Denmark ejects foreign student for doing too much part-time work - Marius Youbi, described as ‘the b
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This sounds like something I'd expect out of Sweden. A law to limit how much you work, let alone punishing legal immigrants/foreign students for working more then legally allowed?
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49496143]This sounds like something I'd expect out of Sweden. A law to limit how much you work, let alone punishing legal immigrants/foreign students for working more then legally allowed?[/QUOTE]
Its strange. At the same time Sweden has politicians saying that immigrants or "the one named Muhammed" should get preferencial treatment.
You guys are so out of the loop is almost embarrasing to read some of the shit you write about Sweden and Denmark.
I'd expect comments like this from people who follow Trump, not from you guys. It's like you watched one segment on Fox News or some shit about our politics.
[QUOTE=Warborq;49496441]You guys are so out of the loop is almost embarrasing to read some of the shit you write about Sweden and Denmark.
I'd expect comments like this from people who follow Trump, not from you guys. It's like you watched one segment on Fox News or some shit about our politics.[/QUOTE]
I vouche this man. It's more than people think.
this is what i dont understand about laws and magistrates who enforce these on a black-and-white ruling vs a case-by-case analysis
this guy was, for all intents and purposes, a danish citizen(and probably more danish than some native danes). what an absolutely fucking joke of a law.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49496143]This sounds like something I'd expect out of Sweden. A law to limit how much you work, let alone punishing legal immigrants/foreign students for working more then legally allowed?[/QUOTE]
You do know that USA has the exact same laws right? And Sweden doesn't.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;49494352]I can't say how it is in Denmark, but here in the UK work limits are primarily there to prevent people from gaining an international student visa and then using it to work instead.[/QUOTE]
In which case it should be pretty clear cut and dry that he was not only in classes, but excelling at them. Nobody with an ounce of sense or decency would rule this way given the information provided, particularly because he apparently only went over by a bit (which is pretty normal in anything related within 5 degrees of retail), vs working 40 hours a week.
One of the biggest privileges of being a judge is the privilege of having the power to exercise a degree of discretion.
Look, the rules are fucking ridiculous and need to be changed, and I'm sorry to see that this guys life is pretty much in shambles because of it... But come on, considering that he is supposed to be a genius, adding the fact he has been here for years, one would think that he was aware of the rules regarding this stuff and previously had no problems living by them.
As stupid as the rules are, it's also kinda stupid to be that close to getting your education and then deciding to fuck around with a law that you know will mess your shit up. But hey, his example might be what it takes to change things around.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;49498922]Germany has too, Ill be subject to those laws when I go there to study, in a week hopefully.
It is bad for me, but understandable. BUT, education in Germany is free, in Denmark it isnt. If you charge someone 400000 kroner for education let him fucking work and pay??[/QUOTE]
Actually, education is free, just not for foreigners... and even then, as far as I'm aware, for EU peeps atleast, it's heavily subsidized.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49493902]Europes system is warped. [B]They punish you for working hard and contributing to society. [/B][/QUOTE]
Europe doesn't do this, in Australia you can face deportation for working over 25+ hours on a student visa but many workplaces cover it up by faking hours and increasing the payrate dramatically
[quote]Denmark has expelled a top foreign undergraduate because he worked for 90 minutes more than the 15 hours a week the law allows overseas students to spend doing a part-time job.[/quote]
Why do we even have this law in the first place? Who does it protect, what good does it bring?
Someone previously stated that it's to prevent people coming into the country to work via exploiting a student visa, instead of obtaining a workers visa.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49512649]Someone previously stated that it's to prevent people coming into the country to work via exploiting a student visa, instead of obtaining a workers visa.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't requiring a certain number of school units be a MUCH easier and more straightforward way to do this?
It should be enforced on a case by case basis. I assume the low number of hours per week is to give students plenty of time for, you know, school/study. To increase hours workable based on credits taken is counterintuitive because it increases the time obligation of both, causing them to be conflicting.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49512888]It should be enforced on a case by case basis. I assume the low number of hours per week is to give students plenty of time for, you know, school/study. To increase hours workable based on credits taken is counterintuitive because it increases the time obligation of both, causing them to be conflicting.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying just have a minimum credit level and GPA be maintained, that's it. If they're taking and passing classes, then it shouldn't matter if they want to work as well. It's their time. If they're able to work while in school, then more power to them.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;49498922]Germany has too, Ill be subject to those laws when I go there to study, in a week hopefully.
It is bad for me, but understandable. BUT, education in Germany is free, in Denmark it isnt. If you charge someone 400000 kroner for education let him fucking work and pay??[/QUOTE]
It still could use some fixing here.
I think it's completely fine and sensible to prioritise citizens, but while e.g. a job is open, follows all regulations, and there's no German/EEA citizen available for the position then let someone else do it as much as they want as far as health protection laws go (with a minimum placement duration, so they aren't constantly replaced after three days on the job). Disconnecting potential employees and potential employment like this with no alternative is something that to me looks like a bad idea no matter what kind of politics you subscribe to.
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