• Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
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[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974062]You are fucking paranoid. So you see a guy in your house, you instantly don't regonise... you fucking kill him. So a guy goes to steal your TV, that's punishable by death?[/QUOTE] I don't think he, or anyone would just shoot him immediately, if he had a gun out, then yeah, why not? If he was taking his TV, he'd be "DROP IT" and if he tries to run, he'd shoot for his legs, people use logic in these situations, no one murders someone over a TV.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974062]You are fucking paranoid. So you see a guy in your house, you instantly don't regonise... you fucking kill him. So a guy goes to steal your TV, that's punishable by death?[/QUOTE] If I saw a guy I didn't know in my house, I'd draw a gun on him and demand him to leave. People you don't know don't typically walk into your house like that with good intentions.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;21974075]Yeah, that's a pretty stupid fucking comparison Gmodfan. Alcohol is relatively easy to produce and addictive. It's the perfect way to raise money for gang operations. Guns are pieces of metal that can't be mass produced without advanced hardware.[/QUOTE] Shotguns are easily manufactured.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974055]Do you realize the crime, black markets, and smuggling groups that would result from gun banning? It'd be almost as bad as Al Capone.[/QUOTE] they exist in countries like Columbia without any regulation there's not that big of a blackmarket for whole arsenals in places like Scandanavia. You're running off speculation and things that have nothing to do with anything... as opposed to facts?
Also, you're missing the points that once people have no guns, people will still kill people. And only the criminals will have guns as well. Using your logic, might as well have knife control, blunt instrument control, and hell, why not, fist control. Now you can't kill anyone! But wait, you can still kick someone to death! Let's get rid of legs too, so that no one can kill each other! Having a protectionist mindset gets you nowhere in life. If anything, the governments can now have absolute control over the people and they can't do a damn thing about it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;21974075]Yeah, that's a pretty stupid fucking comparison Gmodfan. Alcohol is relatively easy to produce and addictive. It's the perfect way to raise money for gang operations. Guns are pieces of metal that can't be mass produced without advanced hardware.[/QUOTE] It's not a bad comparison, he was making the point that making popular objects illegal is bad, because it'll give gangs a source of income. And since guns are something they can get easily, they'll make a killing.
[QUOTE=radioactive;21974070]That's not because of everyone in the country owning a gun.[/QUOTE] Did I mention every able-bodied man over 18 has elite Swiss military training?
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21973630]this is why ur wrong nah nah nah! [editline]01:16AM[/editline] so murder, crime and war is good? what fucking world are you living in [editline]01:17AM[/editline] you don't need to hunt.[/QUOTE] O god not this guy again
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974083]If I saw a guy I didn't know in my house, I'd draw a gun on him and demand him to leave. People you don't know don't typically walk into your house like that with good intentions.[/QUOTE] that's reasonable. But that psycho saying how he'll shoot on sight, is not. well, i have drunk friends stumble into my apartment all the time, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974083]If I saw a guy I didn't know in my house, I'd draw a gun on him and demand him to leave. People you don't know don't typically walk into your house like that with good intentions.[/QUOTE] I'd question the man about his motives, if he was poor and needed to sell stuff to survive, I'd talk to him about it from the safety of my stair case, then I'd give him £20 to go away.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974088]they exist in countries like Columbia without any regulation there's not that big of a blackmarket for whole arsenals in places like Scandanavia. You're running off speculation and things that have nothing to do with anything... as opposed to facts?[/QUOTE] That's because the black market in Columbia is for cocaine. I like how you keep going off on totally unrelated subjects in a futile attempt to salvage what's left of your already-non-existent reasoning.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21974100]O god not this guy again[/QUOTE] i think he's trolling tbh
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974062]You are fucking paranoid. So you see a guy in your house, you instantly don't regonise... you fucking kill him. So a guy goes to steal your TV, that's punishable by death?[/QUOTE] That's damn correct, he had to get through a locked door, knew he was going through a locked door, or break through a window. Either of those and I instantly assume he is a criminal, in my house, so yes. If he doesn't resist, I will order him to try to wait for police. He runs and he gets a bullet in the leg, he keeps running and he gets another. He tries to kill me and he gets it in the brain. So yes, I am a cold hearted bastard. Any criminal dumb enough to not expect to get shot while breaking into a house, needs to be shot for being stupid.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21973989]Ho Chi Minh, Lets assume you're right, and that guns are bad and should be banned unequivacally. How do we go about this? Do we take them all away forcibly? Do you not see the problem? Do you ask for them politely? Do you not see the problem? What do you do? You can't very well leave them in that state can you? Do you not see the problem with this? Guns will not be able to be removed by just a ban. Criminals aren't going to follow a gun law just because it's a gun law, suddenly, all of those legal guns become illegal and a black market/prohibition situation is set up, and things are worse than before.[/QUOTE] Still waiting for you to respond.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21974100]O god not this guy again[/QUOTE] oh, fuck, right, I'm a troll sorry everyone, i love guns, i remember, Prefumly, the infallible 13 year old who sleeps with a pistol under is his pillow is here. my cover is blown!
[QUOTE=radioactive;21974070]That's not because of everyone in the country owning a gun.[/QUOTE] Yes it is, why would someone want to rob a house with a gun in it? That's a suicide mission, it's like running into a cop's house.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21974100]O god not this guy again[/QUOTE] I think I agree with him on most issues. He's Trotsky by the way. But I just can't agree with him on his views about guns.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;21974109]i think he's trolling tbh[/QUOTE] We hope so
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974055]Do you realize the crime, black markets, and smuggling groups that would result from gun banning? It'd be almost as bad as Al Capone.[/QUOTE] Not really. Gun smuggling doesn't work on a large scale like alcohol. See, guns are physical objects that you can usually only expect to sell to people once in a prohibited environment. Alcohol is a liquid that you can sell to a single person multiple times, that they don't carry around with them and you don't have to import from out of the country.
[QUOTE=radioactive;21974107]I'd question the man about his motives, if he was poor and needed to sell stuff to survive, I'd talk to him about it from the safety of my stair case, then I'd give him £20 to go away.[/QUOTE] If he was the kind of guy who has "10 children to feed and no job", I'd have sympathy on him, give him a few pounds, and direct him to a place for homeless help. However, if he pulls out a knife on me and demands I give him my stuff and refuses to listen to me, I don't think I'd want to help him.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974108]That's because the black market in Columbia is for cocaine. I like how you keep going off on totally unrelated subjects in a futile attempt to salvage what's left of your already-non-existent reasoning.[/QUOTE] Did you start taking medication or something? You're actually sounding rational and informed.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21974111]Still waiting for you to respond.[/QUOTE] Gun control, and in the future it'll be gone.
[QUOTE=JDK721;21974118]I think I agree with him on most issues. He's Trotsky by the way. But I just can't agree with him on his views about guns.[/QUOTE] I figured it was trotsky. This whole guns deal, Trotsky really needs to learn his shit on.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974095]Did I mention every able-bodied man over 18 has elite Swiss military training?[/QUOTE] That's not a factor into it. It's population per area. It's not a dense country, so people are more at ease and not in a large concrete jungle environment, thus not going mad and having less of a poor/rich split causing tensions.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974131]Gun control, and in the future it'll be gone.[/QUOTE] I FUCKING LOVE MAGIC. Yeah...
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974116]oh, fuck, right, I'm a troll sorry everyone, i love guns, i remember, Prefumly, the infallible 13 year old who sleeps with a pistol under is his pillow is here. my cover is blown![/QUOTE] What happened to your other account? Can look with search down and all
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;21974123]Not really. Gun smuggling doesn't work on a large scale like alcohol. See, guns are physical objects that you can usually only expect to sell to people once in a prohibited environment. Alcohol is a liquid that you can sell to a single person multiple times, that they don't carry around with them and you don't have to import from out of the country.[/QUOTE] You have to import cocaine from out of the country, and they make millions off of that shit.
[QUOTE=Bepo5;21974110]That's damn correct, he had to get through a locked door, knew he was going through a locked door, or break through a window. Either of those and I instantly assume he is a criminal, in my house, so yes. If he doesn't resist, I will order him to try to wait for police. He runs and he gets a bullet in the leg, he keeps running and he gets another. He tries to kill me and he gets it in the brain. So yes, I am a cold hearted bastard. Any criminal dumb enough to not expect to get shot while breaking into a house, needs to be shot for being stupid.[/QUOTE] Yeah, or he breaks into your house while you aren't there like a proper criminal, steals your stereo AND your boomstick and leaves you to your petulant fantasies of power.
[QUOTE=Bepo5;21974110]That's damn correct, he had to get through a locked door, knew he was going through a locked door, or break through a window. Either of those and I instantly assume he is a criminal, in my house, so yes. If he doesn't resist, I will order him to try to wait for police. He runs and he gets a bullet in the leg, he keeps running and he gets another. He tries to kill me and he gets it in the brain. So yes, I am a cold hearted bastard. Any criminal dumb enough to not expect to get shot while breaking into a house, needs to be shot for being stupid.[/QUOTE] you're a lunatic.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974131]Gun control, and in the future it'll be gone.[/QUOTE] What's going to happen to all of those guns? They'll still be there. They won't vanish in a magic cloud of fairy dust in your utopian dreamland.
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