[QUOTE=faze;31230380]Yeah, honestly, the people that say "God hates fags" and things like it, (for those that are religious) God doesn't hate, period. He also looks down on hate and intolerance.[/QUOTE]
If God doesn't hate and he's a God of love as they say, then why does he cast his own people into hell to choke, cry, scream, suffer in the most agonizing way possible for all of eternity? I know this isn't a religion thread but I just have to ask.
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31245255]If God doesn't hate and he's a God of love as they say, then why does he cast his own people into hell to choke, cry, scream, suffer in the most agonizing way possible for all of eternity? I know this isn't a religion thread but I just have to ask.[/QUOTE]
Because they were gay
Considering in the Old Testament you could be stoned to death for talking back to your parents, why not go all out and be gay as well? In for a penny and all that...
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31245255]If God doesn't hate and he's a God of love as they say, then why does he cast his own people into hell to choke, cry, scream, suffer in the most agonizing way possible for all of eternity? I know this isn't a religion thread but I just have to ask.[/QUOTE]Because they denied God, so he denied them. He is also vengeful.
It starts out simple enough, let the gays marry, then they STEAL OUR JOBS and RAPE OUR CHILDREN
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WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN
[QUOTE=Spycrabz;31246628]It starts out simple enough, let the gays marry, then they STEAL OUR JOBS and RAPE OUR CHILDREN
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WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN[/QUOTE]"BUT THEMZ FAGGOTZ IS KILLIN OUR CHILDRENZ!!!"
[QUOTE=Spycrabz;31246628]It starts out simple enough, let the gays marry, then they STEAL OUR JOBS and RAPE OUR CHILDREN
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And come into our houses at night and wreck up the place! AROOO!
[QUOTE=dumbfox;31246804]And come into our houses at night and wreck up the place! AROOO![/QUOTE]
[img]http://jasonrosenbaum.typepad.com/.a/6a01053629ad41970c0120a775e74b970b-320pi[/img]
[QUOTE=faze;31246596]Because they denied God, so he denied them. He is also vengeful.[/QUOTE]
But having vengeance would make him humanlike, therefore imperfect. So he's not good or morally perfect. So why should he be called God?
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31247812]But having vengeance would make him humanlike. So he's not good.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with being humanlike. We were created in his image, right?
[QUOTE=faze;31247834]Nothing wrong with being humanlike. We were created in his image, right?[/QUOTE]
Read my edited post. My point is, he's not a morally perfect god if he has vengeance on people and condemns them to a place of eternal suffering beyond anyone's worst nightmares, simply for not believing in him. That's a horrible thing, so therefore he's a pretty messed up guy in my eyes.
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31247959]Read my edited post. My point is, he's not a morally perfect god if he has vengeance on people and condemns them to a place of eternal suffering beyond anyone's worst nightmares, simply for not believing in him. That's a horrible thing, so therefore he's a pretty messed up guy in my eyes.[/QUOTE]Human morals? Those suck. Who are we to judge what's right and wrong in those respects? Not our place. If you deny him, he denies you. Plain and simple.
[QUOTE=faze;31247977]Human morals? Those suck. Who are we to judge what's right and wrong in those respects? Not our place. If you deny him, he denies you. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
Human morals.. those suck huh? You're right, God's are better... let's send all these faggots, heathens, and non-believers to hell where they belong! Amen! Praise Jesus!
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31248012]Human morals.. those suck huh? You're right, God's are better... let's send all these faggots, heathens, and non-believers to hell where they belong! Amen! Praise Jesus![/QUOTE]Yeah well I'm for gay marriage. Agree to disagree.
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31247959]Read my edited post. My point is, he's not a morally perfect god if he has vengeance on people and condemns them to a place of eternal suffering beyond anyone's worst nightmares, simply for not believing in him. That's a horrible thing, so therefore he's a pretty messed up guy in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
Aha but god has some sort of magic master plan, and everything he does fits into this magic master plan (including raping children), and because its god who came up with this magic master plan its not our place to question it DUH
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[QUOTE=faze;31248042]Yeah well I'm for gay marriage. Agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]
..you are awful at getting post sarcasm :v:
I hope that was sarcasm at least :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Icedshot;31248067]
..you are awful at getting post sarcasm :v:
I hope that was sarcasm at least :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
It was, don't worry.
[QUOTE=Icedshot;31248067]Aha but god has some sort of magic master plan, and everything he does fits into this magic master plan (including raping children), and because its god who came up with this magic master plan its not our place to question it DUH
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..you are awful at getting post sarcasm :v:
I hope that was sarcasm at least :ohdear:[/QUOTE]Lol raping children? I presume you are talking about Catholic priests...
[QUOTE=faze;31236390]Don't tell me you still believe that shit... I was born straight, just like gays were born gay.[/QUOTE]
I was born straight, and one day I decided to be bi.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31231595]"The federal government has no business saying the federal government has no business in marriage! Where in the constitution does it say they don't? This is unconstitutional!"
you don't have to post now glaber[/QUOTE]
"Look, FOX says so, it's true!"
I also find it funny when people say that gays will ruin everything.
Uh hey U.S? Us canadians sort of legalized gay marriage a while ago, and I don't think it's had any effect here. In fact, our economy is doing better than yours.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;31249663]I was born straight, and one day I decided to be bi.[/QUOTE]No, one day you figured out you like guys too. It's not a decision.
Well, anti-gay straight guys, look positively.
If gays can marry and have rights and wont be discriminated, the less they hide and couple up with eachother.That means you just lost a lot of competition on those hot girls they've been hogging trying to hide they'r true feelings.
My opinion on the matter is: "Meh, whatever, I dont have do watch them and hopefully they wont be all over me and my family.
And I think Obama is doing quite fine job, every president has it's positives and minuses, so does Obama. Kinda dissapointed in the war issue, but health care, taxes and that sort of stuff, I am quite happy for America for having him.
My opinion is let people marry who they want. I thought this country was founded on tolerance?
[QUOTE=faze;31249997]No, one day you figured out you like guys too. It's not a decision.[/QUOTE][img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=225659&dateline=1287227703[/img]
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31247959]Read my edited post. My point is, he's not a morally perfect god if he has vengeance on people and condemns them to a place of eternal suffering beyond anyone's worst nightmares, simply for not believing in him. That's a horrible thing, so therefore he's a pretty messed up guy in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
This is why many people don't believe in hell.
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[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;31248012]Human morals.. those suck huh? You're right, God's are better... let's send all these faggots, heathens, and non-believers to hell where they belong! Amen! Praise Jesus![/QUOTE]
I think that if there is a God, than he loves everyone and some book written thousands of years ago doesn't necessarily dictate the actions of an all powerful entity.
[QUOTE=faze;31250485]My opinion is let people marry who they want. I thought this country was founded on tolerance?[/QUOTE]
Quite the opposite i'd argue, killing the natives first.
Anyone who votes no on this needs to give a handgun a blowjob.
[QUOTE=lavacano;31273773]Anyone who votes no on this needs to give a handgun a blowjob.[/QUOTE]After being on the receiving end of anal sex with it.
[QUOTE=Roanapur;31239946]I have to say this rather surprises me, Obama hasn't exactly been very friendly to the whole idea, wishy washy is the best I can say. But if he is going to get behind this and push I'm all for it.
Not that I think it will get anyway, the GOP can filibuster out of "moral principle" or some nonsense and advances in civil rights won't happen.[/QUOTE]
Obama was wishy-washy on gay marriage because he was pandering to both liberals and conservatives, especially during the election. Personally, I'm a little disappointed he hasn't openly taken a solid stance on it until now, but I guess it's better late than never.
i think we're forgetting about states' rights here.
[QUOTE=semite;31279541]i think we're forgetting about states' rights here.[/QUOTE]
Legalizing gay marriage on a federal level will not jeopardize states' rights. Not legalizing gay marriage, however, will jeopardize civil rights.
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