When my dad went on range in the military they still used target designs from WW2 :v:
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51835872]We've always used blue ones.
Guess we should stop the suppression of the depressed[/QUOTE]
stop oppression of the na'vi
wasn't it enough that we blew up their tree
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51835867]Paper targets kinda suck anyway, in my opinion. Steel's a little more environmentally friendly, plus you get instant feedback.
[url]http://www.shootsteel.com/[/url]
Also, who gives a shit what color they are? The range is so heavily disconnected from real-world shooting scenarios that you may as well be comparing 8th grade algebra to college calculus. Sure, it's a good place to learn and maintain fundamentals, but you want to seek professional training for things like movement and target identification.[/QUOTE]
How can steel be more environmentally friendly than paper?
[QUOTE=RockyTV;51836008]How can steel be more environmentally friendly than paper?[/QUOTE]
Because steel can last forever assuming you're shooting the appropriate calibers for the thickness of metal. Paper targets tear apart, get blown away in the wind and need replaced multiple times every day you go shooting.
[QUOTE=RockyTV;51836008]How can steel be more environmentally friendly than paper?[/QUOTE]
Probably because you can reuse it again and again?
'because black people are literally 0,0,0 on the rgb scale right?'
this is stupid
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51835872]We've always used blue ones.
Guess we should stop the suppression of the depressed[/QUOTE]
You're shooting Smurf targets? You should be ashamed!
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51835637]Force each person to have a picture of themselves and the shooting can act as proxy self punishment for being such awful, hateful, sinful people.[/QUOTE]
Didn't you just sum up the Irish Catholic experience? :v:
Seriously though, this is daft and just such a waste of people's time - what's next, claiming that by having black icons for indicating the genders at bathrooms associates black people with people relieving themselves?
Lets get to the root of why this is stupid as fuck.
Color ink COSTS MONEY.
It's CHEAPER to print BLACK AND WHITE.
So make gun range business spend more money because a bunch of liberl arts students want to make an unhinged political statement.
Those ~artsy~ targets are retarded as fuck. Good luck practicing your aim when you can't distinguish where your shots landed from afar.
Funny because I'm pretty sure the same people that created those are hardcore anti-gun zealots.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;51835985]When my dad went on range in the military they still used target designs from WW2 :v:[/QUOTE]
We used stuff designed in the middle of the cold war :v:
[url]https://shop.actiontarget.com/content/3-d-t-full-ivan-plastic-target-green.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=upsideonion;51835996]stop oppression of the na'vi
wasn't it enough that we blew up their tree[/QUOTE]
Avatar 2: Nuclear Boogaloo
shadows are black so shooting at people who you can't see is racist
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;51836299]Lets get to the root of why this is stupid as fuck.
Color ink COSTS MONEY.
It's CHEAPER to print BLACK AND WHITE.
So make gun range business spend more money because a bunch of liberl arts students want to make an unhinged political statement.[/QUOTE]
It takes less ink to print a black target with a white silhouette than the other way around. My local range (the NRA headquarters, funnily enough) sells targets printed on cream-colored paper, with black ink surrounding the silhouette.
Anyways, thanks to the preditctable reactionary kneejerk of the entire Internet (including Facepunch), this movement is getting exactly the attention they wanted and making more people aware of the [URL="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103115000992"]ample research[/URL] showing unconscious bias in police and civilian shoot/don't shoot scenarios. Whether or not the color of silhouette has any causal relationship is entirely irrelevant, it's an art project With A Cause™ and this sort of attention is exactly what they're after.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;51833957]this armchair psychology is ridiculous and i guarantee it has no basis other than your personal feelings[/QUOTE]
There's actually some weird reported stories about people handing back weapons to assailants because in their training they always returned it to their training partners. I'd have to look into it more to see if there's more than just a few reported anecdotes though.
Now the question is (other than if I can find a large number of examples), is if this example of muscle memory reflex would be directly comparable to being more predisposed to shooting darker targets in the field after practicing with just black targets. I feel like there's generally more thought behind pulling the trigger for most people, so if it somehow has an effect, it usually won't show up.
The world is fucking dumb wow holy shit I'm racist because I shot a black target over a white one haha thanks!
[QUOTE=markfu;51837309]I feel like there's generally more thought behind pulling the trigger for most people, so if it somehow has an effect, it usually won't show up.[/QUOTE]
I strongly disagree and I think if you do some research you will find most psychological assessments of combat disagree with you as well. There is virtually no thought behind pulling the trigger in an adrenaline-soaked life-or-death situation, the fight-or-flight response is in full control and people do what they are trained to do without conscious input. It's not just muscle memory, it's the higher-thinking areas of the brain shutting down because thinking is slow and slow gets you killed.
Whether the color of a target silhouette has any effect whatsoever on those subconscious processes is another question, and I'm inclined to be skeptical, but it's not totally beyond the realm of plausibility. I'd expect the result to be less of a predisposition against certain races and more of a predisposition against certain clothing colors, though.
Reminds me of a petition a while back calling for more to be done to protect Clay Pigeons who were being shot in massive numbers...
yes lets make EVERYTHING about the oppression of black people
[QUOTE=archangel125;51834095]You know, I don't get something about FP. When I posted the thread about the fact that Flynn had been caught discussing sanctions with the Russian ambassador, it got something like 8 to 12 responses. But stuff that's about an idea that's so obviously idiotic that the only reason it's reported at all is to provoke outrage gets multiple pages and tens, if not hundreds of replies. Example: That thread about the BMA's professional standards for its staffers.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because people are sick of these insanely toxic overly-political times. I would pay for a service that would just ad-block anything to do with US politics right now.
I would rather talk about petty bullshit like this for 5 minutes just so I can escape the 2 dozen Trump threads in SH right now.
[quote]But hold your fury! NMBT isn’t asking that all dark colors be taken away (check the gif above, and [B]yes, they know that a plain white target may create problems with contrast[/B]).[/quote]
[quote]“In our study we found two main things: [B]First, people were quicker to shoot black targets with a gun, relative to white targets with a gun.[/B] And … people were more trigger-happy when shooting black targets compared to shooting white targets.”[/quote]
Gee I wonder why
[quote]They just want silhouettes that feel less reminiscent of African-American males.[/quote]
:what:
This article should come with a [I]trigger warning[/I] for people who suffer from being sane.
[QUOTE=markfu;51837309]
Now the question is (other than if I can find a large number of examples), is if this example of muscle memory reflex would be directly comparable to being more predisposed to shooting darker targets in the field after practicing with just black targets. I feel like there's generally more thought behind pulling the trigger for most people, so if it somehow has an effect, it usually won't show up.[/QUOTE]
Nope. Don't mean to be a dick, but you don't know what you're talking about. When your'e put into a situation where it's them or you and you have a gun in your hands, you're acting on instinct and training and nothing else. There is not a thought going through your head throughout the whole ordeal, you're fighting for your life and you're not going to spare an ounce of brain power thinking about the color of the guy trying to take your life.
People don't think about their prejudices when their adrenaline is pumping. It's an absolutely ridiculous thing to assume.
How about making the target Orange? it would be much easier to see from a far range
Everyone should just use NATO Figure 11s.
[t]http://www.militaryimages.net/media/my-enemy-for-22-years.25349/full[/t]
[QUOTE=BCell;51840850]How about making the target Orange? it would be much easier to see from a far range[/QUOTE]
How about you tell me why we should change it in the first place?
[QUOTE=Tuskin;51840863]Everyone should just use NATO Figure 11s.
[t]http://www.militaryimages.net/media/my-enemy-for-22-years.25349/full[/t][/QUOTE]
#stencil lives matter
Black color = / = black people, no matter how hard you think about it.
[QUOTE=BCell;51840850]How about making the target Orange? it would be much easier to see from a far range[/QUOTE]
Then people may think you want to shoot the president :v:
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