[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562221]I love how people post shit online that they would never fucking even think of saying if we were having this debate face-to-face.[/QUOTE]
Why would I be afraid of saying that to you in real life?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21562296]Durp. See, you can't call my arguments a ad hominem argument because again, I'm calling you an idiot, but my argument doesn't rely on you being an idiot like an ad hominem argument requires.
My argument requires that you understand the difference between a random act of violence which is perpetrated for any reason that is not a political one. a random act of violence can not be stopped statistically due to the nature of it being a random event. It's not a driven killing or driven violent act.
In Iraq, the context of a random violent act would likely put it as terrorism because in that situation it's rare that a random act of violence isn't specifically political. There's a difference, but you don't seem to understand.
Labeling the evils of the world helps fight them. You can't stop random acts, but you can fight terrorism because political goals have political steps to be taken with goals that can be stopped. a random act has no goal.[/QUOTE]
well, forgive my more [i]practical language[/i] than your pussy desk-job lingo
[editline]07:31PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;21562323]Why would I be afraid of saying that to you in real life?[/QUOTE]
well, for one, you would see that i'm not 15 :v:
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562332]well, forgive my more [i]practical language[/i] than your pussy desk-job lingo
[editline]07:31PM[/editline]
well, for one, you would see that i'm not 15 :v:[/QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with being a pussy desk job bullshit lingo you short sighted twit. Try growing up. You might not be 15, but you're acting like it with the inability to expand your already limited ideas of things.
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562332]well, for one, you would see that i'm not 15 :v:[/QUOTE]
Are you legally allowed to vote?
I'm actually 23 and I get a kick out of stupid arguments like this, especially when I role-play with a certain mentality.
[editline]07:33PM[/editline]
Thanks for humoring me
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562376]I'm actually 23 and I get a kick out of stupid arguments like this, especially when I role-play with a certain mentality.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's what you're doing, roleplaying with the brain of a 15 year old. Great copout, it's somewhat original.
Well, I'm still right in what I'm saying, so it's not a copout
Even if I'm not using all the [i]dictionary-correct[/i] terms.
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562376]I'm actually 23 and I get a kick out of stupid arguments like this, especially when I role-play with a certain mentality.
[editline]07:33PM[/editline]
Thanks for humoring me[/QUOTE]
oh for fucks sake i don't know where to begin.
1) You come here with an opinion some of us here don't agree with
2) When rebutted with logic, you resort to hypothetical situations with no real facts or basis of thought
3) When called out on your immaturity to opposing views, hint that you are an adult, and when called out on that, pass it all off as just "roleplaying" in a feeble attempt to save what little face you have left (seriously, who the fuck "roleplays" a kid in a politics discussion?)
Good game, kid.
And that just totally pisses you off, doesn't it?
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562395]Well, I'm still right in what I'm saying, so it's not a copout
Even if I'm not using all the [i]dictionary-correct[/i] terms.[/QUOTE]
Except you're not right, you're not even getting close to being right. No one gives a fuck about the definitions until you start acting like there's no level of intelligence required to fight terrorism.
Well, geeze, I guess you better get out there then!
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562451]And that just totally pisses you off, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
Not really, and I don't understand why that would. Rather, I'm just glad that eventually puberty will end for you and you will start to be able to rationally think and hopefully become a contributing member to society.
Unlike you, I don't get angry in politics arguments, because you don't actually run anything.
I'm not mad. This is the funnest thing I've done all day.
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562518]I'm not mad. This is the funnest thing I've done all day.[/QUOTE]
Denial stage
When rational discourse fails, why not just act like you were faking the whole time?
well, fuck - that wouldn't be very convincing, would it?
[editline]07:47PM[/editline]
And, in all that, I did make some good points. If you actually do want to have an "intelligent discussion", I would say don't come to Facepunch... but if you want to, quote some specific points I made before and we'll talk.
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562518]I'm not mad. This is the funnest thing I've done all day.[/QUOTE]
Rather than fight over the subjectivity of your anger, I'll feel sad that this has been the funnest part of your day. I will leave that to the experts of psychiatry though.
I think we've stopped arguing politics and moved into personal discussion (which will surely lead to personal debasement), so I'll let you have the final word. I'll just let my good friend Camron say something first:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgXF0a_Yw4[/media]
The Decider.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;21562689]Rather than fight over the subjectivity of your anger, I'll feel sad that this has been the funnest part of your day. I will leave that to the experts of psychiatry though.
I think we've stopped arguing politics and moved into personal discussion (which will surely lead to personal debasement), so I'll let you have the final word. I'll just let my good friend Camron say something first:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgXF0a_Yw4[/media][/QUOTE]
Final word: you're all fine dudes and I don't honestly give a shit what you say. Though, I would advise you not to pursue an argument with someone you think is an idiot, because he'll just keep fucking with you.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;21560422]I think he is bad because one, he has no idea what he is doing, 2. He is a communist. He will be documented as one of the worst presidents in US History until some other nut comes along.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha
It's like Glaber and CriticalThought got together and birthed a retarded baby.
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562221]Ok smartasses, let me spell it out:
You do agree that there are "terrorists" in Baghdad, right? Well guess what? Their version of random acts of violence is hiding bombs out for our boys and girls to step on. These bombs make huge explosions that kill countless others such as nearby civillians and also damage property belonging to civillians.
IF YOU DO NOT CONSIDER THAT TO BE A RANDOM ACT OF VIOLENCE equivalent to spraying an automatic weapon into a crowd of innocents, then you guys are victims to semantics.
[editline]07:26PM[/editline]
I love how people post shit online that they would never fucking even think of saying if we were having this debate face-to-face.[/QUOTE]
1) That's not a random act of violence. Organizations planting IEDs are doing so to put out a message. The message being "You can't stop us, leave or more people will die". That's a political message. A random act of violence would be me pulling out a gun and shooting someone simply for the sake of shooting someone. Had I, say, shot a government official to protest some law, or a soldier to protest a war, then that is terrorism.
2) In the context of this argument, I would probably be the first to call you an idiot to your face, but that's just me.
3) I've read this whole thread and much of your argument has resorted to the tried-and-true idiot method of cherry-picking an argument for something wrong, instead of tackling the argument as a whole and, honestly, HumanAbyss alone is on a whole 'nother intelligence level than you are. You're not winning this argument.
I think that should just about cover it.
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Damn, I hate coming in to an argument late.
Regardless, my points stand.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;21559616]So is our current one... hell this one is even worse than Bush.[/QUOTE]
not at all.
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[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21559657]haha ok.
Why do you say that? Has he started an illegal and unjustified war that's resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands? Has he conducted a massive spying program upon our country's own citizens?[/QUOTE]
To be honest mate, I find it hard to disagree. but I gotta
he hasn't started or escalated either, but he hasn't helped to stop them.
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[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;21559774]Oh cry me a river.... Ok we should of done nothing on 9/11 hell lets just sit back and call our forces back and all sip tea... And lets de-arm our ships and paint them bright pink...[/quote]
Wouldn't be a bad idea.
[QUOTE]War... It is Human nature we fight each other all the time there is a war going on somewhere and someplace on this planet and you are not crying about them?[/QUOTE]
ever heard of PTSD?
[quote]And it is even worse in someplaces where people go into villiages and rape, pillage, and brutilize everything there is about Human nature. I don't agree with the war I think it is a waste of time... But to be honest if we did nothing it would of happend all over again...[/QUOTE]
Americans are doing that regardless.
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[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;21560422]I think he is bad because one, he has no idea what he is doing, 2. He is a communist. He will be documented as one of the worst presidents in US History until some other nut comes along.[/QUOTE]
I think you're a communist
[editline]07:47AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21560656]
trotskyism, that's another story
[/QUOTE]
yo sup
[editline]07:49AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21560764]Well, I've never been impressed personally with anyone who's ever been president. But compared to the majority of our nation's executive leaders (including our current Black-American's messiah Obama), I find Bush to have definitely been one of the better ones.[/QUOTE]
what reality are you in?
I would argue you're not actually in it
[editline]07:50AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dolton;21560823]Edited. I didn't say he was good, I just said he wasn't holymotherfuckingballs on crack bad.[/QUOTE]
problem is, he was holymotherfuckingballs on crack bad
[editline]07:52AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zambies!;21561138]Inb4 jokes about. Fuck. Hey guys, if you think about it, Clinton wasn't a great president either.[/QUOTE]
surplus, peaceeee
[editline]07:54AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dolton;21561244]
Now everyone thinks us republicans are all loons who hate anything logical.[/QUOTE]
uh, Republicans do hate everything logical, that's the nature of being a republican
[editline]07:56AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21561337]What's wrong with it is that would be a WASTED FUCKING INVESTMENT. Bush set out on a mission in Iraq and Afghanistan. Was it right, was it needed? That will always be in debate. But the fact of the matter is that we're there now, like it or not. And we've spent countless time, resources, and human lives trying to finish what we set out to do. To pull out would be to quit. It's not impossible what we're trying to accomplish over there, and we're getting closer than what the media lets on to what we were initially aiming for.[/QUOTE]
What ARE you trying to accomplish over there? You're using a lot of vague terms
[editline]07:57AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21561429]Sorry to smash your whole fragile perception of reality, but the fact of the matter is that there are countless unknowns behind every political decision. It's not a conspiracy theory - it's the fact that there are more *conspiracies* (if that's what you wanna call them) going on then you will ever know existed.
And I think Obama is one of the [i]weirdest[/i] presidents we've ever had, in terms of some of the decisions he's making. He seems very much aimed at increasing governmental jurisdiction in areas it's never before in America ever even touched.[/quote]
you mean like... what every president before him has?
[quote]Actually, they're called books. And just because the concept I'm talking about here is shocking and ugly doesn't mean it's untrue.[/QUOTE]
no, it's untrue.
[editline]07:59AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21561779]Gross. Go suck some. [b]:)[/b][/QUOTE]
I'd like to suck some...
[editline]08:01AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21561945]damn. fun shit, this is. any of u wanna beer?
[editline]07:10PM[/editline]
Just how the fuck is it any different, homie?
If that's not a terrorist act, then I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
what are you even doing?
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[QUOTE=CPPNOOB;21562013]I'd like to see you do a better job, people who say Georgie was a bad president.[/QUOTE]
sure, brb, running for president.
[editline]08:04AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562376]I'm actually 23 and I get a kick out of stupid arguments like this, especially when I role-play with a certain mentality.
[editline]07:33PM[/editline]
Thanks for humoring me[/QUOTE]
kinda doubt that in my humble opinion
[editline]08:05AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562451]And that just totally pisses you off, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
yes, you're a troll, we get it. get angry, lolmylittle trap etc etc and so fourth.
[editline]08:06AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=darkheadcrab;21562518]I'm not mad. This is the funnest thing I've done all day.[/QUOTE]
you being proven wrong is funny?
you're pretty masochistic, thne
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;21559864]"Facepalm"
How old are you? 12?[/QUOTE]That's rich, coming from you.
They're gonna lower the price to $8 per hardcover copy, wow.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;21559220]"Decision Points" sounds kind of silly. I wouldn't use that after he said things like "I'm the decider."[/QUOTE]
Decider Points
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