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[url]http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-George-Lucas-Didn-t-Love-Disney-Star-Wars-7-Idea-102937.html[/url]
[quote=George Lucas]"They wanted to do a retro movie. I don’t like that. Every movie I work very hard to make them completely different, with different planets, with different spaceships, make it new."
Lucas sold LucasFilm (including the rights for Star Wars’) to Disney for $4 billion back in 2012.[/quote]
such new shiny things George Lucas brings to the table
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Lucas can suck shit.
Yep, the old man has gone insane.
It just baffles me when a man tries to change an Art style for a FUCKING PREQUEL
thank god he sold the rights. just imagine what he could've done to star wars
Apparently it didn't have enough Jar Jar Binks in it, huh.
Atleast he doesn't have rights to modify and fuck up this movie as he did with originals
Isn't the biggest criticism people have of the new movie that it's basically just aping A New Hope instead of trying to be its own thing? I'm not seeing what's so offensively wrong about his statement.
The prequels had such a good foundation but it was almost as if there wasn't a fucking editor to correct his mistakes.
At least I don't have to worry about that anymore.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;49427084]This movie was exactly how you should continue the story of Star Wars. It hit every single note it should have, the only drawback being that it played it a bit safe.
The prequels were shit and your ideas in general are shit.[/QUOTE]
And the "playing it safe" can be excuse since it was Disney's first try at it, now that it was a success they will probably play it less safe next movie.
Uh, doesn't say he hates the film, just the idea of redoing the same shit which is understandable, shitty prequels or no.
Lucas can't say anything without people trying to twist it against him, IIRC he likes the finished product.
i understand that george lucas has no integrity but what he's saying isn't completely wrong
force awakens brought almost nothing new to the table, its a very well done carbon copy of a new hope
Also your title is misleading sensationalism. He never said he hated it. In fact he enjoyed it. He just didn't like it as much as something he would have done.
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[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49427106]Uh, doesn't say he hates the film, just the idea of redoing the same shit which is understandable, shitty prequels or no.
Lucas can't say anything without people trying to twist it against him, IIRC he likes the finished product.[/QUOTE]
not even the news articles say he hated it, the OP did.
He's.. Kinda right though? You can see a conscious effort to create something new and original in every Star Wars film, even if they turn out to be total fucking wank. He always made new star ships, new Star Wars-y aliens and included new, noticeably different and original planets.
The Force Awakens does ride on the back of the OT and does really play it safe. The planets they had were Not-Tatooine, Not-Yavin, Not-Coruscant, Not-Hoth. Before I get shredded for this post, I would like to point out I thought TFA was better than any prequel and is a really solid film. But George Lucas is right. They didn't try anything new.
Also he said this:
"They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway — but if I get in there, I’m just going to cause trouble, because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore, and all I would do is muck everything up. And so I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way"
Dude has no self confidence anymore.
The prequels had a lot of neat ideas and interesting visual concepts but most of it was poorly realized. Bad CGI, often bad writing, actors unfamiliar with working entirely in front of a green screen.
I dunno why everyone picks on the chrome Nubian ships, I think they're super slick. And Grievous is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. I hate that he died like a bitch.
I think we can all agree that Ewan McGregor carried those films, though. He was so good as Obi-Wan.
[QUOTE=catbarf;49427100]Isn't the biggest criticism people have of the new movie that it's basically just aping A New Hope instead of trying to be its own thing? I'm not seeing what's so offensively wrong about his statement.[/QUOTE]
in essence it does feel rebootish.
but furthermore, at least it's not a crap film that overblazes you with shiny objects and flashing lights.
it's just a decent bit of popcorn movie in space that works and not some drivel noone feels anything about.
Yeah, Force Awakens plays it safe and that's a valid criticism of the film. Still, fans are enjoying the hell out of this movie anyway. I won't really be concerned unless episodes 8 and 9 fail to deliver new ideas.
And Lucas, when your new ideas include Jar Jar Binks, midichlorians, and centering everything around space politics, you can take your "new" ideas and shove them. Yeah episodes 1-3 were very different from each other doesn't make them good.
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I'm actually pretty indifferent with the changes Lucas made to the original trilogy, but THIS one always gets to me every single time I look at it.
[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;49427139]Yeah, Force Awakens plays it safe and that's a valid criticism of the film. Still, fans are enjoying the hell out of this movie anyway. I won't really be concerned unless episodes 8 and 9 fail to deliver new ideas.
And Lucas, when your new ideas include Jar Jar Binks, midichlorians, and centering everything around space politics, you can take your "new" ideas and shove them. Yeah episodes 1-3 were very different from each other doesn't make them good.[/QUOTE]
Space politics isn't a bad idea in and of itself. The problem was he wanted that element but didn't want to go all the way with it so that kids could follow it and he could sell toys to them, so it was a weird abortion of politics and the pacing was wrong so Palpatine suddenly went through a goth phase and nobody noticed until he was the emperor.
Could've been a really strong trilogy with a bit more work. And less Lucas.
People hate on this man way too much, can't even say anything about his own creation
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;49427121]He's.. Kinda right though? You can see a conscious effort to create something new and original in every Star Wars film, even if they turn out to be total fucking wank. He always made new star ships, new Star Wars-y aliens and included new, noticeably different and original planets.
The Force Awakens does ride on the back of the OT and does really play it safe. The planets they had were Not-Tatooine, Not-Yavin, Not-Coruscant, Not-Hoth. Before I get shredded for this post, I would like to point out I thought TFA was better than any prequel and is a really solid film. But George Lucas is right. They didn't try anything new.[/QUOTE]
originality doesn't override the movie experience that's the thing.
not everyone who sat down to watch the 7th star wars film, expected a whole new re-thought concept and become the next Alien movie.
Tbh I had low expectations after the ridiculous reboot failure trilogy. But at least now it wipes them out and proceed.
[QUOTE=AK'z;49427166]originality doesn't override the movie experience that's the thing.
not everyone who sat down to watch the 7th star wars film, expected a whole new re-thought concept and become the next Alien movie.
Tbh I had low expectations after the ridiculous reboot failure trilogy. But at least now it wipes them out and proceed.[/QUOTE]
but that's all Lucas is saying. That his films are much more original than TFA, and he's right.
Nowhere does he say he hates it.
lucas is a big weirdo that didn't seem to understand why people liked star wars in the first place and all but i honestly don't disagree with him here
i saw the force awakens for a second time because my family wanted to see it and it still felt obnoxiously safe. It's an enjoyable summer blockbuster in the same way that something like pacific rim is, but I'm glad JJ isn't going to be directing the ones coming up if the only vision he had was "make it literally exactly like the old ones with new characters!"
[QUOTE=catbarf;49427100]Isn't the biggest criticism people have of the new movie that it's basically just aping A New Hope instead of trying to be its own thing? I'm not seeing what's so offensively wrong about his statement.[/QUOTE]
Because they could have done a million different things and they chose to just remake a movie that was already good.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49427128]Also he said this:
"They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway — but if I get in there, I’m just going to cause trouble, because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore, and all I would do is muck everything up. And so I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way"
Dude has no self confidence anymore.[/QUOTE]
That's a legal matter and he would of most likely been forced off set if he tried that there. As well as with what happened in this thread, fans would be less hyped which means loss of money on opening weekend.
From what I've heard in this thread about the movie I'm glad I decided to wait until it comes out on blu-ray.
Am I the only one who didn't enjoy the new Star Wars? I was bored halfway through the film..it seemed too shallow, and as soon as Ren took off his mask, he turned from badass, to whiny pansy IMO.
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I dunno why everyone picks on the chrome Nubian ships, I think they're super slick. And Grievous is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. I hate that he died like a bitch.
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I like them too but they look really out of place with the rest of the universe's aesthetic, even within EP1.
Compare the dingy used-future gunmetal grey ships like the Blockade Runner from EP4's intro or the X-wings throughout the series to the pure chrome, streamlined Nubian ships.
Why try something new when nostagia makes all the money these days? Not criticism of the film here (which I have not seen) but is it really surprising that disney wasn't interested in new worlds or new spaceships?
[QUOTE=VanguardElite;49427193]Am I the only one who didn't enjoy the new Star Wars? I was bored halfway through the film..it seemed too shallow, and as soon as Ren took off his mask, he turned from badass, to whiny pansy IMO.[/QUOTE]
on the contrary the fact that Kylo was kind of a "pansy" was one of the things I really liked about the movie. He's trying desperately to be Vader but he's really just not, and I found that a lot more interesting than another completely generic supposed space-badass like every other sith guy we've gotten so far.
[sp]I still didn't really like how Rey just trounces him after a single force vision though, given how thoroughly he was controlling the fight until then.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Saber15;49427208]I like them too but they look really out of place with the rest of the universe's aesthetic, even within EP1.
Compare the dingy used-future gunmetal grey ships like the Blockade Runner from EP4's intro or the X-wings throughout the series to the pure chrome, streamlined Nubian ships.[/QUOTE]
I think that was the point. The Nubian ships were ultra high luxury, from a planet that wasn't a run down hellhole like most of the ones we deal with. It looked decidedly out of place on Tatooine and they made a point of that - it's why they didn't actually touch down in Mos Eisley.
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