• Herman Cain leading the polls
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;32962935]What's to be worried about? The republican frontrunner is going to be an unelectable idiot. That means only good things.[/QUOTE] I fear [i]some[/i] people will vote for a republican candidate (probably whoever they think will get the most votes) no matter who they are.
[QUOTE=Sumap;32966006]I fear [i]some[/i] people will vote for a republican candidate (probably whoever they think will get the most votes) no matter who they are.[/QUOTE] Well I think it's guaranteed that ~30-40% of the country will
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;32965891]I also find it funny how people are still blaming Obama for shit that was Bush's fault.[/QUOTE] Obama's been in office for three years now. The initial mess was Bush's fault, but Obama has only amplified the problem since.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32965699]And as for Ron Paul, [i]gold standard[/i], there I said everything I needed to say[/QUOTE] Some other terrible views he has that everyone seems to ignore: 1) Pro-life 2) Wants to get rid of minimum wage, the IRS, and income tax 3) Doesn't believe in evolution 4) Opposes the UN, and wants the US to end its membership I still don't understand why so many people on the Internet have a circle jerk over him.
[B]HOW DID THIS HAPPEN[/B]
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32966086]Obama's been in office for three years now. The initial mess was Bush's fault, but Obama has only amplified the problem since.[/QUOTE] Ignoring the fact that he has tried many many times to fix the situation only to have the stupid ass Republicans cock-block him at every turn. -------------------------------------------- At this current time if you vote Republican you might as well be burning your ballot and pissing on Americas future because nothing I have seen or heard from them convinces me that any of them are even the least bit competent in any regard. "A massive surplus? TAX CUTS!" "Oh shit those tax cuts caused a massive deficit what do we do!? TAX CUTS!" Have they not learned their fucking lesson? What does it take to cram in to their immensely tiny minds that tax cuts won't solve fuck all? They want to cut and slash the budgets to any and all helpful social programs, they are bigoted and close-minded bible thumpers who latch on to outdated ways of thinking. And worst of all they seem to oppose any sort of progress at all. I fail to see how anyone with any sort of common decency and a brain that isn't the size of a flea could think that any of them are worth voting for because all they've done is show why NOT to vote for them. They constantly claim that the Democratic party are un-American, far left, socialist commies and yet all they've done is oppose attempts to save and improve their country at every turn. I'm not American but I find it simply sickening and if this shit were to go on in Canada we'd throw them out on their ass. [editline]25th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Bones85;32966180]Some other terrible views he has that everyone seems to ignore: 1) Pro-life 2) Wants to get rid of minimum wage, the IRS, and income tax 3) Doesn't believe in evolution 4) Opposes the UN, and wants the US to end its membership I still don't understand why so many people on the Internet have a circle jerk over him.[/QUOTE] HE WAS/IS A MEME!
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;32966197]HE WAS/IS A MEME![/QUOTE] Forget the meme part. Many people GENUINELY like him and vote for him.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;32966197]Ignoring the fact that he has tried many many times to fix the situation only to have the stupid ass Republicans cock-block him at every turn.[/QUOTE] You are completely ignoring the fact that he had two years of unified government, and yet things still got worse.
[QUOTE=Bones85;32966180]Some other terrible views he has that everyone seems to ignore: 1) Pro-life[/quote] he's pro-life for personal reasons, but his real concern is federal mandates vs. state rights. of course pro-choice will tell you that he's bent on pushing a pro-life agenda. [quote]2) Wants to get rid of minimum wage, the IRS, and income tax[/quote] the income tax is a blatant failure and violation of natural rights because it assumes the government inherently owns a portion of your salary. [quote]3) Doesn't believe in evolution[/quote] he does believe in evolution, his words were taken out of context and posted on youtube. liberals use it as an excuse to discredit him on separate issues(liberals and conservatives have a tendency to categorize someone as the Other at a whim in order to fearmonger) [quote]4) Opposes the UN, and wants the US to end its membership[/quote] even though I was part of model united nations back in high school, I think the UN is an abject failure. I don't think the UN needs to exist, and the US does not need to heed any of its suggestions. [quote] I still don't understand why so many people on the Internet have a circle jerk over him.[/QUOTE] of course you dismiss Ron Paul. in reality he's one of the most consistent, well-learned, honest politicians around, but you have an aversion to conservatism. I think you would find that Ron Paul is the most compassionate candidate, if you realize that, in trying to provide a just society, progressive ideology ends up failing us and leaving us broke and dependent.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32966294]You are completely ignoring the fact that he had two years of unified government, and yet things still got worse.[/QUOTE] And you think those backward ass Republicans are gonna fix everything right up the moment they step into office(lol)? Don't make me laugh.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32966294]You are completely ignoring the fact that he had two years of unified government, and yet things still got worse.[/QUOTE] You are also completely ignoring the fact that Republicans in general haven't been really helpful ever since Obama came to presidency. Or that they've consistently blocked his jobs bill which would've helped save the Amurrikin economy. Or that of the current pool of candidates, they're all retarded (and a decent amount of conservatives don't like the current potentials). Or that the God-Emperor is still a valid option. [B]Non-Heretical Edit[/B] [QUOTE]he's pro-life for personal reasons, but his real concern is federal mandates vs. state rights. of course pro-choice will tell you that he's bent on pushing a pro-life agenda.[/QUOTE] Pro-life or no, people have the right to choose an abortion (though an abuse of the right is obviously going to occur, such as intentional non-usage of condoms). [QUOTE]the income tax is a blatant failure and violation of natural rights because it assumes the government inherently owns a portion of your salary.[/QUOTE] It is debatable whether or not it's a violation of your natural rights, but regardless of that, the government needs taxes in order to gain revenue, even if there are alternatives. [QUOTE]he does believe in evolution, his words were taken out of context and posted on youtube. liberals use it as an excuse to discredit him on separate issues(liberals and conservatives have a tendency to categorize someone as the Other at a whim in order to fearmonger)[/QUOTE] The point of whether or not he believes in evolution shouldn't have even been brought up (albeit it's a tense issue), yet in the same regards, your statement presumes that conservatives do not do the same. [QUOTE]even though I was part of model united nations back in high school, I think the UN is an abject failure. I don't think the UN needs to exist, and the US does not need to heed any of its suggestions.[/QUOTE] Please elaborate on why it's an abject failure. The UN may not [I]need[/I] to exist, but it does serve a greater purpose rather than having countries being subservient to the whims of another. (COMMUNISM) [QUOTE]of course you dismiss Ron Paul. in reality he's one of the [B]most consistent, well-learned, honest politicians around[/B], but you have an aversion to conservatism. I think you would find that Ron Paul is the[B] most compassionate candidate[/B], if you realize that, in [B]trying to provide a just society[/B], progressive ideology ends up failing us and leaving us broke and dependent.[/QUOTE] Oh fuck, my mountain dew. Again.
[QUOTE=Bones85;32966180]Some other terrible views he has that everyone seems to ignore: 1) Pro-life 2) Wants to get rid of minimum wage, the IRS, and income tax 3) Doesn't believe in evolution 4) Opposes the UN, and wants the US to end its membership I still don't understand why so many people on the Internet have a circle jerk over him.[/QUOTE] 1) Why is being pro life bad? I disagree with it, but calling it a "terrible view" is stupid. Some people have a illegitimate opposition to it. Some people disagree where life begins. A person who believes a fetus is a living human being, will obviously think it is murder. I do not agree, but I'm not going to call pro life a terrible view, as it will play a small role in the bigger picture of his presidency. 2) Agreed, elimination of the minimum wage, IRS, and income tax, is quite radical and very debatable. 3) Why does this matter? He has no intention of mixing religion with the government. Completely irrelevant. 4) Debatable, again. Although, I agree it is not the smartest idea. Reasons 1 and 3 are perfectly fine, you might not agree, but it doesn't make them terrible views. 2 and 4, are debatable.
Barack Romney and Mitt Obama are basically the same guy, look at their records. Except Mitt comes with a huge amount of the repub's stupid. [editline]25th October 2011[/editline] Forgot the point of my post, I hope they put up Mitt, not Herman. Herman's useless. If Mitt gets in we're sligtly better off.
[QUOTE=snuwoods;32966398]progressive ideology ends up failing us and leaving us broke and dependent.[/QUOTE] Really? Because last time I checked the guy who got you into the shit-hole you're in now was a conservative and the guy before him who handed him a record surplus was a Democrat. And you're saying that progressive ideology leaves you broke and dependent when history has clearly shown the opposite? That's hilarious.
Kind of wish Clinton could run for a 3rd term. [editline]25th October 2011[/editline] and fuck more bitches :v:
Isn't he the one with the 9-9-9 plan? I know what the basis for the next Simcity's going to be.
Didn't he change it to 9-0-9? No personal income tax for low income?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;32965007][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omOaMCFQZT0&feature=watch_response[/media][/QUOTE] "When it comes to abortion, you oppose abortion rights for women, is that correct?" "I am pro-baking from convection." "Alright, what about gay marriage?" "I think that is a decision that should be made by individual pizza places, I support traditional crust." "Do you support civil unions for gays?" "I support traditional crust." "But you oppose civil unions?" "I support traditional crust." "Let's talk about gun control, do you support any gun control?" "I support two toppings." "What about taxes?" "Have you heard about my 9-9-9 plan? If you buy three pizzas, the price of each one is just 9 dollars." [QUOTE=Lambeth;32965184]Obama doesn't have a blind hatred of muslims either[/QUOTE] THAT'S BECAUSE HE'S A SECRET MUSLIM, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND DID THE DEATH PANELS TEACH YOU NOTHING, HE'S COMING FOR YOUR GRANDPARENTS AND BABIES [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32965790]It would eliminate all the tax-loopholes in the current system at the least.[/QUOTE] Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we get rid of tax loopholes WITHOUT setting a flat tax rate? I know, completely unheard of, right?
I also want to point out that Ron Paul is a racist cunt. [quote]Texas congressional candidate Ron Paul's 1992 political newsletter highlighted portrayals of blacks as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about top political issues. Under the headline of ""Terrorist Update," for instance, Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, ""[b]If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.[/b]"[/quote] [quote]Paul, writing in his independent political newsletter in 1992, reported about unspecified surveys of blacks. ""Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action," Paul wrote. Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered ""as decent people." Citing reports that 85 percent of all black men in the District of Columbia are arrested, Paul wrote: ""Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' [b]I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,[/b]" Paul said. Paul also wrote that although ""[b]we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.[/b]"[/quote] [url]http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=1996_1343749[/url]
[QUOTE=TParlour;32962970]theres no such thing as an "unelectable idiot" [img]http://www.mikepellegrini.com/Graphics/bush_moron.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Bush is a great guy, just not very fit for president.
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;32966923]Bush is a great guy, just not very fit for president.[/QUOTE] Yeah, he's pretty good at golf during tough situations!
[QUOTE=Funcoot;32966453]1) Why is being pro life bad? I disagree with it, but calling it a "terrible view" is stupid. Some people have a illegitimate opposition to it. Some people disagree where life begins. A person who believes a fetus is a living human being, will obviously think it is murder. I do not agree, but I'm not going to call pro life a terrible view, as it will play a small role in the bigger picture of his presidency. [/QUOTE] [video=youtube;AvF1Q3UidWM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM[/video]
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;32966982]Yeah, he's pretty good at golf during tough situations![/QUOTE] Also, you have to admit, there's one thing he's better than Obama at doing: Music. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnO_FxmHes[/media]
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32966294]You are completely ignoring the fact that he had two years of unified government, and yet things still got worse.[/QUOTE] You do realize that it is basically universally agreed that if it were not for Obama's response to the recession we would have likely gone into a depression, right? Who's ignoring facts now lmao
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32966086]Obama's been in office for three years now. The initial mess was Bush's fault, but Obama has only amplified the problem since.[/QUOTE] He can't do shit since he's tied at hand & feet by republicans doing everything they can to make sure he tanks into the ground.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;32967120]You do realize that it is basically universally agreed that if it were not for Obama's response to the recession we would have likely gone into a depression, right? Who's ignoring facts now lmao[/QUOTE] That's okay, with Republicans that train is still waiting to be boarded.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;32967120]You do realize that it is basically universally agreed that if it were not for Obama's response to the recession we would have likely gone into a depression, right? Who's ignoring facts now lmao[/QUOTE] Do you have proof?
[QUOTE=Miskav;32962975]I've said it before, I'll say it again; There is no way a republican will become president, and there will be no republican majority after the shit they've been pulling. I'll bet 30 dollars and my first born child on that.[/QUOTE] Definitely this. The chance of Obama not winning a second term have got to be infinitesmally small.
Man, I wish I could give a reasonable opinion on all this, but I really don't know anything about politics. All I can really say is I like Herman Cain because he seems like he knows what he's doing, even though I know I actually have no idea. Sad to think that many Americans have the same opinion for the same blind reason and don't even realize it.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32967332]Do you have proof?[/QUOTE] Yeah, the fact that you aren't in one when you were clearly headed for one.
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