• James Bond will swig Heineken instead of Martinis in upcoming "Skyfall"
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Advertising much? And hell the beer isn't that great.
I'm pissed off at how Q is being played by this young as shit guy with Bieber hair.
[QUOTE=Nikota;35473458]I'm pissed off at how Q is being played by this young as shit guy with Bieber hair.[/QUOTE] This is a more aggravating change than a fucking drink. Goddamn people, they never said he'd be chugging that shit every scene. Just that he will ask for a Heineken at some point in the film as product placement.
The casting is just so terrible.
[QUOTE=Nikota;35473458]I'm pissed off at how Q is being played by this young as shit guy with Bieber hair.[/QUOTE] Hold on, what? I haven't heard of this, have you got a picture? [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Wait, found a picture [img]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2011/11/whishaw.jpg[/img] Are you fucking serious? John Cleese only got two movies, (more like one and a half, he had less of a part in World is Not Enough than Desmond) and they go and replace him with this limey shit?
Got him confused haircut wise with someone else. He still looks fucking terrible and doesnt fit the role at all. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] He's in his late 20's I think.
Fun fact: in the James Bond books, the drink he ordered the most was whiskey
Although superficial, I can see why this is an issue. I mean James Bond is a finely crafted stereotype, designed and built on staples of what people thing 60's secret agents were like. The last few films feel like an Americanization of James Bond. Now he's blonde, he gets beat the crap out of, he's gritty and raw, he doesn't have a strong accent anymore, and now he drinks beer. Next, he'll be driving something out of Detroit.
[QUOTE=Source;35472541]Vodka Martini is a fucking iconic part of Bond......you can't just change shit like that fucking retarded product placements, why can't he just drive his aston martin through a Heineken billboard or some shit?[/QUOTE] "Shaken or stirred, sir?" "LOL NOPE HEINEKEN PLS :D" I've had it through the tip of my hair with this fucking advertising in everything... [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lt_C;35473677]Although superficial, I can see why this is an issue. I mean James Bond is a finely crafted stereotype, designed and built on staples of what people thing 60's secret agents were like. The last few films feel like an Americanization of James Bond. Now he's blonde, he gets beat the crap out of, he's gritty and raw, he doesn't have a strong accent anymore, and now he drinks beer. Next, he'll be driving something out of Detroit.[/QUOTE] Hummer H2. At least he can bring an arsenal + backup. But I bet the ecotards will throw a hissy fit and then here comes Bond in a Prius!
[QUOTE=The Vman;35472737]I'd love to see Clive Owen, he seems like he would have been a much more logical choice than Craig [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cvo4jwbe8wE/SrwJhwW6PXI/AAAAAAAAC6E/lAd83-iIoaQ/s400/clive_owen_croupier.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I think Clive Owen fits much more the grim underground gritty anti-hero type of character (like Dwight from Sin City) than the classy efficient wise-cracking official spy one like Bond.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35473797]I think Clive Owen fits much more the grim underground gritty anti-hero type of character (like Dwight from Sin City) than the classy efficient wise-cracking official spy one like Bond.[/QUOTE] Thank you
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Why don't we me make him have an American accent, too?! While we're at it, let's make Jedi use bastard swords instead of Light Sabers
[QUOTE=TheTalon;35474213]Why don't we me make him have an American accent, too?! While we're at it, let's make Jedi use bastard swords instead of Light Sabers[/QUOTE] I'd love to hear "shaken, not stirred" in a southern accent.
Am I the only one who thinks that product placement in general is a bad thing? I can't see why it is acceptable to force advertisements on people for in/on something they have already paid for.
[QUOTE=David29;35474349]Am I the only one who thinks that product placement in general is a bad thing? I can't see why it is acceptable to force advertisements on people for in/on something they have already paid for.[/QUOTE] I'd rather have cheap cinema tickets with product placement. As long as it's not ruining the film horribly, it's fine in my books.
[QUOTE=Source;35472541]Vodka Martini is a fucking iconic part of Bond......you can't just change shit like that fucking retarded product placements, why can't he just drive his aston martin through a Heineken billboard or some shit?[/QUOTE] And lager tastes awful. This will only happen in 5 seconds of film, but it's like taking away a key aspect. Next he won't use a Walther. Or be a spy. Or only bed beautiful... Men?
What is his bar-catchphrase going to be now? "Heineken, please. Chilled, not cooled."
[QUOTE=Coffee;35474430]I'd rather have cheap cinema tickets with product placement. As long as it's not ruining the film horribly, it's fine in my books.[/QUOTE] That's the problem though. I would be fine with it too if it led to a reduced price, but it almost certainly won't.
Is he dropping the Martinis for good or is he having at least one Heineken in the movie? [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Or, perhaps Bond is in deep cover in some crap ass part of the world, he goes into a bar and orders a Martini, only to have the bartender say that he doesn't make martinis (which will show you how crap ass that part of the world is), so Bond then orders a Heineken, drinks it in one swallow, only to kill the bartender with the empty bottle.
James bond threads on FP are cancer, you guys whine till ears bleed. "this isn't james bond!!!" Yes it is ffs, the reboot so far has been closer to the actual Fleming novels than any of the previous movies. Pro tip: The martini isn't characteristic of Bond either, he orders whiskey more often. In fact if i remember correctly, he consumes a wide variety of alcoholic beverages, no special emphasis was ever placed on the martini until the films. Casino Royale was very, very well made. Yes we all know quantum of solace sucked, get over it, it had an unsuitable director. That's one hit, one miss and yet you all act like Craig has sabotaged the series. In Casino Royale, Bond is a rookie 00 agent recruited straight from the SAS. Of course he isn't going to be dapper and smooth yet. That whole film has him fucking up multiple times for a reason. It's showing he hasn't found his groove yet, and he's not mature enough as an agent to be emotionally detached from the situation. QoS was just a shit film so I'm not going to comment on that as part of the growing Bond. Although, again, it's set directly after the events of CR and he's still a rookie. I'm more than willing to give skyfall a chance. If you're so offended by the changes brought on by the reboot, go watch any of the other 20 films that don't star craig and have voodoo people and jetpacks or whatever the fuck.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;35475150]James bond threads on FP are cancer, you guys whine till ears bleed. "this isn't james bond!!!" Yes it is ffs, the reboot so far has been closer to the actual Fleming novels than any of the previous movies. Pro tip: The martini isn't characteristic of Bond either, he orders whiskey more often. In fact if i remember correctly, he consumes a wide variety of alcoholic beverages, no special emphasis was ever placed on the martini until the films. Casino Royale was very, very well made. Yes we all know quantum of solace sucked, get over it, it had an unsuitable director. That's one hit, one miss and yet you all act like Craig has sabotaged the series. In Casino Royale, Bond is a rookie 00 agent recruited straight from the SAS. Of course he isn't going to be dapper and smooth yet. That whole film has him fucking up multiple times for a reason. It's showing he hasn't found his groove yet, and he's not mature enough as an agent to be emotionally detached from the situation. QoS was just a shit film so I'm not going to comment on that as part of the growing Bond. Although, again, it's set directly after the events of CR and he's still a rookie. I'm more than willing to give skyfall a chance. If you're so offended by the changes brought on by the reboot, go watch any of the other 20 films that don't star craig and have voodoo people and jetpacks or whatever the fuck.[/QUOTE] Goddamn, you nailed it all perfectly. Somehow the most OUTLANDISH devices and scenes are "classic" Bond, but try to bring it back to reality a little bit and suddenly people are up in arms. Die Another Day: Racing sports cars in a crumbling ice castle, really?
Maybe it won't be so bad. This is the beginning of Bond's career, after all. Maybe his tastes haven't refined yet. For all we know, it could go down like. . . [quote=Skyfall]BOND: Ugh. . .this Heineken I ordered tastes like piss, and I have yet to get laid. What else do you have? BARTENDER: Well, there's always Dos Equis. BOND: Mexican beer? There's nothing interesting about Mexican beer. BARTENDER: All right. . .try this, then. (passes BOND a vodka martini, shaken, not stirred) BOND: (takes a sip, immediately gets blown by every woman in the room) BARTENDER: Is that more to your liking, sir? BOND: Good lord, man. . .what did you say this is called, again?[/quote]
[QUOTE=Source;35472541]Vodka Martini is a fucking iconic part of Bond......you can't just change shit like that fucking retarded product placements, why can't he just drive his aston martin through a Heineken billboard or some shit?[/QUOTE] at first, I was mildly pissed off. But then I had an epiphany... I don't actually give a shit what fictional movie spies order at bars. Not a single shit. I'm really just pissed off at product placement in general, and I only [i]barely[/i] give a shit about that, too.
[QUOTE=Lt_C;35473677]Next, he'll be driving something out of Detroit.[/QUOTE] Bond drove a '71 Ford Mustang in Diamonds Are Forever (and it was Sean Connery, too).
I still think that 007 and James Bond is just a codename that multiple agents have used over the years, and I'd rather have the character evolve than be exactly the same for several decades.
That must've cost Heineken a metric fuckton.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;35474213]Why don't we me make him have an American accent, too?! While we're at it, let's make Jedi use bastard swords instead of Light Sabers[/QUOTE] An arrogant intelligence agent who eschews cover identities in favor of brazenly announcing his name and then proceeds to fuck shit up in the most overt fashion possible without getting killed and then sleeps with whatever woman happens to be nearby? What part of this sounds even remotely British? Early Bond was British. Modern Bond is already pretty much American. They could switch MI6 to CIA and nobody would even notice for several movies. :P
This is hardly the weirdest thing to happen in the James Bond universe. There's this gem. The first filmed adaptation of a Bond novel: Casino Royale. With Jimmy Bond of the C.I.A. [video=youtube;cYhQqTAGd7k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYhQqTAGd7k[/video]
Stopped watching after Brosnan. Whatever.
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