• Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
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[QUOTE=aydin690;22057183]So, you're telling me that the highest rate of violent crimes in the world is not because of that one trizillion guns that you guys have?[/QUOTE] lol, we don't have the highest violent crime rate in the world. Get your head out of your ass.
[QUOTE=aydin690;22059338]If NOBODY other than the military has guns, then it would eventually become harder and harder for them to get their hands on some guns.[/QUOTE] Allowing the second amendment is a good idea, If we were to be invaded by another country, they would be fighting both the military and civilians. A good example of this was Vietnam, we wouldnt even invade mainland Japan because they would arm every citizen.
[QUOTE=aydin690;22057183]So, you're telling me that the highest rate of violent crimes in the world is not because of that one trizillion guns that you guys have?[/QUOTE] god i hope you lose your gold for this stupid statement not that gold status matters much. i just want some leverage damnit
[QUOTE=aydin690;22059338]If NOBODY other than the military has guns, then it would eventually become harder and harder for them to get their hands on some guns.[/QUOTE] and how, exactly, would you get to this situation. 250 million guns don't just go poof because of a law.
[QUOTE=aydin690;22057183]So, you're telling me that the highest rate of violent crimes in the world is not because of that one trizillion guns that you guys have?[/QUOTE] Yes, America is totally a gangland and I risk getting shot up on a daily basis trying to do daily activities. Seriously, I have never seen gun crimes here beyond gang on gang violence, and even then, that's [B]rare[/B]. (Like, maybe once every two-three years rare.)
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;22076297]and how, exactly, would you get to this situation. 250 million guns don't just go poof because of a law.[/QUOTE] gun buys you give us your gun, we give you something of value
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22076433]gun buys you give us your gun, we give you something of value[/QUOTE] Oh, right. 250 million guns will just be bought by the federal government. Most people who buy guns want to [I]keep[/I] them, y'know?
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22076433]gun buys you give us your gun, we give you something of value[/QUOTE] Let's assume that the U.S. buys them for an average of $600 dollars per gun. That's about the average price, though guns range from $300 to up to several thousand dollars. That's 150 billion right there. Not to mention the billions more it would cost them to take guns that people refused to give up. Then the billions that would be lost in taxes from people buying guns. Then the billions earned/spent by the companies that make the guns. Then, consider the billions that would be earned by criminal organizations by the newly created black market. You're talking about more then a trillion dollars lost simply because "guns are bad, they make die".
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22076433]gun buys you give us your gun, we give you something of value[/QUOTE] Still missing the point. Removing legal firearms only removes legal firearms. As a result, that doesn't do shit to hamper armed crime, and infact, may only serve to increase it.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22076433]gun buys you give us your gun, we give you something of value[/QUOTE] I wish the world could be perfect too.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22061094] Fourth, there's alot of negative connotations with the name 'Hussein'. Saddam Hussein killed several hundred thousand, possibly a few million of, his own people. Using biological weapons. For oil. [/QUOTE] about the other generalizations, you're damn right. This one pissed me off. That's not even a real reason. she's a drunk as piss alabaman bitch sitting on a fucking scooter and she thinks she's got it all down. "he's in league with the muslims. I never voted for him because his name is Barrack Hussein Obama! and you shouldn't either. he'll screw us all over. he's probably a muslim too. and i think he's arabian" WHAT!? wait, here she is. don't tell me that America hasn't at least got a few 5- 10 million idiots in the same box. you are, after all 296 million people over there as of.... some time wheneer... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs[/media] as for the rest of the discussion. it's too long ago, i don't have the energy. but you see the other three stereotypes on TV. as we know, that means that SOME do exist, doesn't it? i mean, interviews aren't acted out by hired actors most of the time are they? NO! don't get this wrong though i'm not dumb enough to think they make up any kind of majority. except for Mr. and Mrs. Bible. so, you and your neighboors are running a mini armsrace? ofcourse no one shoots eachother over trivialities. but you better realize that your own gun can well be turned against you if you don't keep it right. now, i've gotta go celebrate my birthday. please excuse my disconnected answer, i'm kinda not here...
Palin needs to be banned from speaking.
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[QUOTE=Bomimo;22079036] now, i've gotta go celebrate my birthday[/QUOTE] Happy 13th
The way I see it is this: A man has a gun and intends to use it. (Be it self defense, hunting or even murder.) You take that gun from him. He finds a knife. You take that knife. He finds a stick or some kind of blunt object. You take that object. He uses his bare hands. Guns are weapons used by humans for many purposes and humans are resourceful, take away one means of accomplishing something and they will find another.
[QUOTE=aydin690;22057183]So, you're telling me that the highest rate of violent crimes in the world is not because of that one trizillion guns that you guys have?[/QUOTE] So I suppose violent crime just goes up the UK and Australia because they keep relaxing gun laws? Oh wait...
[QUOTE=Skinny T;22085887]The way I see it is this: A man has a gun and intends to use it. (Be it self defense, hunting or even murder.) You take that gun from him. He finds a knife. You take that knife. He finds a stick or some kind of blunt object. You take that object. He uses his bare hands. Guns are weapons used by humans for many purposes and humans are resourceful, take away one means of accomplishing something and they will find another.[/QUOTE] If you're given a spoon to take down a tree, would you just as eager as when you're given a chainsaw? Weapons create opportunity and it WILL involve a decision one person makes. A lot of murders are not planned beforehand, but caused by temporary emotional responses AND opportunity. My opinion remains that firearms should not be carried by civilians. You might know that you yourself are stable and responsible with your weapon, but is your neighbour too?
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22085739]Happy 13th[/QUOTE] yeah, fun fun...
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22088645]yeah, fun fun...[/QUOTE] you're ignorant of arguments, of reality, of what can and can't be done, of culture, of people, of hundreds of things, and yet... You're arrogant about that. You're either 13, or an idiot.
[QUOTE=Clavus;22087192]If you're given a spoon to take down a tree, would you just as eager as when you're given a chainsaw? Weapons create opportunity and it WILL involve a decision one person makes. A lot of murders are not planned beforehand, but caused by temporary emotional responses AND opportunity. My opinion remains that firearms should not be carried by civilians. You might know that you yourself are stable and responsible with your weapon, but is your neighbour too?[/QUOTE] if my neighbor was an unstable maniac he wouldn't have a gun in the first place.
[QUOTE=Clavus;22087192]If you're given a spoon to take down a tree, would you just as eager as when you're given a chainsaw? Weapons create opportunity and it WILL involve a decision one person makes. A lot of murders are not planned beforehand, but caused by temporary emotional responses AND opportunity. My opinion remains that firearms should not be carried by civilians. You might know that you yourself are stable and responsible with your weapon, but is your neighbour too?[/QUOTE] Background checks, registration, etc. If someone really wants to kill you, they'll kill you with or without a gun. Not to mention, most murders aren't committed with registered guns.
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