• EA gets multi-year Star Wars license; DICE, Visceral, and Bioware making Star Wars games.
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[QUOTE=bobsynergy;40552040]Battlefront a Battlefield clone? Obsidian make a MMO for no reason and Bioware should make Kotor 3? Do you have any good opinions?[/QUOTE] Battlefront is very similar to previous battlefield titles. He never said MMO, he said RPG, since when does RPG mean MMO? Do you have an good reason to be an asshole for no reason?
Well looks like they are refusing already to make any Star Wars Wii U games now by claiming it can't handle the Frostbyte engine (Which is an outright lie): [img]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/Starmenclock/StarWarsWiiUFrostBite_zpsd6b3b89c.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Fangz;40554138]Well looks like they are refusing already to make any Star Wars Wii U games now by claiming it can't handle the Frostbyte engine (Which is an outright lie): [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/Starmenclock/StarWarsWiiUFrostBite_zpsd6b3b89c.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Acutaly, it's not an outright lie. The WiiU has 2Gb of ram, 1 dedicated to game the other 1GB system functions. And 1.23 GHZ IBM 2-core microprocessor. From someone who works in the gaming QA industry and worked with DICE on several projects in the past, if they say their engine isn't viable on a platform, it isn't.
[QUOTE=Fangz;40554138]Well looks like they are refusing already to make any Star Wars Wii U games now by claiming it can't handle the Frostbyte engine (Which is an outright lie): [/QUOTE] How exactly is it an outright lie? I'd believe the technical director for Frostbite before any other person on the internet.
[QUOTE=Delta616;40554206]Acutaly, it's not an outright lie. The WiiU has 2Gb of ram, 1 dedicated to game the other 1GB system functions. And 1.23 GHZ IBM 2-core microprocessor. From someone who works in the gaming QA industry and worked with DICE on several projects in the past, if they say their engine isn't viable on a platform, it isn't.[/QUOTE] What is it with nintendo and making suboptimal consoles these days.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;40550864][t]http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Battlefront-3.jpg[/t] ?????[/QUOTE] Could i have wallpaper of that?
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;40554282]What is it with nintendo and making suboptimal consoles these days.[/QUOTE] They've always been about making the cheapest console so it can be affordable to the majority of people so it's not too surprising specs took a toll.
[QUOTE=Maxjes;40554211]How exactly is it an outright lie? I'd believe the technical director for Frostbite before any other person on the internet.[/QUOTE] He has has a history of bashing and lying about Nintendo. He claimed that Crysis 3 was cancelled because 'it wasn't powerful enough' for it to handle, until the actual developers stood up and said it wasn't true.
[SUP][SUP]Bioware did make a good Star Wars game that one time... [/SUP][/SUP]But yeah, fuck everything Bioware related and such.
[QUOTE=Delta616;40554206]Acutaly, it's not an outright lie. The WiiU has 2Gb of ram, 1 dedicated to game the other 1GB system functions. And 1.23 GHZ IBM 2-core microprocessor. From someone who works in the gaming QA industry and worked with DICE on several projects in the past, if they say their engine isn't viable on a platform, it isn't.[/QUOTE] The Wii U is able to run Cry Engine 3 and Epic even said it'll run Unreal 4 even though it wasn't their main focus when making the engine. If Frostbite 2 or 3 can't run on the Wii U it's more than just the console that's the problem.
[QUOTE=Makol;40554451]The Wii U is able to run Cry Engine 3 and Epic even said it'll run Unreal 4 even though it wasn't their main focus when making the engine. If Frostbite 2 or 3 can't run on the Wii U it's more than just the console that's the problem.[/QUOTE] You're right, it's more than just the console that's the problem, FB2 and 3 engine requires more than the WiiU has to offer. Cryengine 3 and Unreal 4 were built with a better range of compatibility.
was not a fan of battlefield 3. not really sure how DICE could pull off battlefront 3, if they decide to develop it
[QUOTE=Delta616;40554468]You're right, it's more than just the console that's the problem, FB2 and 3 engine requires more than the WiiU has to offer. Cryengine 3 and Unreal 4 were built with a better range of compatibility.[/QUOTE] Also the Wii U's processor is a 1.24GHz Tri-core, not the best thing ever but better than what you're saying it has. I'm not going to defend the Wii U and poor excuse for specs since it is a fairly weak system, but it's still somewhat better than the current gen consoles. It's DICE's fault for not making their engine as flexible as Crytek and Epic made their engines.
[QUOTE=Fangz;40554424]He has has a history of bashing and lying about Nintendo. He claimed that Crysis 3 was cancelled because 'it wasn't powerful enough' for it to handle, until the actual developers stood up and said it wasn't true.[/QUOTE] Johan Andersson never said anything of the sort, as he is the Technical Director of the Frostbite engine and is in no way affiliated with Crytek.
[QUOTE=Delta616;40554496]Johan Andersson never said anything of the sort, as he is the Technical Director of the Frostbite engine and is in no way affiliated with Crytek.[/QUOTE] I thought it was some guy from EA who said that, not this Johan guy.
[QUOTE=Makol;40554486]Also the Wii U's processor is a 1.24GHz Tri-core, not the best thing ever but better than what you're saying it has. I'm not going to defend the Wii U and poor excuse for specs since it is a fairly weak system, but it's still somewhat better than the current gen consoles. It's DICE's fault for not making their engine as flexible as Crytek and Epic made their engines.[/QUOTE] Considering this is the first total engine I believe DICE have built, it's not really that surprising it sucks in a few places. Though saying the WiiU can't handle the current Frostbite seems a bit off, seeing as the XBox 360 and PS3 both ran it to some extent for BF3. It didn't look particularly great, but it ran.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;40554507]Though saying the WiiU can't handle the current Frostbite seems a bit off, seeing as the XBox 360 and PS3 both ran it to some extent for BF3. It didn't look particularly great, but it ran.[/QUOTE] Thank you for being a voice of sanity. I have no idea why people still defend EA when it comes to these manipulative decisions.
[QUOTE=Makol;40554486]Also the Wii U's processor is a 1.24GHz Tri-core, not the best thing ever but better than what you're saying it has. I'm not going to defend the Wii U and poor excuse for specs since it is a fairly weak system, but it's still somewhat better than the current gen consoles. It's DICE's fault for not making their engine as flexible as Crytek and Epic made their engines.[/QUOTE] The problem here is CPU, power, the WiiU simply doesn't have enough dedicated processing power to acceptably handle the engine, it's not DICE's fault for anything. This is besides the fact that this is their first engine that was made inhouse, and their market was never on Nintendo to being with.
iirc the Wii U's cpu is better than the 360's So if the 360 can run it then the Wii U could, I would assume.
[QUOTE=Makol;40554537]iirc the Wii U's cpu is better than the 360's So if the 360 can run it then the Wii U could, I would assume.[/QUOTE] Nope [URL]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/wiiu-xbox360-ps3,19444.html[/URL] Wish it was the case though, I'd love to see a Nintendo console that out performs Xbox and Play Station.
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[QUOTE=Fangz;40554560]Well the both the Xbox and PS3 have single core 3.2 GHZ. Are you saying that 3.72 GHZ is worse than 3.2? [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] That is per Core, comparing Tri-core and Single core isn't the same thing.[/QUOTE] The CPUs in the 360 and PS3 aren't technically single cores. The PS3 Cell is weird as fuck and I still don't quite know how it can be compared to normal CPU output properly, and the 360 CPU is actually tri-core.
[QUOTE=Fangz;40554560]Well the both the Xbox and PS3 have single core 3.2 GHZ. Are you saying that 3.72 GHZ is worse than 3.2? That is per Core, comparing Tri-core and Single core isn't the same thing.[/QUOTE] Last time I checked the Xbox that's been sitting here doing nothing for quite some time has a 3.2 GHz PowerPC [B]Tri-Core Xenon[/B] CPU. VS the Wii U's 1.24 GHz Tri core CPU (Applogies for my misinformation earlier, I said dual core.) But yes, I am saying the Wii U's CPU is worse the the Xbox 360's Xenon processor, because that's a fact and the main reason why FB2-3 is not viable on the Wii U.
[QUOTE] EA will develop and publish new Star Wars titles for a core gaming audience, spanning all interactive platforms and the most popular game genres[/QUOTE] Oh god, please no. [QUOTE=Delta616;40550891]All because they weren't involved with Mass Effect 3 doesn't mean they still aren't with Bioware, Bioware consists of 3 different dev teams these days, with a staff of 800+ Employees. My point being there still is talent in Bioware.[/QUOTE] You're quite adamant that Bioware can still make good games, why is that?
Devs can't seem to make up their mind about the Wii U's performance. Some are saying it's better, some are saying it's slightly worse, and some are saying it's pretty much the same as current gen. Not really sure who to believe at this point. But I can say I am enjoying my time with the Wii U so far. [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] Also, [url]https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/274182672652308480[/url]
[QUOTE=Aboose;40554628]Oh god, please no. You're quite adamant that Bioware can still make good games, why is that?[/QUOTE] This is why: [QUOTE=Delta616;40554206]From someone who works in the gaming QA industry and worked with DICE on several projects in the past.[/QUOTE] He is on payroll.
[QUOTE=Fangz;40554679]This is why:[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, what exactly is me having some faith left in bioware and me working in the video game QA industry where I have seen certain things running poorly on the WiiU in the past due to it's weakness (It's CPU) have to do with his question?
[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;40550619]Republic Commando 2 on the Frostbite engine? mmmmm[/QUOTE] I'd kill for that game.
[QUOTE=Fangz;40554679]He is on payroll.[/QUOTE] I haven't worked alongside an EA project in nearly 7 months, and all because they wrote my checks for a period of time won't change make me alter my opinion, or the Wii U/FB 2-3 compatibility issues. No need to be a jackass. [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Aboose;40554628] You're quite adamant that Bioware can still make good games, why is that?[/QUOTE] Because I believe there is much talent left within Bioware, it is just spread too thin between sub divisions.
[QUOTE=Aboose;40554628] You're quite adamant that Bioware can still make good games, why is that?[/QUOTE] Because ME3 was still a fun game at its core.
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