• Gay couple arrested for kissing outside Mormon church
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ITT: Thinly veiled homophobia.
You know, the world would be a better place if people just butt out of each other's personal business.
[QUOTE=thisispain;16031964]Because there are no gay couples that are sober and don't have their dicks out mastrubating. Are you twelve or have you just never seen gay people before?[/QUOTE] All the information is gathered from one of the partners, of course its going to be biased towards him. I'm not some homophobic anti-gay rights person but I know a bullshit story when I see one
[QUOTE=Luxo;16032011]You know, the world would be a better place if people just butt out of each other's personal business.[/QUOTE] Exactly.
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032016]All the information is gathered from one of the partners, of course its going to be biased towards him.[/QUOTE] So you have no proof for what you are saying, yet you maintain that they were being "whiny and annoying". Let me ask, which one is more likely to you? Choose your next words carefully.
[quote]A gay couple was arrested in Salt Lake City on Thursday after kissing outside a Mormon church and refusing to leave when security guards told them to do so: Matt Aune said he and his partner, Derek Jones, were walking home from a [b]concert nearby on Thursday night,[/b] cutting through the plaza near the Salt Lake City Mormon temple. [b]Aune, 28, said he gave Jones, 25, a hug and kiss[/b] and that the two were then approached by a security guard, who asked them to leave, telling them they were being inappropriate and that public displays of affection aren’t allowed on the property. ([b]Notice how it does not say anything that transpired after asking to leave)[/b][highlight]He said[/highlight] other guards arrived and the men were handcuffed. [/QUOTE] So what he asked them to leave then they stormed them with guards after wards? Theirs also the fact that its a single source from the "Victim" so its going to be biased, Theirs always two sides to a story and this is only taken from one, bad source. Then of course theirs this guy on the website, may or may not be reliable but as I see it its no more reliable than the source its self. [quote]How funny that these guys try to claim that they were victims. I witnessed the whole thing. First of all, these two gentlemen did much more then hold hands and kiss, [b]they were completely all over each other.[/b] Second of all they were given ample opportunities to leave, these security guards told them politely they could stay on this easement as long as they weren’t all over each other. The two men turned things around quickly, [highlight]they were drunk and completely obnoxious and rude to the security guards,[/highlight] cussing at them and calling them all sorts of names. That’s when they arrested them for trespassing not kissing. Funny how these two “victims” claim to be victimized, when in reality they were just picking a fight, and wanted some attention which they got.[/quote] Honestly who doesn't drink and get fucking smashed at a concert? Its late at night and they have to walk home so they don't have to worry about shit. It makes sense if you add it all up. Point me to a more reliable source then I will admit I am wrong.
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032207] Honestly who doesn't drink and get fucking smashed at a concert? It makes sense if you add it all up. Point me to a more reliable source then I will admit I am wrong.[/QUOTE] ah yes the prove me wrong fallacy how about you prove you are right einstein
[QUOTE=ohgodshana2;16023930]Let's steal threads from SA[/QUOTE] We've stolen about everything else, so why not their threads?
To be fair, the Mormon Church did say that they'd act the same with any public display of affection, and it was apparently private property. The problem is that they're not exactly in a terribly credible position, what with funding Prop 8 and all.
Thank God I got out of Utah. Mormons are really getting on my nerve. [quote=thisispain] So you have no proof for what you are saying, yet you maintain that they were being "whiny and annoying". Let me ask, which one is more likely to you? Choose your next words carefully. [/quote] You love to argue people don't you?
[QUOTE=Lostangeles4;16032263] You love to argue people don't you?[/QUOTE] not as much as your secretly like men btw get out
[QUOTE=thisispain;16032279]not as much as your secretly like men btw get out[/QUOTE] that was a low blow brah
[QUOTE=Paravin;16031595]It's just because homosexuals have the need to show off that they're gay - ''hurf druf im gay you cantnt tuch me lol''. If they are to be treated as equals, they must act like equals.[/QUOTE] But plenty of straight people engage in public displays of affection! These people weren't doing this because they were gay per se, it's more because they were just happy with being intimate in public. [editline]08:00AM[/editline] Also it's pretty hard to be sympathetic to an institution that uses its charity free status to fund political agendas, openly teaches that black people are inferior (look it up; their souls are neutral to Eloheem, which presents itself as black skin) and bases all its thinking on a magical gold book that mysteriously vanished after the bloke who found it accidentally "lost" it, after imparting all the knowledge that he was a profit. I'm inclined to say that these people are dangerously delusional.
[QUOTE=thisispain;16032231]ah yes the prove me wrong fallacy how about you prove you are right einstein[/QUOTE] Well there's also the fact that a security guard in the United States can't arrest a person, only call for back up which means a police officer was called in or nearby one had had to haul them off meaning more than likely if they where holding hands and just kissing for about 20 minutes he would of just let them be then if it was in error that he arrested him its in the states hands not the Mormons.
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032352]Well there's also the fact that a security guard in the United States can't arrest a person, only call for back up which means a police officer was called in or nearby one had had to haul them off meaning more than likely if they where holding hands and just kissing for about 20 minutes he would of just let them be.[/QUOTE] I still don't see any proof of what you are saying.
[QUOTE=thisispain;16032372]I still don't see any proof of what you are saying.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_guard#United_States[/url] [quote]Most security officers do not carry weapons and have the same powers of arrest as a private citizen[/quote] Also there is no "Direct proof" of proving this false but this story has so many holes that its likely not true or accurate
Spin this whatever way you want, it's pretty hard to support the Mormon Church even if the couple were going at it with tongues and everything. Apparently, it's pretty easy to miss the sign saying the plaza is private property , and also it's the Mormon Church.
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032406][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_guard#United_States[/url] Also there is no "Direct proof" of proving this false but this story has so many holes that its likely not true or accurate[/QUOTE] the argument making the least assumptions is the most correct [editline]12:14AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Splurgy;16032442]Spin this whatever way you want, it's pretty hard to support the Mormon Church even if the couple were going at it with tongues and everything. Apparently, it's pretty easy to miss the sign saying the plaza is private property , and also it's the Mormon Church.[/QUOTE] fuck the mormon church
[QUOTE=Splurgy;16032442]Spin this whatever way you want, it's pretty hard to support the Mormon Church even if the couple were going at it with tongues and everything. Apparently, it's pretty easy to miss the sign saying the plaza is private property , and also it's the Mormon Church.[/QUOTE] Indeed the Mormon church is a fucked up Scientology-like/Christianity hybrid religion but that don't mean I'm going to fall for that bullshit excuse for a victim any day.
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032462]Indeed the Mormon church is a fucked up Scientology-like/Christianity hybrid religion but that don't mean I'm going to fall for that bullshit excuse for a victim any day.[/QUOTE] no-one's trying to trick you if you want to distort and make assumptions without knowing anything, go the fuck ahead, but don't go sticking your shit in FP as if it's correct.
[QUOTE=Splurgy;16032442]Spin this whatever way you want, it's pretty hard to support the Mormon Church even if the couple were going at it with tongues and everything. Apparently, it's pretty easy to miss the sign saying the plaza is private property , and also it's the Mormon Church.[/QUOTE] plus, they're mormons Oh wait you said that
[QUOTE=thisispain;16032447]the argument making the least assumptions is the most correct [/QUOTE] Hmm k I'll just point out all the holes. -Late at night -Account of "Victims being drunk" -"Victims" walking home from concert -Private Property -Single interview from "Victim" used as source -Security Guard asked to leave -No account from "Victim" of what happened in between asking to leave then and being arrested. -Security Guard cannot incarcerate a citizen only call for back up (Citizen arrest is possible but that would not be able to haul them off the property unless done in an illegal action) -period of "Holding hands and kissing" while waiting for the cop to show up -Cop made the arrest -Waiting time between all these stages while just "Kissing and holding hands" -If they where just "Victims" why did they not leave when asked to? -"part where all gays have spontaneous gay sex in public" :rolleyes: Can I prove that they where actually victims for fact? No this an opinion. With out a real source that's not as biased as :foxnews: will never truly know will we? Even if I where to come up with some tremendous hard line proof that they where making a scene for publicity I doubt you would admit it anyway. That pretty much concludes arguing with some stranger over the very many series of tubes. [editline]07:32AM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;16032477] but don't go sticking your shit in FP[/QUOTE] That says a lot coming from a person like you :v:
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032575]Hmm k I'll just point out all the holes. -Late at night -Account of "Victims being drunk" -"Victims" walking home from concert -Private Property -Single interview from "Victim" used as source -Security Guard asked to leave -No account from "Victim" of what happened in between asking to leave then and being arrested. -Security Guard cannot incarcerate a citizen only call for back up (Citizen arrest is possible but that would not be able to haul them off the property unless done in an illegal action) -period of "Holding hands and kissing" while waiting for the cop to show up -Cop made the arrest -Waiting time between all these stages while just "Kissing and holding hands" -If they where just "Victims" why did they not leave when asked to?[/QUOTE] you forgot the part where all gays have spontaneous gay sex in public
[QUOTE=Chippay;16031820]Actually, it's the opposite. Sorry. “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)[/QUOTE] No, no, that's what they wrote down. I was there when Jesus SAID it. :smug:
[QUOTE=thisispain;16032612]you forgot the part where all gays have spontaneous gay sex in public[/QUOTE] Fixed [QUOTE=protoAuthor;16032639]No, no, that's what they wrote down. I was there when Jesus SAID it. :smug:[/QUOTE] Me too bro. Did you also see that Jesus was Chinese.
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032683] Me too bro. Did you also see that Jesus was Chinese.[/QUOTE] Totally. But he was also blacker than TH89.
[QUOTE=Splurgy;16032442]Spin this whatever way you want, it's pretty hard to support the Mormon Church even if the couple were going at it with tongues and everything. Apparently, it's pretty easy to miss the sign saying the plaza is private property , and also it's the Mormon Church.[/QUOTE] FYI their plaza isn't private property if the American public is picking up the tab on its taxation.
When will shit like this be over. When will our society grow the fuck up
[QUOTE=Saxon;16032207]Honestly who doesn't drink and get fucking smashed at a concert? Its late at night and they have to walk home so they don't have to worry about shit. It makes sense if you add it all up. Point me to a more reliable source then I will admit I am wrong.[/QUOTE] Reliable source as in a commenter on a website?
[QUOTE=Lankist;16034473]FYI their plaza isn't private property if the American public is picking up the tab on its taxation.[/QUOTE] OK lot's of people are saying this. The fact is, us Mormons pay tithing, 10% of our income, which goes to pay for our temples and buildings, and keeping them all running etc. So yes, while the church is tax-exempt, tax money isn't paying for anything, I can assure you. I guess in my opinion it comes down to this. If the couple really was making out, causing an obvious nuisance, defying security when they were asked to leave, then it was right they got arrested. If it was just holding hands and a few kisses then security probably shouldn't have stopped them, as there are plenty of straight couples who do that sort of thing and nothing happens. Heck, that's the #1 spot for Mormon's to get married, and there is definitely lots of kissing going on then! Guess we'll never know how it REALLY went down.
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