[BREAKING] Its happening. Grand jury has made a decision about Ferguson.
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[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;46572832]I think you really need to read up on the black panthers, for every step of good they have done they do like 15 back. They are/were pretty fucking violent but more modern than KKK. They started off with far better intentions back when it was first formed and had better people but over time it has turned into pretty fucking awful group. I mean its been pretty shit for like 30 years now.
The KKK doesnt do shit anymore, the Black Panthers still do. KKK is way worse considering history but in 2014 BP are more threatening. I think two were just arrested the other day by the FBI for having a pipebomb.[/QUOTE]
The New Black Panthers is literally not The Black Panthers, it's a different group that is actually condemned by the original Black Panther Party. They essentially stole the name. The Black Panther Party hasn't existed for over 30 years. The KKK are worse than the Black Panther Party. Do not let the TBPP's name be tainted by TNBPP.
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[QUOTE=mikeyt493;46572862]The New Black Panthers is literally not The Black Panthers, it's a different group that is actually condemned by the original Black Panther Party. They essentially stole the name. The Black Panther Party hasn't existed for over 30 years. The KKK are worse than the Black Panther Party.[/QUOTE]
Alright yeah my mistake, I forgot the new group had New in it. Yeah the NEW black panthers are worse than modern day KKK and they are the active ones. Original not shit Black Panthers were not worse.
[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;46572648]Looking on social media at the moment, it's very easy to see why people think that way.
Hell, most of my tumblr is taken up with "Avenge Michael Brown" or "Down with the police" or hilariously "This is a revolution."[/QUOTE]
my tumblr is full of wanted justice, and my facebook is full of people I didn't realize were racist assholes taking the opportunity to post an endless stream of shit comments like the court announced blacks weren't people anymore
granted it's usually like this but it's pretty loud today
New stream?
someone has leaked the kkk imperial wizard's debit/credit card info and it was just shoved into my face on tumblr. as insane as he is for threatening to hurt people at ferguson, committing credit card fraud isn't smart either
Glad to see the justice system still works.
The grand jury decided that the evidence against Wilson was not proficient enough to officially charge him with a crime: not that the black community has just been imagining the decades of institutionalized racism that has kept them segregated to areas of deep urban poverty. Attempting to propose that this proves that black people are just being pointlessly uppity would be a shameful and disturbing leap of judgment.
Vice footage from yesterday before the protest shows an insightful side of it.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb54yxdWfEY[/media]
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46573126]The grand jury decided that the evidence against Wilson was not proficient enough to officially charge him with a crime: not that the black community has just been imagining the decades of institutionalized racism that has kept them segregated to areas of deep urban poverty. Attempting to propose that this proves that black people are just being pointlessly uppity would be a shameful and disturbing leap of judgment.[/QUOTE]
so the correct solution is wanton property damage and general anarchy, gotcha
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573161]so the correct solution is wanton property damage and general anarchy, gotcha[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kurgan;46572199]Zimmerman was an embarrassment for the Left, and Ferguson is shaping up to be too, but somehow the Narrative of Evil WASPS Gunning Down Defenseless Black Youths is stronger than ever.
I wonder when it'll be one Cry-Wolf race-bait story too many.[/QUOTE]
Both your posts are terrible
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573161]so the correct solution is wanton property damage and general anarchy, gotcha[/QUOTE]
what the fuck is this supposed to even mean
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573161]so the correct solution is wanton property damage and general anarchy, gotcha[/QUOTE]
so the correct way to get a point across is to find someone posting who didn't even mention they are for or against the point and put words in their mouth, gotcha
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;46573203]so the correct way to get a point across is to find someone posting who didn't even mention they are for or against the point and put words in their mouth, gotcha[/QUOTE]
i don't see how he could have made it any clearer that he was excusing the violence because of decades of so-called "oppression"
they really are being pointlessly uppity, that's the entire point of riots.
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573221]i don't see how he could have made it any clearer that he was excusing the violence because of decades of so-called "oppression"
they really are being pointlessly uppity, that's the entire point of riots.[/QUOTE]
no one here has justified the looting/shooting/etc. get over yourself
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46573238]no one here has justified the looting/shooting/etc. get over yourself[/QUOTE]
what am I supposed to conclude from this then?
[quote]Attempting to propose that this proves that black people are just being pointlessly uppity would be a shameful and disturbing leap of judgment.[/quote]
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573221]i don't see how he could have made it any clearer that he was excusing the violence because of decades of so-called "oppression"
they really are being pointlessly uppity, that's the entire point of riots.[/QUOTE]
lol are you saying black people in america have not been oppressed for the past 400 years (also it's not a riot it's a protest)
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;46573256]lol are you saying black people in america have not been oppressed for the past 400 years (also it's not a riot it's a protest)[/QUOTE]
oppressed relative to what, exactly? as far as i can see, they're a hell of a lot better off than their cousins in the states descended from the other european colonies, or for that matter their brethren in africa proper.
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573271]oppressed relative to what, exactly? as far as i can see, they're a hell of a lot better off than their cousins in the states descended from the other european colonies, or for that matter their brethren in africa proper.[/QUOTE]
you clearly know nothing about racism in the us
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573271]oppressed relative to what, exactly? as far as i can see, they're a hell of a lot better off than their cousins in the states descended from the other european colonies, or for that matter their brethren in africa proper.[/QUOTE]
That's literally not relevant at all, oppression is not a competition, black people (and any minority, be it racial, sexual, gender-related, religious, and so on) are oppressed in America (not just America obviously) and to deny it is at best naive and willfully ignorant, but most likely just racist. You're probably a racist. Like damn do you think the back of the bus was made up? That slavery was alright? That black men being not allowed to have relationships with white women was justified (to the point of illegality)? That cops were (are!) allowed to attack black dudes for walking down the street? Or maybe you just think it's all in the past, and we currently have a "post-racial America" lmao.
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573161]so the correct solution is wanton property damage and general anarchy, gotcha[/QUOTE]
This was perpetrated by a relatively few number of instigator, many of whom traveled here for specifically that purpose. Brown's family, the legitimate protestors calling for equality and reforms, and the citizens of Ferguson as a whole, are just as much a victim of that stupidity as anybody else.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46573280]you clearly know nothing about racism in the us[/QUOTE]
lol do you think i came out of the womb believing what i do now
i'm familiar with the dominant narrative about racism because even in this sceptred isle i was taught it in school. i just rejected it
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573221]i don't see how he could have made it any clearer that he was excusing the violence because of decades of so-called "oppression"
they really are being pointlessly uppity, that's the entire point of riots.[/QUOTE]
Who is excusing violence? Not me. The rioters should be jailed. It is you who is confusing rioters for protestors, but this is no surprise to me. You have an impressive history of barely contained racism on this website, and believing that narrative helps reinforce your sheltered ideals.
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573311]lol do you think i came out of the womb believing what i do now
i'm familiar with the dominant narrative about racism because even in this sceptred isle i was taught it in school.[B] i just rejected it[/B][/QUOTE]
ok well this explains a lot of stuff then
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573311] i just rejected it[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry. WHAT???
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46573300]This was perpetrated by a relatively few number of instigator, many of whom traveled here for specifically that purpose. Brown's family, the legitimate protestors calling for equality and reforms, and the citizens of Ferguson as a whole, are just as much a victim of that stupidity as anybody else.[/QUOTE]
what's your standard for "relatively few"? hundreds of people have been arrested and probably several times that have gotten away.
[editline]25th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=OutLawed Blade;46573328]I'm sorry. WHAT???[/QUOTE]
yeah i changed my mind, fucking amazing right
[QUOTE=kurgan;46573340]what's your standard for "relatively few"? hundreds of people have been arrested and probably several times that have gotten away.
[editline]25th November 2014[/editline]
yeah i changed my mind, fucking amazing right[/QUOTE]
do you seriously think you're winston smith or something because you've rejected why common forms of discrimination still (sadly) exist
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46573338]Everyone keeps making this argument, i've yet to see actual evidence for it. Let's entertain the idea that maybe.. just maybe.. there are some shitty elements of ferguson who elected to use the protests as a springboard for financial gain.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I said, though. Yes. People rioted. Selfish people with dishonest intentions exploited a bad situation for personal gain. That does not delegitimize the concerns that initially spawned that unrest.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46573316]Who is excusing violence? Not me. The rioters should be jailed. It is you who is confusing rioters for protestors, but this is no surprise to me. You have an impressive history of barely contained racism on this website, and believing that narrative helps reinforce your sheltered ideals.[/QUOTE]
[I]what exactly are they protesting?[/I]
none of the initial accusations of racism in the police force have come out as true, and even granting the premise that racism is a super super bad thing, how exactly do you get so many people out on the streets like this?
protests tend to be about specific, concrete things or people, even if they're connected with an over-arching socioeconomic phenomenon. the russians disliked czarism for ages but the protests were concretely for peace and bread.
you can't protest an -ism alone, it needs a catalyst, and without the catalyst (in this case the lack of any wrongdoing by the police), one can only conclude that the motives are suspect
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