Plot Twist: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brow
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[QUOTE=DJK;45740777]I would hit a cop too if he was trying to kill me.[/QUOTE]
damn man you are a rebel
I mean are you even reading the threads and drawing a logical conclusion, that this Officer was attacked first, and responded with legitimate force?
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;45741078]same reason people blew up over the zimmerman case and yelled racism.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure the zimmerman case is the best flag to wave, "false racism card!" is a bit harder to ingest in a situation concerning a city named as one of the top 10 (9th?) most segregated locations in the US, where the arrest record was 10:1 minority favor in 2013 (to which we can argue further whether or not it's a deserved bias due to the disparity in who primarily lives below the poverty line, etc etc)
by all means if he was defending himself from a violent attacker (whether or not he knew he was a supsect in the first place), he was fine in defending himself and the dude should have known what he was getting into by (presumably) charging a cop.
The problem at hand very quickly shifted away from "was the shooting justified" to "what the fuck is up with the police-state-like reaction to the protesters and journalists, this is looking more like the Kiev riots than quelling some hooligans". The people I've seen trying to point out reasons the whole situation is 'justified' (like it closes some sort of case and absolves the police of their wrongdoings) seem to have a dangerously narrow view of what is happening
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45741131]Because plenty of people don't believe that he was defending himself because plenty of people don't trust the police.
[I]Because people are human beings with emotions.[/I] They feel strongly about things. Not everybody can be the cold, analytical robot that you expect them to be to satisfy your false sense of "objectivity." Lots of black people in America feel profoundly disenfranchised by the system; if you tried to have a tiny little bit of sympathy towards their position you might suddenly find their attitudes and their protests, if not endeared to you, at least [I]understandable[/I].[/QUOTE]
I understand anger t wards institutional racism but I can't agree with people who jump to conclusions about guilt/innocence, I can't agree with looting except for that one Mcdonalds for the tear gas milk. This whole situation is a mess and no one is helping their cause at all. People are coming from out of state and the longer this goes on the more violent it's going to get. Level heads need to prevail and everyone needs to go home, agree?
[QUOTE=dai;45741483]I'm not sure the zimmerman case is the best flag to wave, "false racism card!" is a bit harder to ingest in a situation concerning a city named as one of the top 10 (9th?) most segregated locations in the US, where the arrest record was 10:1 minority favor in 2013.
by all means if he was defending himself from a violent attacker (whether or not he knew he was a supsect in the first place), he was fine in defending himself and the dude should have known what he was getting into (presumably) charging a cop.
The problem at hand very quickly shifted away from "was the shooting justified" to "what the fuck is up with the police-state-like reaction to the protesters and journalists, this is looking more like the Kiev riots than quelling some hooligans". The people I've seen trying to point out reasons the whole situation is 'justified' like it closes some sort of case and absolves the police of their wrongdoings has a dangerously narrow view of what is happening[/QUOTE]
This whole situation is very racial. The protesters are essentially all black, the black leadership (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.) is involved, etc. and the vast majority of this racial outcry is associated with the shooting. As long as this continues to be a racial issue the truth of this shooting will be of the utmost importance.
The whole police thing with the protestors and journalists affects everyone equally, the white journalist along with the black.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45741131]
[I]Because people are human beings with emotions.[/I] They feel strongly about things. Not everybody can be the cold, analytical robot that you expect them to be to satisfy your false sense of "objectivity." Lots of black people in America feel profoundly disenfranchised by the system; if you tried to have a tiny little bit of sympathy towards their position you might suddenly find their attitudes and their protests, if not endeared to you, at least [I]understandable[/I].[/QUOTE]
Funny, when the internet does it, its trolling to you.
[QUOTE=dai;45741483]I'm not sure the zimmerman case is the best flag to wave, "false racism card!" is a bit harder to ingest in a situation concerning a city named as one of the top 10 (9th?) most segregated locations in the US, where the arrest record was 10:1 minority favor in 2013 (to which we can argue further whether or not it's a deserved bias due to the disparity in who primarily lives below the poverty line, etc etc)
by all means if he was defending himself from a violent attacker (whether or not he knew he was a supsect in the first place), he was fine in defending himself and the dude should have known what he was getting into by (presumably) charging a cop.
The problem at hand very quickly shifted away from "was the shooting justified" to "what the fuck is up with the police-state-like reaction to the protesters and journalists, this is looking more like the Kiev riots than quelling some hooligans". The people I've seen trying to point out reasons the whole situation is 'justified' (like it closes some sort of case and absolves the police of their wrongdoings) seem to have a dangerously narrow view of what is happening[/QUOTE]
to be honest a 9 to 1 arrests among minorities isn't so insane when you consider that minorities made roughly 70% of the population. (mind you that was the 2010 census, so population may have shifted even moe) That would give you a 7:3 arrest count if it followed along racial lines.
When you add in other facts, like that US minorities tend to be poorer, a 9:1 arrest count seems fairly in line with the population actually.
[quote=wikipedia]
In the 2010 census, 29.3% were White and 67.4% were African American.[/quote]
The photo in the article is NOT of the officer.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;45742017]to be honest a 9 to 1 arrests among minorities isn't so insane when you consider that minorities made roughly 70% of the population. (mind you that was the 2010 census, so population may have shifted even moe) That would give you a 7:3 arrest count if it followed along racial lines.
When you add in other facts, like that US minorities tend to be poorer, a 9:1 arrest count seems fairly in line with the population actually.[/QUOTE]
If I recall correctly they also found out that of the people they stopped, white people would more often carry illegal substances with them, but they still profiled blacks as a target for traffic stops.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45740850]I mean look at this statement ^^^
Are people deaf? Have they not been hearing any of the countless people chiming in that this is about more than Michael Brown? That it's about decades of discrimination from law enforcement, unfair media treatment, and a million other racial issues bubbling just under the surface of American society? How completely clueless does someone have to be to have access to all of this information, all of these different viewpoints and [b]still[/b] think that the protesting in Ferguson is just "some people who are angry because this one kid got shot" and not, instead, the boiling point of a huge number of other issues?[/QUOTE]
For most people on the internet their experience with protesting is using an online tool to send a form letter to their politician in an attempt to stop the NSA from reading their emails. They can't really fathom a protest that stems from the pent up anger a group of minorities feel after being mistreated for decades by the government.
must've hit himself in the face when he realised he shot a surrendering man, that is the only explanation
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45742280]For most people on the internet their experience with protesting is using an online tool to send a form letter to their politician in an attempt to stop the NSA from reading their emails. They can't really fathom a protest that stems from the pent up anger a group of minorities feel after being mistreated for decades by the government.[/QUOTE]
It's funny you mention this because plenty of people talk about how useless protests are here in Canada and then they make fun of Quebecers for actually getting off their asses and doing something.
I'm glad people are out there standing up for their rights, just wish some assholes wouldn't use it as an excuse to hurt people or break shit.
[QUOTE=dai;45741483]The problem at hand very quickly shifted away from "was the shooting justified" to "what the fuck is up with the police-state-like reaction to the protesters and journalists, this is looking more like the Kiev riots than quelling some hooligans". The people I've seen trying to point out reasons the whole situation is 'justified' (like it closes some sort of case and absolves the police of their wrongdoings) seem to have a dangerously narrow view of what is happening[/QUOTE]yeah within the first day it went from why did you shoot this kid to why are you acting like this we just want to protest we aren't doing anything illegal or illegal enough to warrant just shooting teargas at us and pointing guns at everyone
Not like white people are "majority" everywhere in the country. I'm sure more than half the "racist arrests" are done by someone who is not actually white but is rather a "minority" himself.
What was the whole thing about if everyone is doing it then nobody is?
[QUOTE=sgman91;45740860]The shooting is still the big talking point for the racial aspect. Here's Al Sharpton speaking to a crowd in Ferguson just flat out saying that Brown was surrendering with his hands in the air and that people should be angry about the injustice of his being shot: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjKUOIEh_0[/url][/QUOTE]
Don't ever listen to Al Sharpton. Ever. Most of what he says is barely relevant to anything he's talking about, and what he does say is always racist and aimed to stir up as much trouble as possible
[QUOTE=TheTalon;45742978]Don't ever listen to Al Sharpton. Ever. Most of what he says is barely relevant to anything he's talking about, and what he does say is always racist and aimed to stir up as much trouble as possible[/QUOTE]
Yet he is still respected in the general black community. The parents of Brown are standing behind him as he gives the speech to the very people protesting.
That site looks sketch as fuck, OP. That picture isn't of the officer, it's some random dude's injury. And the headlines would make SA blush in embarrassment.
Seriously, read this article and tell me if you find sanity: [url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-isis-in-ferguson-video/[/url]
well no shit its not the officer. Its a damn file photo.
[url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/about/[/url]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45743336]well no shit its not the officer. Its a damn file photo.
[url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/about/[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]In late 2004 I started [B]The Gateway Pundit blog[/B] after the presidential election. At that time I had my twin brother Joe and my buddy Chris as regular readers. A lot has changed since then.[/QUOTE]
This isn't a valid news source anymore.
-snip im fucking stupid ignore me-
I understand that this is for a just cause but can we please stop [B]rioting and looting[/B] and just protest instead. It's a lot easier on everyone and makes your cause look a lot better.
That site is complete right-wing trash. Nobody reputable appears to be picking up the story in any earnestness.
Also, even if he somehow shattered that dude's eye socket by punching him all the way inside his car, it still doesn't justify gunning a man down while his hands were raised in surrender. The protests and riots are also about a LOT more than just the shooting of one man.
But, that won't stop the chorus of hateful right-wing racists shouting that he was a thug just like Trayvon and deserved to be shot...
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;45742674]It's funny you mention this because plenty of people talk about how useless protests are here in Canada and then they make fun of Quebecers for actually getting off their asses and doing something.[/QUOTE]
The best way to tell who has a cushy life is to find the people deriding protesters.
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[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45744088]That site is complete right-wing trash. Nobody reputable appears to be picking up the story in any earnestness.
Also, even if he somehow shattered that dude's eye socket by punching him all the way inside his car, it still doesn't justify gunning a man down while his hands were raised in surrender. The protests and riots are also about a LOT more than just the shooting of one man.
But, that won't stop the chorus of hateful right-wing racists shouting that he was a thug just like Trayvon and deserved to be shot...[/QUOTE]
There's also the issue of the lack of gunpowder found in Brown's autopsy. If he was close enough to punch the officer, why was he not close enough to get sprayed with gunpowder at some point during the 6+ shots?
[URL]http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43751_Jim_Hofts_Unsourced_Claim_That_Officer_Darren_Wilson_Had_an_Orbital_Blowout_Fracture_of_the_Eye_Socket[/URL]
Surprise! Shitty right-wing blogger is completely full of shit. File photo was modified to mislead readers, no ambulance was ever called for Wilson's supposed injury, and Wilson shows no symptoms on video. Also, the crown jewel of this idiot's bullshit assertions: That he, a wingnut blogger, has exclusive access to very relevant information that supports the officer's side, i.e. information that would have been dumped to the mainstream media in a heartbeat. But, no, he would have us believe that he has super-secret exclusive sources that you won't find on the lamestream media like BBC or NPR.
If you believe that, I can get you a great price on a bridge in New Jersey.
I move that posting anything from thegatewaypundit.com as a source be an immediate bannable offense, because it has the journalistic value of Breitbart, Infowars, Glenn Beck, or randomly generated Twitter posts.
I wonder if/when we'll ever hear from the cop publicly?
[QUOTE=OvB;45745069]I wonder if/when we'll ever hear from the cop publicly?[/QUOTE]
You wont. At least I hope you wont.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;45741078]same reason people blew up over the zimmerman case and yelled racism.[/QUOTE]
First of all that guy wasn't a cop, but that whole case is a different and totally uncomparable can of worms anyways. Why did you bring it up, knowing the circumstances are completely different..?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45740784]I don't trust the source and anyone who thinks the anger of the people of Ferguson is [i]just[/i] about Michael Brown is completely fucking clueless.[/QUOTE]People are forgetting that officers are literally walking around with their guns aimed down on anyone they please. That in itself should be enough to outrage a community.
[QUOTE=LSK;45745142]First of all that guy wasn't a cop, but that whole case is a different and totally uncomparable can of worms anyways. Why did you bring it up, knowing the circumstances are completely different..?[/QUOTE]
They are both examples of people yelling racism without knowing the facts only to find out that, at best, the case wasn't nearly as clear as they thought, and at worst, completely opposite. The kicker is that all the people who jump on the racism wagon get off scot free for the massive amounts of defamation that they casually dealt out.
Why aren't there more black cops in ferguson? It would definitely help purge the racism out.
Also why are black people looting their own town?
I don't understand how people are defending the protesters, there not protesting for anything in particular except "oh a black kid got shot dead after robbing a store and punching on with a cop"
Guys, the cops in ferguson need to let anyone of different skin colour commit crimes so it's not racist.
thats what these protesters want.
[QUOTE=Subby;45745238]Why aren't there more black cops in ferguson? It would definitely help purge the racism out.[/QUOTE]
I've been thinking about this as well. Why are all the elected positions filled with white people? If the town has a majority black population, then they should be able to elect whoever they want for those spots (esp. mayor and police chief). If white people are currently in charge it's because black people either voted them in or didn't vote.
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