[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21974394]I personally never saw the point of assault rifles, fully automatic rifles spell danger in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
they're semi-automatic.. only people such as collectors who pay a shitload of money have fully automatic weapons.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974384]this is so fucking superficial, speculatory and just plain ambiguous to answer.[/QUOTE]
Let me simplify that for you.
If you are getting robbed or there's a stranger in your house, what would be your plan of action?
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974384]this is so fucking superficial, speculatory and just plain ambiguous to answer.[/QUOTE]
I'm well-learned in psychology.
Your accusing, extremely offensive-stanced, sudden remark indicates you're nervous about losing the argument and are responding with a hooked comment in order to spin us around back into the argument to continue more in the futile hopes of regaining your lost ground.
Or maybe you're just trolling.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974403]I'm not talking about criminals, I'm talking about your average citizens who come home after work and shoot up the family with the registered gun.
Or the 3 year old son who shoots his sister with daddy's pistol.
Shit like that.[/QUOTE]
How often does the first one happen
And that's why you keep your guns locked up, that's a totally different problem
[QUOTE=The golden;21974403]I'm not talking about criminals, I'm talking about your average citizens who come home after work and shoot up the family with the registered gun.[/QUOTE]
there will always be bad apples..
[QUOTE=The golden;21974403]Or the 3 year old son who shoots his sister with daddy's pistol.
Shit like that.[/QUOTE]
the gun owner is negligent and is charged then for leaving a weapon accessible to a minor.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21974417]How often does the first one happen
And that's why you keep your guns locked up, that's a totally different problem[/QUOTE]
They're not much use to you if they're locked up.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974403]I'm not talking about criminals, I'm talking about your average citizens who come home after work and shoot up the family with the registered gun.[/quote]
Those people are typically insane, drunk, or on drugs. Guns have nothing to do with it.
[quote]Or the 3 year old son who shoots his sister with daddy's pistol.
Shit like that.[/QUOTE]
The children aren't criminals because they don't know what guns are. It's the dumbass parents who let them get a hold of guns that are at fault, but they're not criminals.
yes i did.
[QUOTE=radioactive;21965552]But a person can take one of these guns and shoot up a school.[/QUOTE]
Using that logic we shouldn't have forks or knives or anything.
Just cause a mentally ill fucktard abuses something doesn't mean we should ban it, nevermind that if you ban guns that criminals will still get them.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21974414]I'm well-learned in psychology.
Your accusing, extremely offensive-stanced, sudden remark indicates you're nervous about losing the argument and are responding with a hooked comment in order to spin us around back into the argument to continue more in the futile hopes of regaining your lost ground.
Or maybe you're just trolling.[/QUOTE]
you gave 4 ambiguous options to a vague and speculative anecdote...
what part of this went over your head, Freud?
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974454]you gave 4 ambiguous options to a vague and speculative anecdote...
what part of this went over your head, Freud?[/QUOTE]
You could've answered the damn question to a plausible scenario that happens more often than you think.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974454]you gave 4 ambiguous options to a vague and speculative anecdote...
what part of this went over your head, Freud?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;21974411]Let me simplify that for you.
If you are getting robbed or there's a stranger in your house, what would be your plan of action?[/QUOTE]
Why don't you answer my question, instead?
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21974444]Using that logic we shouldn't have forks or knives or anything.
Just cause a mentally ill fucktard abuses something doesn't mean we should ban it, nevermind that if you ban guns that criminals will still get them.[/QUOTE]
Bit late on that one aren't you?
[QUOTE=The golden;21974469]Why the fuck does the dad even need a gun in the first place?
Seriously, what the fuck? Most countries have guns banned and things work just fine.[/QUOTE]
To defend from potential robbers? Not everyone lives in a crimeless area like you apparently
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21974444]Using that logic we shouldn't have forks or knives or anything.
Just cause a mentally ill fucktard abuses something doesn't mean we should ban it, nevermind that if you ban guns that criminals will still get them.[/QUOTE]
forks don't kill 100,000's of people maliciously.
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[QUOTE=Flitchaye;21974468]Why don't you answer my question, instead?[/QUOTE]
threaten
[QUOTE=The golden;21974469]Why the fuck does the dad even need a gun in the first place?
Seriously, what the fuck? Most countries have guns banned and things work just fine.[/QUOTE]
Back to Switzerland.
Every able-bodied male 18 and up has military training and a military-issued gun and ammo at home.
Crime rates are almost non-existent in Switzerland.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974469]Why the fuck does the dad even need a gun in the first place?
Seriously, what the fuck? Most countries have guns banned and things work just fine.[/QUOTE]
self defense? collection? target practice? maybe he's a police officer?
WHY he has the gun is irrelevant. As long as he is using it for lawful purposes and is allowed to possess firearms then he can have a fucking gun if he wants. He shouldn't have it accessible to a minor though.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974469]Why the fuck does the dad even need a gun in the first place?
Seriously, what the fuck? Most countries have guns banned and things work just fine.[/QUOTE]
Ok, how the FUCK do you get rid of guns? Banning em won't do shit. Heard of prohibition? Guess not.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974482]forks don't kill 100,000's of people maliciously.[/quote]
Listen:
[B]Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. Guns were meant as a means of more effective military combat and security, NOT FOR MALICIOUSLY MURDERING PEOPLE.[/B]
[QUOTE=The golden;21974469]Why the fuck does the dad even need a gun in the first place?
Seriously, what the fuck? Most countries have guns banned and things work just fine.[/QUOTE]
Daddy needs a gun to protect his family.
As for the latter point, most first-world countries in Europe and the like aren't situated to chaotic cartel zones with heavy drug production. And don't forget the Mafias that are rampant in Europe, either.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974509]My area is far from crimless, no area is crimeless. But it's no worse than an area where guns are legal.
So by your logic, the presence of firearms should lower crimerate? I think the fact of the matter remains, it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Too bad it does, and it makes sense that it would.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21974496]Ok, how the FUCK do you get rid of guns? Banning em won't do shit. Heard of prohibition? Guess not.[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to see what it's like to argue with someone who starts out with decent ideas ("Sensible Reasons I Think Guns Should Be Banned") but turns them into utter shit.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974509]My area is far from crimless, no area is crimeless. But it's no worse than an area where guns are legal.
So by your logic, the presence of firearms should lower crimerate? I think the fact of the matter remains, it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Correlation does not imply causation. Don't pass it off as a fact.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974482]
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threaten[/QUOTE]
What if he doesn't listen to you and instead carries on his happy little robbing spree? If you don't have a weapon to back up your claims, he's as happy as a clam.
[QUOTE=The golden;21974509]My area is far from crimless, no area is crimeless. But it's no worse than an area where guns are legal.
So by your logic, the presence of firearms should lower crimerate? I think the fact of the matter remains, it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Guns don't always lower crime rates, but I'd feel a hell of a lot more secure knowing if a guy with a gun comes in my house, I have means of retaliation.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21974496]Ok, how the FUCK do you get rid of guns? Banning em won't do shit. Heard of prohibition? Guess not.[/QUOTE]
This. There are 250 million guns in america. Ban them and they all go straight to the black market who will be massively strengthened by the ban, who will then sell it to whoever has the money to pay them. Likely leading back to gangs and causing a ton of violence from the black markets, and all criminals now know that legal citizens have no way to defend themselves, causing them to become bolder and have a large increase in home invasions.
[QUOTE=Bepo5;21974537]This. There are 250 million guns in america. Ban them and they all go straight to the black market who will be massively strengthened by the ban, who will then sell it to whoever has the money to pay them. Likely leading back to gangs and causing a ton of violence from the black markets, and all criminals now know that legal citizens have no way to defend themselves, causing them to become bolder and have a large increase in home invasions.[/QUOTE]
It will also turn MILLIONS of people into criminals, making the government spend BILLIONS of dollars keeping them behind bars, and not to mention it will cause civil unrest since Americans pride themselves on their guns
Obama should be awarded gun salesman of the year for every year in office. Seems people keep entertaining thoughts of all guns suddenly being banned by him. Same thing happened when Clinton got elected and re-elected.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;21974525]What if he doesn't listen to you and instead carries on his happy little robbing spree? If you don't have a weapon to back up your claims, he's as happy as a clam.[/QUOTE]
But you could use polite diplomacy! "Sir, I demand you to drop down those propercial items of my possession this instant - ah, ah, no, no! Put that television set down right now you silly law-breaker! Don't make me write out a long governmental note of complaints expressing my immense dissastisfaction with your behaviour!"
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[QUOTE=The golden;21974540]If people kill people, why give them guns to assist them?[/QUOTE]
Because not every person is a murderer. Some people use guns for the right reasons, like defense and peace-of-mind.
[QUOTE=Ho Chi Minh;21974482]threaten[/QUOTE]
lol threaten
do you think some robber who just broke into your house is going to give a fuck about words?
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