Someone Invented a Veggie Burger That Bleeds Its Own Blood. Biochemist has invented a meatless burge
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I used to know a vegan that drove a car with leather seats :v:
[QUOTE=n0cturni;46191372]It can happen. It depends on where you go, it's a good idea to get a feel of the place (or your cooking ability) before ordering rare meats. Preparation and sanitation are even more important when the food isn't cooked as much.[/QUOTE]
Ground meats can make you sick if you don't cook them all the way through because bacteria that was on the outside of the meat is scrambled all throughout the meat (because it's been ground up). With a steak on the other hand, anything that should make you sick is on the outside, so cooking the outside removes your risk for illness. Maybe it still somehow happens very occasionally, but I've never gotten sick (and I eat a lot of steak) and I've certainly never worried about scoping out the restaurant to see if it was safe enough to order medium rare.
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;46191310]you can eat a steak blue rare and be fine[/QUOTE]
In restaurants I order my steaks rare pretty much 8 of 10 times.
Have done so for the past 5 years, and haven't been sick a day.
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[QUOTE=n0cturni;46191372]It can happen. It depends on where you go, it's a good idea to get a feel of the place (or your cooking ability) before ordering rare meats. Preparation and sanitation are even more important when the food isn't cooked as much.[/QUOTE]
Yeah exactly, so it has nothing to do with rare meat being unhealthy.
You are advocating that putting something in your mouth that wasn't exposed to bacteria killing heat is dangerous.
You can eat a piece of celery that came out of a dirty kitchen, wasn't cooked and get sick from it.
Nothing to do with meat, what you're saying.
[QUOTE=Falubii;46191035]The day fake meat tastes as good as the real thing I'd have no problem eating it. That picture isn't from the article is it? Why not post the burger from the article?[/QUOTE]
I'll start eating it if it taste as good and costs less than actual meat
That won't happen for a while since lab grown food takes forever to make
The red liquid that comes out of red meat isn't blood. It's a protein called myoglobin mixed with water in the meat. "Red" meat and "white" meat both have around the same amount of actual blood in them (very small amounts), but white meat has a lot less myoglobin and therefore doesn't have the red coloring.
I'm open to the idea of vegan meat-replacements and i'll happily switch when they reach the nutritious and culinary properties of meat products. While I am a meat eater, I find nothing particularly appealing about the idea of mass slaughtering animals as a primary means of feeding an entire civilization. But right now, most vegan foods that attempt to emulate the properties of meat are overpriced garbage. A rare few have surprised me and I'd happily use them in my own kitchen but the prices are insane and there is nothing efficient about those products
Funny that in English you call that rare/medium rare, when in french you literally call it BLEEDING MEAT.
So yeah. Meat's only good when it bleeds all over your plate.
We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.
Whoa, and I thought the 'Lord of the Fries' here are pretty damn convincing.
is this only for the purpose of presentation? I was vegetarian until 18 years old, and I don't see the appeal behind this
[QUOTE=Talishmar;46191153]why[/QUOTE]
Your contemporary burger patties are often simply discs of compacted ground meat (plus LFTB aka pinkslime if you're in the US). Due to its nature, the process of mincing is allowed to create batches, and therefore patties, composed of meat from several different animals. This kind of treatment of the meat leads to a much higher probability of contamination with food-borne bacteria, the kind that can be destroyed by high temperatures. An actual steak, in contrast, is of much higher quality due to its choice cut location, minimizing the need for the trade-off between meat safety and enjoyable texture and flavor. As the psychological comsponent of the meal is usually of much more immediate concern, steak enthusiasts (myself included) are likely to recommend a balance that favors the latter side. TL;DR you can get away with not cooking steak because it's not as dirty as beef
This does not mean that all steaks are better than ground beef patties. Always cook your meats to some degree, and most importantly, know your meat providers and their policies, especially in the United States.
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source: i like steak
The thing is not that the meat bleeds, it's that the meat TASTES GOOD
That's why we eat it.
[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
So you wouldn't eat carpaccio or sushi for instance?
IIRC the red stuff that comes out of cooked Burgers isn't actually blood, it's red coloured protein.
[QUOTE=damnatus;46191054]Joke's on them, I hate everything except for well done meat :v:[/QUOTE]
Next thing you are saying is that you eat your meat with ketchup
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[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
But we are animals
If it bleeds, we can grill it.
[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
If you see meat that's giving off substantial amounts of actual blood, then the slaughterhouse it was sourced from probably needs to be closed down pronto
[QUOTE=HWECQI;46191076]It boggles my mind that you would swear off eating meat but then try so hard to make all your food look exactly and taste exactly like actual meat[/QUOTE]
Well I do love meat but even then I recognize that there's for instance big ecological concerns with it - specifically beef is extremely ecologically tasking.
As much as I disagree with not eating this ir that in sake of conviction or belief, I wouldn't have issue eating something of same culinary and nutritional value if it had further advantages.
I[QUOTE=HWECQI;46191076]It boggles my mind that you would swear off eating meat but then try so hard to make all your food look exactly and taste exactly like actual meat[/QUOTE]
Meat production as it is is massively unsustainable. As a species we have to move away from it eventually and I recognize that.
I still like the taste.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;46191089]Whats the point of eating a rare burger? A lot of burgers you eat are a mixture of the worst parts of both pork and beef. If your cooked through burger isn't tender then you're doing it wrong.
Steaks on the other hand must be cooked to a maximum of medium.[/QUOTE]
Medium [I]Rare.[/I]
[QUOTE=n0cturni;46191190]Have you ever eaten a well-done or microwave reheated steak?[/QUOTE]
Microwave reheated steak tastes awesome!
I sure am glad I'm not a snob when it comes to food.
[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
Eh, technically, we are animals. And we've come this far by eating raw or partially-cooked meats, actually cooking meat done is a relatively recent invention.
Also, it's not blood. It's protein suspended in water. Myoglobin. Not blood.
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;46192555]eating burgers rare is fuckin gross steaks i understand but have fun with your diseases if you eat a raw burger[/QUOTE]
I get all my meat from a family friend who owns a farm, and I grind my own ground beef when I make burgers.
I feel pretty safe eating burgers that are a little pink in the middle. Not mushy, mind, but pink and juicy.
That said, I wouldn't do that if I were using store-bought ground beef. That stuff gets cooked well done.
[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
It's madness says who? You? I mean, if you convinced yourself of that but fact is I think rare meat tastes fucking beautiful compared to well done, and to have it well done to me is madness...
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;46192180]The thing is not that the meat bleeds, it's that the meat TASTES GOOD
That's why we eat it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but people tend to be ignorant on issues they don't understand.
It's a human nature thing
-snoop-
Did it moo when it was alive? No? It's not burger patty makings so fuck off.
[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
As sgman91 said, it's not blood. It's myoglobin. And it's not disappearing when you cook the steak more, it's just oxidizing and turning brown.
[QUOTE=Lium;46191914]We're not animals, we should have our meat cooked properly. I'd never eat food that gave off blood, that's not right. eating anything that was once alive any semblance of raw is just madness.[/QUOTE]
Oh god you're one of those weirdo's that like to ruin steaks by ordering them well done, aren't you.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46192913]Well I do love meat but even then I recognize that there's for instance big ecological concerns with it - specifically beef is extremely ecologically tasking.
As much as I disagree with not eating this ir that in sake of conviction or belief, I wouldn't have issue eating something of same culinary and nutritional value if it had further advantages.[/QUOTE]
Most people who are swearing off meat aren't really doing it for that reason though. It's usually because of a moral thing or just plain not liking meat.
I'm not saying I'd be opposed to it if came out and was neccesary and was the same quality as regular meat, i'm more confused by why you would swear off eating meat and then go out of your way to make stuff that looks like meat anyway
like especially with the bleeding in the veggie burger in the article, if i was against meat i wouldn't really feel much more comfortable with a fake thing replicating it. The image of a bloody carcass cooking seems like what you're trying to avoid, and that's what confuses me
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[QUOTE=Elecbullet;46192936]I
Meat production as it is is massively unsustainable. As a species we have to move away from it eventually and I recognize that.
I still like the taste.[/QUOTE]
I probably shouldn't have added taste, but I'm more confused with the people that eat this stuff that don't eat meat for moral reasons, since that usually seems to be the motivation.
Who the fuck eats rare burgers. That's fucking sick.
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