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What do you think happens to the equipment after the war?
[QUOTE=thisispain;47805086]What do you think happens to the equipment after the war?[/QUOTE] they keep it, I'm guessing.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;47805354]they keep it, I'm guessing.[/QUOTE] Stuff goes missing, things get sold and suddenly we have a new batch of armed terrorists.
[QUOTE=thisispain;47805086]What do you think happens to the equipment after the war?[/QUOTE] A necessary evil, how else can they stop Isis if there are no boots on the ground? The media says Iraq has to fight it's own battle and that might be the only way they can realistically.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;47805367]Stuff goes missing, things get sold and suddenly we have a new batch of armed terrorists.[/QUOTE] yeah, this whole situation is fucked. ISIS really has started quite the unwinnable situation.
[QUOTE=proch;47795715]So if you could declare a war, knowing that there will be men of your country who will not come back home, would you do it? Would you expend the lives of your own countrymen, and the happiness of many others of your countrymen, to try and fight a force that thus far hasn't even majorly influenced your country?[/QUOTE] Alot of suits and fat cat's at the top would.
[QUOTE=thisispain;47804636]You've misunderstood my fundamental claim, ISIS is agnostic to cultures in order to open itself up to a wider net of potential recruits; ISIS combatants hail from many varied cultures who can't even communicate in the same dialect of Arabic.[/quote] No, I think I understand it. It's just wrong. ISIS is concerned only with sustaining power for its leadership yet this leadership actively parties in suicide bombing? They make nonsensical strategic decisions that just so happen to be in line with ancient prophecies? The leadership structure is coincidentally modeled after a historical religious ruling system? Either the entire organization is an incredibly well run scam or these people actually believe in what they say they believe. [quote]This is why it upholds itself as being Islamic purists, even though they're quite willing to break away from ahadith or even commonly-upheld jurisprudence. It's a convenient way of lending authority to their power, which is of-course the primary function of authority.[/quote] One of the defining features of the Islamist movement is its disregard for religious scholars and traditional jurisprudence. It's a foundational feature of the movement. This has been the case since the early 20th Century with figures like al-Banna and Mawdudi (and obviously Qutb). I'm not sure why adherence to traditional jurisprudence is a requirement for some group to be genuinely religious or to have a culture. I'm a bit confused by why you mentioned this. Either way, you seem to have a big misunderstanding of what an "Islamic purist" is and what they would believe in. This is like saying Martin Luther wasn't a "Christian purist" because he threw out centuries of church tradition. He was a purist [b]because[/b] he threw it out. The Hadith comment shows similar ignorance. Every single Hadith has been disputed at one point or another ever since they were first compiled. Reinterpreting or reselecting hadiths has always been a widespread practice and a cornerstone of Islamism. And, once again, I don't know why adherence to traditional hadiths is some sort of requirement to be part of a culture. The point you're trying to make here is that ISIS can't really be a part of any culture or have any real ideology because their leaders act only to sustain themselves and they're not toeing the line of traditionalist Islam. The first claim is not true and the second ignores decades of Islamist political and religious thought and practice. [quote]No, that's a ridiculous statement. Did the culture begin in 1933 and end in 1945? Nazi Germany is not a meaningful noun in that context. Do you mean German culture? Nazi-ism certainly did not come completely from German culture if that's the insinuation.[/quote] Yes, I meant German culture. I called it "Nazi Germany," as in "German culture between 1933 and 1945." OK? I never said Nazism is solely an offshoot of early 20th Century German culture. It obviously was a hugely significant factor considering the nationalism, racism, and revanchism present in Germany at that time. [quote]Cute but it's not my definition, it's the working definition as used in anthropological study.[/quote] I'd like to hear the definition in your own words or the way you use it. Otherwise this entire conversation is pointless. [quote]I see violent uses of authority and propaganda in order to support guerrilla warfare. ISIS itself is not replacing the former cultures it is destroying, nor is it embedding itself into societies like the Taliban did. Other groups with opportunist ambitions are seizing what are left in that power vacuum. The Yezidim society would be a good example; they're not replacing or even Islamify-ing their society, they're just killing them off.[/QUOTE] Also just ignorant and wrong. What news sources do you read that are telling you these things? I find the parallels between ISIS and the Taliban to be stark. This seems to be a critical misunderstanding on your part.
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