• George Lucas Hates Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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I was quite disappointed when I saw that It was pretty much a remake. Though It was a solid film and Abe did say In an interview they had to make something that people already knew to be able to tell a different story so there's hope.
I do understand Georges criticism and I do admit that the new movie doesn't innovate to much but it's extremely loyal to the original trilogy while adding in an new tone. I agree that change is always welcome and I would like to see the universe being expanded during the next movies but George isn't exactly the greatest person when it comes to taking decisions.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49448952]They've pretty much always been incompetent as hell though, who makes a space station with tons of bottomless pits and no guard rails? Who designs a helmet that reduces your field of vision drastically for basically no reason?[/QUOTE] or puts vader in basically a life alert coffin that makes random pointless beeping sounds.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;49450612]or puts vader in basically a life alert coffin that makes random pointless beeping sounds.[/QUOTE] Having a suit that didn't beep for no reason wasn't in the space budget.
[QUOTE=Malos;49450692]Having a suit that didn't beep for no reason wasn't in the space budget.[/QUOTE] [media]https://youtu.be/FVzc20Bm8Xo[/media] 17:31
[QUOTE=ghghop;49447691]Everyone knows Snoke is Darth Plagas by this point. The scar on his face matches the description Palpatine gave when he said he assassinated his master in the prequels.[/QUOTE] Where do you get this? Palpatine never once describes what he looks like. He only talks about what he's done. There is nothing to support what you're saying.
[QUOTE=ghghop;49447691]Everyone knows Snoke is Darth Plagas by this point. The scar on his face matches the description Palpatine gave when he said he assassinated his master in the prequels[/QUOTE] This is actually my father's theory as well, though for different reasons. The evidence my father uses for the theory is that Palpatine explains that his master was dabbling with immortality, combined with the fact that the First Order seemingly snapped into power so quickly after the Empire's fall, with an extreme amount of organization at the hands of Snoke. My father's theory is that Snoke faked his death to his then-apprentice Palpatine, in a grand plan of letting Palpatine do all the work for him. He simply stood in the shadows and let Palpatine gain power in the Republic, before finally transforming it into the Empire and beginning to unify the galaxy. Snoke's original plan was to let Palpatine continue to grow and strengthen the Empire, until his apprentice finally killed him and Snoke could step back into the forefront, taking Palpatine's place and convincing Palpatine's apprentice to serve under him instead. That way, Snoke gets control of the galaxy without having to do any of the work - literally all he had to do was wait. When things went sideways, and both Palpatine [b]and[/b] his apprentice are killed, on top of the Empire falling, it forced Snoke to tip his hand and finish the job himself. So he took the remnants of the Empire, combined with the cult following he had been silently amassing around himself, and constructed the First Order, to regain the crumbling control the Empire had amassed. His original plan involved taking Palpatine's apprentice under his wing, but with Vader dead, Snoke instead decided upon Kylo Ren. After all, whose better than the apprentice of your pawn? [sp]The son of the man who killed your pawn's apprentice![/sp] That's my father's theory on who Snoke is. Needless to say I am excited to see who Snoke really is, regardless of the outcome.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;49452302]His original plan involved taking Palpatine's apprentice under his wing, but with Vader dead, Snoke instead decided upon Kylo Ren. After all, whose better than the apprentice of your pawn? [sp]The son of the man who killed your pawn's apprentice![/sp][/QUOTE] I may be completely missing the point here, [sp]but Kylo Ren is not the son of the man who killed Darth Vader. He's the son of the sister of the man who killed Darth Vader.[/sp]
if [sp]snoke really is darth plagueis[/sp] it would be a fuckin perfect, non-hamfisted way to tie back into the prequels tbh
Yeah, I didn't like the new film either. It didn't feel like a star wars film and the story wasn't that great, even the villain at the start looked threatening then suddenly became less intimidating than a sock puppet. But it will still sell because its star wars.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49452552]if [sp]snoke really is darth plagueis[/sp] it would be a fuckin perfect, non-hamfisted way to tie back into the prequels tbh[/QUOTE] Not really, what sense would it make for him to be still alive?
[QUOTE=Kljunas;49452845]Not really, what sense would it make for him to be still alive?[/QUOTE] His shtick was cheating death/using the Force to sustain or create life. He devoted all his time to it.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;49452845]Not really, what sense would it make for him to be still alive?[/QUOTE] Well, If you look at his face and much of his body you'll see scares and other signs that he's been dead. Like he's had his head slice open with a light saber and lower right side of his face look like it was decaying at some stage. - Edit He can create life. Maybe when he died he did? Just his body is sorta like his second incarnation. Same body different person.
But being aware of that Sidious would've made sure to destroy him beyond any possibility to recover. Also if he is Darth Plagueis why is he using a different name?
[QUOTE=Butthurter;49453085]not that i believe in this "snoke is darth plagueis" crap but probs the same reason youre referring to palpatine as darth sidious in the exact same post?[/QUOTE] Fair enough.
[QUOTE=Chrille;49452451]I may be completely missing the point here, [sp]but Kylo Ren is not the son of the man who killed Darth Vader. He's the son of the sister of the man who killed Darth Vader.[/sp][/QUOTE] Snoke takes what he can get. So far as I know, [sp]Luke never had children.[/sp] :v:
snoke doesnt even look like a muun
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;49456390]Snoke takes what he can get. So far as I know, [sp]Luke never had children.[/sp] :v:[/QUOTE] [sp]Rey never had parents.[/sp]
[QUOTE=erkor;49458173]snoke doesnt even look like a muun[/QUOTE] EU isn't canon, JJ has taken a good deal of inspiration from the EU, but he can scrap anything he wants.
[sp]I find it weird how all 3 of the main characters in each saga were left on a desert planet for essentially slavery. Hopefully Reys backstory will be more then "we segregated you to the desert so you dont grow up with Jedis and get the potential to be all evil~~"[/sp]
[QUOTE=boobs;49465588][sp]I find it weird how all 3 of the main characters in each saga were left on a desert planet for essentially slavery. Hopefully Reys backstory will be more then "we segregated you to the desert so you dont grow up with Jedis and get the potential to be all evil~~"[/sp][/QUOTE] It's like poetry. It Rhymes. JJ really likes his callbacks to past movies. It's literally his directing career.
[QUOTE=Chrille;49452451]I may be completely missing the point here, [sp]but Kylo Ren is not the son of the man who killed Darth Vader. He's the son of the sister of the man who killed Darth Vader.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] Darth Sidious fried Vaders life support when he force-lightninged him , though you could argue that Luke killed him by removing his helmet Vader did say he was going to die anyway so I think technically Sidious killed him[/sp] lol, literally my favorite [sp] death in star wars is when Vader throws Sidious down that shaft, the goddamn emperor, one of the most powerful force users in the universe, and he just gets manhandled and tossed like a bag of garbage, hysterical.[/sp]
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