Protests over Charlotte Police Shooting move to Highway
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[QUOTE=Conscript;51089714][url]http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/[/url][/QUOTE]
Idk how credible Washington times is
[QUOTE=Conscript;51089714][url]http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/[/url][/QUOTE]
Yea he's just giving money to activist groups, also it's about Ferguson whereas Biowaster implied he funded the Charlotte riots.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51089692]Ah yes, the Bogeyman of the Alt-Right, and possibly the Right in general. If he didn't use his money for various (sometimes questionable) Leftist causes, he would be considered an absolute genius using Capitalism to it's highest potential to become one of the richest men on Earth.[/QUOTE]
Is this what lefty's say through their Koch Bros™ created tears? Is there a more perfect example of "when our side does it it's A-OK"?
[QUOTE=TheTalon;51085608]Starting to think that maybe white people aren't the racists[/QUOTE]
Some of them are, just the same as some of the black community are also pretty militantly racist. The problem is that the current atmosphere in America is pushing more and more people into the racist segments, which accentuates the problem and so on.
Trump has weighed in on the protests:
[quote]"If you're not aware, drugs are a very, very big factor in what you're watching on television at night," said Trump in a speech to the Shale Insight 2016 Conference in Pittsburgh today.[/quote]
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-drugs-big-factor-charlotte-protests/story?id=42282437[/url]
[QUOTE=Potus;51090854]
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-drugs-big-factor-charlotte-protests/story?id=42282437[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"We honor and recognize the right of all Americans to peacefully assemble, protest and demonstrate, but there is no right to engage in violent disruption or to threaten the public safety and peace of others." [/QUOTE]
Unless they are peaceful demonstrators at one of your speeches, right?
Could not care less with what any politician has to say. They're powerless and out of touch. Lip service all round
[QUOTE=redBadger;51089577]I'm starting to wonder is this a fight on racism or on police? Because the officer was [B]black[/B][/QUOTE]If there truly is an honest bias against black people in society then BLM is actively fueling it at this point because yeah, it basically is a series of riots against police and rule of law. I truly feel bad for the people who think it's all about bringing forth positive change because their movement has turned to sour shit while they're waist-deep in it, it's ironic how the forces they're against are holding up the "END RACISM NOW" banner along with them.
Every bit of escalation on the part of BLM makes the Stormfronters happy, they couldn't have done a better job setting back the civil rights movement no matter how hard they tried.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;51090562]Is this what lefty's say through their Koch Bros™ created tears? Is there a more perfect example of "when our side does it it's A-OK"?[/QUOTE]How about you get a clue: the Koch brothers and Soros are quite literally the same for their respective side on the left/right dichotomy. People bitch and moan about one or the other because, gasp! they have money and do things with it! You know, like all these other rich philanthropists who have a political agenda but because they happen to be the richest they get all the attention.
Oh, and he never actually said Soros using his pocketbook to bring about political change was "A-OK" or not, he just said if the shoe was on the other foot the conspiracy loons wouldn't care.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51090874]Unless they are peaceful demonstrators at one of your speeches, right?[/QUOTE]
Private venue vs public space, sure it's hypocritical but it's standard protocol for politicians.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;51090915]Private venue vs public space, sure it's hypocritical but it's standard protocol for politicians.[/QUOTE]
I'm not even talking about him kicking people out though so much as referring to the time he said he would "pay the legal fees" if someone "knocked the crap" out of a protester.
The fucking media has to stop making everything a race issue.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;51090913]
How about you get a clue: the Koch brothers and Soros are quite literally the same for their respective side on the left/right dichotomy. People bitch and moan about one or the other because, gasp! they have money and do things with it! You know, like all these other rich philanthropists who have a political agenda but because they happen to be the richest they get all the attention.
Oh, and he never actually said Soros using his pocketbook to bring about political change was "A-OK" or not, he just said if the shoe was on the other foot the conspiracy loons wouldn't care.[/QUOTE]
Chill out mate. The second part wasn't aimed at Mr. Someguy, apologies to him if it came across that way, but more the general attitude around Soros where criticism is quickly defended against as unfair attacks ("bogeymen") from the right when the left is all too glad to condemn the same tactics when the other side engages in them. It's the lack of consistency, and yes conspiracy theorists fall to the same criticism when they gladly support bad actors that align with their ideals for the time being. I get why people shy away from it but the question of "this guy [B]aligns with me[/B] now but how long before I end up [B]aligning with him [/B]to support my side?" needs to be asked more.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51090929]I'm not even talking about him kicking people out though so much as referring to the time he said he would "pay the legal fees" if someone "knocked the crap" out of a protester.[/QUOTE]
That was indefensible, after that incident he really should have had a voice in his ear to get him back on track because that moment showed that when he gets distracted he tends to fuck up badly.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;51091104]Chill out mate. The second part wasn't aimed at Mr. Someguy, apologies to him if it came across that way, but more the general attitude around Soros where criticism is quickly defended against as unfair attacks ("bogeymen") from the right when the left is all too glad to condemn the same tactics when the other side engages in them.[/QUOTE]If you can't stand getting burned then don't fool around with fire, you opened up being snarky and I responded in kind. As for the second part not being directed at Mr. Someguy I don't quite see how we were expected to know this. You would have been better off explaining this in your initial post:
[QUOTE]It's the lack of consistency, and yes conspiracy theorists fall to the same criticism when they gladly support bad actors that align with their ideals for the time being. I get why people shy away from it but the question of "this guy [B]aligns with me[/B] now but how long before I end up [B]aligning with him [/B]to support my side?" needs to be asked more.[/QUOTE]Being an independent voter I ask that quite often and yes, I do agree with what you're saying here. Aside from that though even if people were to ask this question the fact remains that most Americans are simply too lazy to vote, you could make a case for the poor and disenfranchised not being able to but they're not the majority. Asking these questions, researching, and then coming up with independent conclusions only really matter if people are willing to act accordingly.
Night 3 is kicking off now.
Guard in place. Right now it's just peaceful BLM protests.
The people which go around doing shit, and then back off when the nasty girls are deployed are fucking cowards. I'm hopeful that one of these days the governors in the states where this shit is occurring just silently deploys the National Guard, and rounds up everyone involved and puts them in prison for whatever felonies they are committing at that moment in time.
[QUOTE=redBadger;51089577]I'm starting to wonder is this a fight on racism or on police? Because the officer was [B]black[/B][/QUOTE]
It's a fight on systemic racism - racism codified in systems (like law enforcement, the justice system, etc), not at all about individual racism. The fight is against the [i]policies[/i] (or lack thereof) that lead to events where people are killed unnecessarily, not against racist white cops. They're not trying to weed out the KKK cops out to lynch blacks for fun (because there probably aren't many at all), they're trying to change how police operate to have a greater regard for the safety of the people they've pledged to protect and serve. Doing this helps them gain back the respect of the community and repairs their reputation in damaged, impoverished, violent communities.
On the larger scale, beyond BLM, when it comes to police violence, it doesn't matter whether the victim or the officer is black or white or asian or hispanic, it matters that the systems put in place for law enforcement lead to inadequate training and (clearly) focus far too little on police risk assessment. BLM focuses on the racial aspect, which is one of many aspects the police are being criticized for, but there are loads of other aspects that are inter-related when it comes to police.
It is a fight on police [i]policies and training[/i]. Race is one section of it. I'm as pissed off about Bryce Masters as I am about any other police use of excessive force. I want our police to be [i]respected[/i], and you do that by improving their training, salaries, and holding them accountable when they fuck up and kill innocent people - it's that simple.
The male that was shot last night, declared dead, then declared in critical condition on life support has officially died and police have opened a homicide investigation.
[QUOTE=matt000024;51091100]The fucking media has to stop making everything a race issue.[/QUOTE]but you gotta get them extra clicks, that's obviously more important
[QUOTE=-nesto-;51091417]Night 3 is kicking off now.
Guard in place. Right now it's just peaceful BLM protests.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know those were possible.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;51088773]This stands out for me because it's hilarious.
Look buddy, if you want to kick off a race war and have a black revolution that's fine. Good fucking luck though because the stereotype that gun owners are straight [U]white[/U] males does have a kernel of truth to it and relying on your manly, manly muscles to fight men with """assault rifles""" is going to work out [I]great.[/I] Just like it did for the Boxers, go read up about them.
Meanwhile I'm building an AR in .458 SOCOM [I]just in case.[/I][/QUOTE]
i've said it before and i will continue to say it: those who are calling for increased violence are not prepared at all for what they are asking for
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51088179]I'll be fine, you can go find my pictures on the bodybuilding thread in the general discussion subforum[/QUOTE]
Body building doesnt stop bullets.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;51091484]It's a fight on systemic racism[/QUOTE]
[video]https://twitter.com/WCCBCharlotte/status/778788105469960192[/video]
[video]https://twitter.com/LibertarianQn/status/778845840496594944[/video]
keep fightin the [I]good[/I] fight
[QUOTE=-nesto-;51091488]The male that was shot last night, declared dead, then declared in critical condition on life support has officially died and police have opened a homicide investigation.[/QUOTE]
The funniest part is that he wasn't even shot by the police.
Also as soon as he was shot the retarded rioters were screaming "Call 911!" and piling on his unconscious body (because that's the most effective CPR technique ever) when the responders were already right fucking there. These people are fucking mongs.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;51091745][video]https://twitter.com/WCCBCharlotte/status/778788105469960192[/video]
[video]https://twitter.com/LibertarianQn/status/778845840496594944[/video]
keep fightin the [I]good[/I] fight[/QUOTE]
No mistake - I have [i]zero[/i] respect for people using violence and I think it's 100% inexcusable. I've consistently been very critical of the fucking idiots using police issues as an excuse to go out and beat and injure others.
My intention wasn't to excuse the violence of the rioters. I was pointing out the reason why "but the cop is [I]black[/I]" doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of the fight for police reform - both from the perspective of reform efforts from inside BLM and from other groups.
Fuck these people for turning a fight against institutional racism into an excuse to commit acts of individually racist violence. Absolutely inexcusable - and they should be arrested and charged for [i]breaking the law[/i] just like anyone else.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51087951]
Violence is the only political choice left for black people who feel so powerless in the system that keeps them in the ghettos.
the system
the system
[/QUOTE]
Can someone elaborate on this buzzword? Because it seems like a buzzword. What "system" is in place to keep any individual, black or not, from working hard and making a successful life for themselves?
Is it the system run by Barack Obama?
Why do you ignore all the successes of self made African-Americans? Show me how an African-American is not privy to all the opportunities afforded to everyone else?
The system meaning law enforcement, courts, and corrections
Curfew starts in about 1h20m
Protesters have now turned violent
[QUOTE=-nesto-;51091745][video]https://twitter.com/WCCBCharlotte/status/778788105469960192[/video]
[video]https://twitter.com/LibertarianQn/status/778845840496594944[/video]
keep fightin the [I]good[/I] fight[/QUOTE]
I'm so fucking sick of this shit. Just because a few do something bad doesn't mean everyone does or supports it. There are many, many BLM protests out there that are actually quite peaceful believe it or not. Of course you'd never know that with media never reporting positive things since negatives get more clicks.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;51092173]Curfew starts in about 1h20m
Protesters have now turned violent[/QUOTE]
It's like they are on a schedule.
Last night they fucking lost it at around the same hour. Why are these pricks so volatile?
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;51092207]I'm so fucking sick of this shit. Just because a few do something bad doesn't mean everyone does or supports it. There are many, many BLM protests out there that are actually quite peaceful believe it or not. [B]Of course you'd never know that with media never reporting positive things since negatives get more clicks[/B].[/QUOTE]
You say this but hasn't it been shown numerous times that the media has been overly generous with BLM?
What with things like editing out parts of interviews that outright call for rioting and looting?
I think your statement is better suited to when people post negative things about the police.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP edit]I'm so fucking sick of this shit. Just because a few do something bad doesn't mean everyone does or supports it. There are many, many officers out there that are actually quite peaceful believe it or not. Of course you'd never know that with media never reporting positive things since negatives get more clicks.[/QUOTE]
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