• [BREAKING] Its happening. Grand jury has made a decision about Ferguson.
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[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;46569700]Irish Folks at the hands of the British and Americans during immigration. Different Serbs at the hands of the Soviets. Jewish People. Christan people in some cases. Europeans towards one another over history. (English and French slinging derogitories anyone?)[/QUOTE] lol i love it when whites bring up the discrimination of the irish
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46569684]There are people who protest and people who riot The people who protest are making all the fucked up shit that the ferguson police pulled against the black community about race and they're right in doing so.[/QUOTE] Perfectly good point. Protest. Discuss. Talk! Try to get the officer to lose his job. Sue the Police Force of Ferguson. Push for reform. Try to get the case reopened. If they're displeased with the outcome they should try and get the truth out! Don't trash the fucking town. That doen't help.
i wonder how many people get their CV's instantly discarded because their name is irish sounding as opposed to if their name is black sounding?
[QUOTE=fudge blood;46569699]I've already contributed enough. There's no one here now but sensitive guys who want to make this about race now apparently, so common sense is dying in the thread.[/QUOTE] so do you have any valid counter to this entire ordeal being about race besides "you use tumblr" or "no its not" or what? because if you want to construct a situation where only your argument is true, go ahead, because the adults are going to be over here chilling out.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46569686][B]mike brown got killed even though he begged for mercy. he was jay walking[/B] james eagan holmes killed 12 people in a movie theater and managed to come out without a scratch on him when he was subdued by the cops[/QUOTE] All of this here was proven to be UNTRUE by the Jury. Again, Jury of peers was presented evidence and found that the officer was NOT GUILTY. Spreading heresay when you don't actually know for yourself is incredibly immature and just violence-mongering.
oh yeah pvt martin, we should have phrased that question a bit better: when in history, preferably US because that's what this thread's about mostly, have a large group of people been killed/oppressed/whatever based on their [I]skin color alone[/I], not culture or religion?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46569723]lol i love it when whites bring up the discrimination of the irish[/QUOTE] I don't and I'm white. Why are you putting all of us together like we're all racist scum that should pay for some of our ancestors' mistakes?
[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;46569746]All of this here was proven to be UNTRUE by the Jury. Again, Jury of peers was presented evidence and found that the officer was NOT GUILTY. Spreading heresay when you don't actually know for yourself is incredibly immature and just violence-mongering.[/QUOTE] how many juries of peers have sentenced black males to life in prison only for these same black males to be proven innocent through DNA testing? how can we constantly say 'oh well the LAW said it wasn't racism so it's not' when it's been proven time and time again that the american justice system is incredbily biased against blacks and has been for the past as long as there has been an american justice system?
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46569737]so do you have any valid counter to this entire ordeal being about race besides "you use tumblr" or "no its not" or what? because if you want to construct a situation where only your argument is true, go ahead, because the adults are going to be over here chilling out.[/QUOTE] chilling out, more like complaining about white supremacy right. I'm already done talking about the situation, I've said my shit, I've defended tons of people involved in the incident, I've felt bad for the Brown family, but a cop's gotta do their job and I can't blame him for it.
[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;46569746]All of this here was proven to be UNTRUE by the Jury. Again, Jury of peers was presented evidence and found that the officer was NOT GUILTY. Spreading heresay when you don't actually know for yourself is incredibly immature and just violence-mongering.[/QUOTE] No, the jurors were all racist whites. It was falsely proven untrue due to bias against blacks. They were paid off by the court. Obama is to blame for this racist hell Ferguson is stuck in. :suicide:
[QUOTE=Robman8908;46569751]I don't and I'm white. Why are you putting all of us together like we're all racist scum that should pay for some of our ancestors' mistakes?[/QUOTE] i'm white and 'irish' (by which i mean i had irish ancestors a couple hundred years ago) i have NEVER faced any form of racial discrimination, just like every 'irish' person in america has never faced any form of racism. it's the stupidest comparison there has ever been
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46569753]how many juries of peers have sentenced black males to life in prison only for these same black males to be proven innocent through DNA testing? how can we constantly say 'oh well the LAW said it wasn't racism so it's not' when it's been proven time and time again that the american justice system is incredbily biased against blacks and has been for the past as long as there has been an american justice system?[/QUOTE] bro i think this one's different because they got ROBOTS to be on this jury, ones that, unlike humans, cannot have their opinions potentially altered by biases, misinformation, or general human behavior. after all, jury decisions are 100% factual, and if you disagree you're arguing with FACTS. (nah)
[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;46569731]Perfectly good point. Protest. Discuss. Talk! Try to get the officer to lose his job. Sue the Police Force of Ferguson. Push for reform. Try to get the case reopened. If they're displeased with the outcome they should try and get the truth out! Don't trash the fucking town. That doen't help.[/QUOTE] They're trashing the the town because they can't bring any of that to the table or they're tired of doing it peacefully. If you watched the live stream you could tell that people had their mind set to "America is a police state" due to the same shit happening over and over again without much changing. Ferguson problems were around for quite a while (2009 or earlier) and nothing has really changed.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46569737]so do you have any valid counter to this entire ordeal being about race besides "you use tumblr" or "no its not" or what? because if you want to construct a situation where only your argument is true, go ahead, because the adults are going to be over here chilling out.[/QUOTE] disliking tumblr is part of the FP hivemind process and he can't support his argument so he's calling everybody who disagrees with him sensitive and bailing out
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46569753]how many juries of peers have sentenced black males to life in prison only for these same black males to be proven innocent through DNA testing? how can we constantly say 'oh well the LAW said it wasn't racism so it's not' when it's been proven time and time again that the american justice system is incredbily biased against blacks and has been for the past as long as there has been an american justice system?[/QUOTE] This can be considered a good argument for sure, but the problem is is that you can't assume that they're wrong just because there have been cases of it in the past. Evidence was collected. A consensus was found. If more actual concrete evidence comes up that somehow proves that Mike was innocent, that's fine. Justice wins out. But as it stands: with the solid, concrete and reliable evidence we have, the Jury found that the officer was not guilty. That is all there is to it.
[QUOTE=fudge blood;46569754]chilling out, more like complaining about white supremacy right. I'm already done talking about the situation, I've said my shit, I've defended tons of people involved in the incident, I've felt bad for the Brown family, but a cop's gotta do their job and I can't blame him for it.[/QUOTE] if you're done and got nothing else to say you should just peace out instead of making tumblr jokes.
Anyone who disagrees with me = faggot who uses tumblr
[QUOTE=Robman8908;46569323]To be honest, I don't. For some reason, I love to watch the world burn.[/QUOTE] Not like this.
I don't think that cops are racist for arresting more black people than whites. Now don't just stop reading and rate me dumb and report me before hearing me out. I don't think being black means they are more naturally prone to break the law. But it's rather how they have been brought up, poverty is much more common in the african american community than it is in white communities (probably due to racism). It's not uncommon that children are brought up to become gangsters in the hood because of how their parents are, how the people on their street are and such. It's not because of their dark skin, but rather a direct result from how they have been brought up. They are born in an environment of violence, prostitutes and drugs. We are all shaped by how we were brought up, and if you're brought up surrounded by negative elements, you're going to take those with you, and in worst case breaking the law is something that becomes a part of your daily routine because your father and mother, their friends and your friends parents do it. It's a dark circle (no pun intended) which is born from poverty because for some, dealing drugs and robbing people is the only way to get food on the table. So the reason why i think the police aren't racist for arresting more blacks than whites, is because it isn't about being black or white, it's because poor people more often take to breaking the law to survive, and african americans are generally poorer than white people, probably due to racism. That's why we see this pattern.
Guys, let's incinerate cars and pilfer legitimate outlets of commerce because a thug was killed for resisting arrest. Poor uneducated rubes. They just can't accept that the truth belies their fantasy narrative--one generated by unreliable witnesses close to Michael Brown. Of course, all the race hustlers are coming to town to incite even further controversy. When we decide to divest ourselves of the meaningless, arbitrary designations that comprise race and ethnicity, then we can truly be on the path to harmony.
[QUOTE=Xonax;46568578]I am hearing that stuff is going down, I would read the 25 pages (I read Page 1) but I am busy. So could someone go into detail from the start to present?[/QUOTE] Anyone? Some people did but it wasn't much info.
[QUOTE=Banned?;46569798]Not like this.[/QUOTE] Gotta change your title, man. Your idea of watching the world burn has gotta be pretty weak if this is too much for you lol.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46569764]bro i think this one's different because they got ROBOTS to be on this jury, ones that, unlike humans, cannot have their opinions potentially altered by biases, misinformation, or general human behavior. after all, jury decisions are 100% factual, and if you disagree you're arguing with FACTS. (nah)[/QUOTE] Again, you weren't there, you don't know for sure. None of us do. Evidence was collected. A lot of it! A jury was formed, they looked at the evidence, and after MUCH discussion, they all came to the consensus that the officer was NOT GUILTY. They could be wrong, they could not. But as it stands, they found that the evidence we have points to the officer being not guilty.
It wasn't a trial to find out if he was guilty or not, it was a trial to see whether there should be charges brought against him (To which there would be an actual trial, probably 2 years later) And the evidence showed that it was a justified shooting
[QUOTE=Robman8908;46569813]Gotta change your title, man. Your idea of watching the world burn has gotta be pretty weak if this is too much for you lol.[/QUOTE] I like laughing at people getting mad at insignificant shit. This is real life.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46569829]It wasn't a trial to find out if he was guilty or not, it was a trial to see whether there should be charges brought against him (To which there would be an actual trial, probably 2 years later)[/QUOTE] Ah yes, I didn't even realize. My points still stand. Due to the evidence it was determined that there were no reasonable causes to bring charges against him.
I don't think the police is supposed to arrest 50/50 white and black people. I'm quite confident they arrest criminals - if crime happens to be more prevalent in the black communities of Ferguson, that sucks, but it's about punishing criminals, not about maintaining some made-up balance that will make people with certain political views feel good.
The ones who trash the town most likely only partake for exactly that, trashing the town. They probably don't really care for the case anyways and just want to loot.
[QUOTE=Lord Exor;46569807]Guys, let's incinerate cars and pilfer legitimate outlets of commerce because a thug was killed for resisting arrest. [B]Poor uneducated rubes.[/B] They just can't accept that the truth belies their fantasy narrative--one generated by unreliable witnesses close to Michael Brown. Of course, all the race hustlers are coming to town to incite even further controversy. [B]When we decide to divest ourselves of the meaningless, arbitrary designations that comprise race and ethnicity, then we can truly be on the path to harmony.[/B][/QUOTE] First you contradict yourself and let me ask you this WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY ARE UNEDUCATED DID YOU TAKE TIME TO MAYBE THINK THAT SHIT OUT YOU FUCKING IDIOT REPRESENTATION OF A BLATANT RACIST FUCK YOU DUDE. FUCK YOU SINCERELY.
[video=youtube;GO1SKC6dK7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO1SKC6dK7o#t=62[/video] this is a peaceful assembly. watch it before it's taken down.
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