it nearby.[/QUOTE] There will be arms dealers and smugglers there also, chances are they get a trickle of supplies from those.
hahaha, I remember standing up after a presentation by Medea Benjamin challenging her on the point that the kurds should indeed be armed to protect their interest. She said that they should not be armed as there "are already enough weapons in the region, it's saturated with guns!!!"
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;47118885]How about we don't arm them with worse weapons than the ones ISIS is equipped with. If we are gonna rm them, that is.[/QUOTE] Well that's the problem I'm seeing right now. We are probably not going to arm them, and at best we could at least try to give them advice on how to arm themselves by manufacturing their own gear. This would allow them to protect themselves without us or another country having to constantly feed them supplies.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47120175]Well that's the problem I'm seeing right now. We are probably not going to arm them, and at best we could at least try to give them advice on how to arm themselves by manufacturing their own gear. This would allow them to protect themselves without us or another country having to constantly feed them supplies.[/QUOTE] Manufacture their own gear? That would take specialised machinery and resources. Probably cheaper to buy in weapons than it would be to set up the infrastructure required.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;47120190]Manufacture their own gear? That would take specialised machinery and resources. Probably cheaper to buy in weapons than it would be to set up the infrastructure required.[/QUOTE] If they have the infrastructure set up, that'd also validate them as a sovereign nation, as they are fully capable of keeping their own army supplied. Not to mention that having said machinery would also go a long way for providing infrastructure for other things. They would gain machinery good for manufacturing weapons, providing jobs for machinist and also training for a new generation of machinist. I might just be overlooking the issue with Turkey and all, but Turkey is being a massive pain in the ass regarding arming the Kurds. Doing this gets around most of the issues.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;47120190]Manufacture their own gear? That would take specialised machinery and resources. Probably cheaper to buy in weapons than it would be to set up the infrastructure required.[/QUOTE] AK variants are pretty simple to make. If some guy in a mud hut in the Khyber Pass can build an AK from scratch, so can the Kurds.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;47121164]AK variants are pretty simple to make. If some guy in a mud hut in the Khyber Pass can build an AK from scratch, so can the Kurds.[/QUOTE] Nobody 'in a mud hut' is building an AK from scratch.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/fNcqp/2e5d37222c.jpg[/IMG] [editline]11th February 2015[/editline] I feel for the Kurds but really I see no reason to meddle in deeply foreign convoluted conflicts.
Oh yeah, in speaking of homemade weapons.. [t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/10888879_401480713344370_8728056419075318313_n.jpg[/t] The Kurds are already a step ahead of what I was saying. Congrat Kurds.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47122001]Oh yeah, in speaking of homemade weapons.. [t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/10888879_401480713344370_8728056419075318313_n.jpg[/t] The Kurds are already a step ahead of what I was saying. Congrat Kurds.[/QUOTE] Every group over there manufactures their own anti materiel rifles. It's something they are all lacking and something "easy" to make, compared to other things. Lots of neato guns guys are making. [img]http://puu.sh/fNeuv/68dfb8fb14.jpg[/img]
Is that gun's upper a part from an RPG-7..? The fuck. This clusterfuck of a conflict is making some serious Mad Max builders.
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