• [BREAKING] Its happening. Grand jury has made a decision about Ferguson.
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[QUOTE=Saigon;46591032]Riots are happening at the Walmart one of my best friends works at. Not good: [IMG]http://i62.tinypic.com/2uj3w2e.png[/IMG] Thankfully she is safe at home now.[/QUOTE] I just realised this is the store that people on twitter were complaining about having "20 cops for 15 of us". So they went ahead and started shit anyway, proving that they [I]did[/I] need those cops. Fucking morons :v: There were also posts saying they "shut this one down" and complaining about the ANG being there. Good thing your friend is okay. And I'm glad the ANG is finally there to shut down these attacks before the fires start.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46591648]I love how this indirectly sets Hamas and Ferguson protestors on the same level.[/QUOTE] I actually made that comparison like 50 pages ago, and it actually makes some sort of sense. The violent rioters aren't representative of the Ferguson community or the people who support the ideas behind the protests, and Hamas isn't representative of the Palestinians or the people who support the idea of a Palestinian state.
So wait, what are the goals of the people that have pretty much made themselves out to be domestic terrorists? That still confuses me.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;46591832]So wait, what are the goals of the people that have pretty much made themselves out to be domestic terrorists? That still confuses me.[/QUOTE] Somehow it seems to include everything from "Brown was innocent!" to "Destroy Capitalism" at this point. I guess all the irrelevant leftist fringe movements are just jumping in wherever they can, like how the black bloc shows up whenever the G8 comes to town.
FoxNews (Hannity) rips apart Brown's lawyer [url]http://insider.foxnews.com/2014/11/25/watch-hannity-takes-brown-family-attorney-daryl-parks[/url]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46594221]FoxNews (Hannity) rips apart Brown's lawyer [url]http://insider.foxnews.com/2014/11/25/watch-hannity-takes-brown-family-attorney-daryl-parks[/url][/QUOTE] the lawyer said that darren fired rounds at him when he was running away after getting shot in the arm. where the fuck is the evidence for that anywhere. hell wheres the fucking eyewitnesses who said that bar the fuckhead that stole with brown.
Can someone explain to me what's been going on?
Basically a cop got put on trial for shooting a criminal and people are protesting that by burning down the city of Ferguson
[QUOTE=Xonax;46595334]Can someone explain to me what's been going on?[/QUOTE] White officer shoots unarmed black male in August. Recently a grand jury found the officer "not guilty" (No True Bill) on all five charges against him. City has been rioting for a few days now. The video in the OP explains the details of the case
[QUOTE=BFG9000;46595420]Basically a cop got put on trial for shooting a criminal and people are protesting that by burning down the city of Ferguson[/QUOTE] more like dipshit eyewitnesses started saying the cop shot brown execution style while he had his hands up kneeling down. Media took that and started spreading it around as fact while saying it was a race issue. Dumbshits believed it and wanted Darren arrested or worse. Then when all the evidence was found and put on the table for the jury, the jury announced there wasn't enough information to say darren was guilty. Then the father of the guy who was shot said "lets burn this motherfucker down" and rioting, looting, and arson started happening all over Ferguson. And now they are suspecting that the police has some kind of secret police because one of the friends of the person who was shot was found shot and killed with his body burned in a fire to keep it a secret.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46595460]White officer shoots unarmed black male in August. Recently a grand jury found the officer "not guilty" (No True Bill) on all five charges against him. City has been rioting for a few days now. The video in the OP explains the details of the case[/QUOTE] No true bill?
[QUOTE=Xonax;46595533]No true bill?[/QUOTE] meaning the grand jury doesn't have enough evidence to charge the person that would result in a trial.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;46595420]Basically a cop got put on trial for shooting a criminal and people are protesting that by burning down the city of Ferguson[/QUOTE] Well, a criminal who robbed a store and then horribly beat an officer to the point where he could of died if he did nothing.
Why are people protesting the police if he is doing his Job?
[QUOTE=Xonax;46595630]Why are people protesting the police if he is doing his Job?[/QUOTE] Because the cop was white, the criminal was black, and people can't see [I]anything[/I] passed that.
Maybe they hate targeted violence so to protest against it they're being violent to everyone hooray for equality :v but no seriously wtf why do people always have to be extreme on everything, how on earth does setting fire to cars and looting make you seem like the good side in any circumstance? oh btw that #fergusonlootcrew tag that was trending on twitter was actually a ruse by some of the same guys who did the #sandylootcrew one when that whole thing happened, just thought i'd clear that up
[QUOTE=JPlus;46595657]Maybe they hate targeted violence so to protest against it they're being violent to everyone hooray for equality :v[/QUOTE] Institutionalized racism. [QUOTE=Code3Response;46583959] I think they see it as an injustice due to the lack of knowledge of the law. I'm not talking about specifically one race or minority, but everyone. I dont see this case as an injustice because I have knowledge of the system, the laws, how courts interpret laws, and how cops articulate actions. I can relate to officer Wilson. Those who do not have that education cannot relate to him and resort to monday night quarterback tactics (mostly looking at the media; which is a whole other issue I can bitch about) After reading the initial interview of Wilson and his testimony to the jury, I can see how he made the decision. Now, I'm not saying this system is perfect. Its not. Institutionalized racism is alive and well in this country and in our police forces. The problem is that the younger generation doesnt want to enter these jobs and change it. You cant fix a problem behind glass. You have to get into the system and change it from the inside (related: The only way to fix our politics in the US is for younger people to get involved in politics). The other issue is a cultural one. Because of the generations of african-american/black citizens being wronged by law enforcement there is a stigma of distrust with the police. Our system fails with minorities because of this.. and its hard to change. Extremely hard to change. This is why again we need more people willing to become police officers and represent their ethnicity (Madison WI is good at this if you want to see an example. St.Paul MN also is making good steps with this).[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/11/28/the-physical-evidence-in-the-michael-brown-case-supported-the-officer/"]Washington Post: "The physical evidence in the Michael Brown case supported the officer"[/URL] From Reddit, which I think is a good comment on it. [quote]This changes nothing. If I've learned anything from this, it's that facts don't matter so long as you feel right. The media are bludgeoning this issue with their own narrow-minded political agendas. On the left they are screaming that Brown was still innocent somehow, the cops were guilty of something else, it's still a racist culture, it was all a set-up, and somehow the facts are all wrong. On the right, they are beating the drum that both the rioters and the protestors are nothing less than a criminal element defending criminals and any issue about previous problems with the department or the massive unemployment rate in the city should be ignored. Look at some of the comments in this thread. There are still people attacking the prosecutor, the grand jury, and Officer Wilson even though the facts exonerate him. But nobody cares because they are right. We have a terrible "Teach the Controversy" culture today. Everybody gets equal time, no matter what the facts say. * Is Obama a Muslim? The facts say no, let's debate it anyway. * Was he born in Kenya? The facts say no, let's debate it anyway. * Will the ACA create death panels? The facts say no, let's debate it anyway. * Is climate change real? The facts say yes, let's debate it anyway. * Is evolution real? The facts say yes, let's debate it anyway. * Was the attack on Benghazi a coverup? The facts say no, let's debate it anyway. * Was 9/11 an inside job by the Bush administration? The facts say no, let's debate it anyway. We never establish an answer, we just air the debate on TV and let it fester in the air with aura of doubt so we can argue about it later. No one ever seems to say: "The answer is no. If you disagree you are wrong. It is not debatable. The Earth is not flat." So this is what we get: a society that believes every individuals personal opinions are right, they see the world from their own isolated view which can not be wrong, and anyone who challenges that view is out to destroy them and the truth. So when a black man is killed fighting with police we see a group of people pour out onto the streets and claim that Americans don't care about the deaths of blacks, and maybe even endorse it. The idea that somehow, someway, somewhere, Officer Wilson acted properly and in full accordance with the law is simply not possible. Anyone who believes that is a racist that wants repression and genocide. This crowd is quickly followed by another who considers every single protestor on the street to be nothing less than a criminal worthy of nothing else besides a few solid kicks to the head. Disregarding any of the problems that may exist within the community that are causing racial tension in the first place. So, we have the facts. We know what happened. The truth is clear, and unhidden. We could try to make real reform from this tragedy, but we won't. We demand ignorant bliss over responsibility through knowledge. We'd rather argue and prove ourselves right, than do a god damn thing.[/quote] [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/2npckk/the_physical_evidence_in_the_michael_brown_case/cmfpcid[/url] [editline]28th November 2014[/editline] also, this is cool [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/ferguson-grand-jury-findings/[/url]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46597729][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/11/28/the-physical-evidence-in-the-michael-brown-case-supported-the-officer/"]Washington Post: "The physical evidence in the Michael Brown case supported the officer"[/URL] From Reddit, which I think is a good comment on it. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/2npckk/the_physical_evidence_in_the_michael_brown_case/cmfpcid[/url] [editline]28th November 2014[/editline] also, this is cool [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/ferguson-grand-jury-findings/[/url][/QUOTE] No, if that was the case then maybe you would realize that the cop wasn't being racist, because he was just defending himself against some huge football player sized guy who could have easily killed him with his bare hands
can anyone give me a quick lowdown on why wilson is 'innocent' and what actually happened? i cant look myself without getting swamped without LOOK WHAT THE WORLD IS COMING TO
[QUOTE=Crumpet;46607532]can anyone give me a quick lowdown on why wilson is 'innocent' and what actually happened? i cant look myself without getting swamped without LOOK WHAT THE WORLD IS COMING TO[/QUOTE] The Grand Jury found that there was not enough evidence to indict Wilson.
[QUOTE=Crumpet;46607532]can anyone give me a quick lowdown on why wilson is 'innocent' and what actually happened? i cant look myself without getting swamped without LOOK WHAT THE WORLD IS COMING TO[/QUOTE] Youtube video in the OP
To be honest, I don't think we can say if he was innocent or not. There are too many versions of the story to know whether the shooting was justified or not. [editline]t[/editline] Also, this is nice. [t]http://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/547b80fcd3122.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Flumbooze;46608233]To be honest, I don't think we can say if he was innocent or not. There are too many versions of the story to know whether the shooting was justified or not.[/QUOTE] We really can. The grand jury basically demonstrated how most of those stories were bullshit. There is evidence, and it points to him being innocent. The facts say he's innocent, for once lets not debate this one anyway.
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