Gun control is fucking stupid you guys are dumb except for perfumly (again)
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21969652]Gun control is fucking stupid you guys are dumb except for perfumly (again)[/QUOTE]
I think the majority of people here are arguing on perfumlys side goose.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21969652]Gun control is fucking stupid you guys are dumb except for perfumly (again)[/QUOTE]
and me
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21969590] semi automatic civilian issue assault rifle[/QUOTE]
Its like I'm watching two monkies throw poop at eachother
[QUOTE=the_KMM;21969646]Um
You play too many vidya gaems. Unless it's the difference between a .22LR and a .50BMG, any gun can kill you just as easily as any other gun. You'll bleed out pretty damn quickly.
>Implying handguns are only good for murdering others
Or self defense, just maybe[/QUOTE]
The fuck? I didn't say anything like that, in fact, a few posts up I said something to the effect of "the power of the bullet doesn't mean much anyway"
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21969675]I think the majority of people here are arguing on perfumlys side goose.[/QUOTE]
well GOOD
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21969462]No, but banning guns is outright bad. It doesn't work, or make a lick of sense.[/QUOTE]
It disarms all the law abiding civilians. If someone is going to murder someone, chances are they don't care about a law saying they can't own a gun.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21969686]Semi automatic assault rifle
Its like I'm watching two monkies throw poop at eachother[/QUOTE]
I don't like scat :(
Whatever the term for those civilian issue assault rifle is, that's what I mean.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21969575]Actually, I just realized it's totally situation whether it's better.
If you're going straight up to murder someone, then rifles are better, if you need to be stealthy, then handguns.[/QUOTE]
You know what assassins did in the 70's? They'd buy a .22 pistol, walk by their target and pop him in the head. It's quiet enough that for a few brief seconds, he had the opportunity to just leave.
ALTERNATIVELY, you could roll up to somebody in your car, blast him away with a .44 revolver, and leave. I'd say that's pretty straight up.
Even then, there's another way; a silenced rifle. Stealthy [I]with[/I] distance!
You know nothing of guns. Stop using video game gun logic.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21969731]It disarms all the law abiding civilians. If someone is going to murder someone, chances are they don't care if their gun is legal or not.[/QUOTE]
I'm agreeing with you on that. Never thought differently.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21969731]It disarms all the law abiding civilians. If someone is going to murder someone, chances are they don't care about a law saying they can't own a gun.[/QUOTE]
Hey hows your furry porn going
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21969731]It disarms all the law abiding civilians. If someone is going to murder someone, chances are they don't care about a law saying they can't own a gun.[/QUOTE]
Boba_Fett actually saying something rational?
Fucking hell, Facepunch is devoid of any acceptance of opinion.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21969590]semi automatic civilian issue assault rifle[/QUOTE]
BWAHAHAHA
First off, they don't 'issue' assault rifles to citizens.
Second, I fucking hate it when people call semi-auto's 'assault rifles'.
[QUOTE=AMD 32;21969812]Fucking hell, Facepunch is devoid of any acceptance of opinion.[/QUOTE]
yeah we don't like accepting opinions of people who want to take our rights away. Hard to respect that.
[QUOTE=JDK721;21969377]You're just misinformed. You said you banning handguns at one point would be a good thing. All it does is hurt law abiding citizens. They tried that in Washington D.C. and it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.[/QUOTE]
No, you are still not understanding. I'm not saying they should have been banned 10 years ago or anything like that, I'm saying they should have been banned from the get go.
If they were banned from the get go they wouldn't be in the hands of common criminals like they are today, because they wouldn't be in the hands of anyone.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21969763]Hey hows your furry porn going[/QUOTE]
Why are you so convinced I'm a furfag?
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;21969835]No, you are still not understanding. I'm not saying they should have been banned 10 years ago or anything like that, I'm saying they should have been banned from the get go.
If they were banned from the get go they wouldn't be in the hands of common criminals like they are today, because they wouldn't be in the hands of anyone.[/QUOTE]
Please, respond to me.
Are you saying that the government should have firearms, but the people shouldn't?
[QUOTE=the_KMM;21969822]BWAHAHAHA
First off, they don't 'issue' assault rifles to citizens.
Second, I fucking hate it when people call semi-auto's 'assault rifles'.[/QUOTE]
I don't fucking care, the civilian variant of a military weapon. That's what I'm getting at, you can stop slinging shit at the people on your side before you just look like a fucking retard.
I'm not a gun guy, I don't deal with guns, I don't get into it, obviously I know when I'm wrong, but this isn't about individual guns, this is about law.
Now shut the fuck up.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;21969835]No, you are still not understanding. I'm not saying they should have been banned 10 years ago or anything like that, I'm saying they should have been banned from the get go.
If they were banned from the get go they wouldn't be in the hands of common criminals like they are today, because they wouldn't be in the hands of anyone.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because taking rights away from people is a good thing and banning something means it automatically disappears.
Banning handguns just means that they go underground and thus law abiding citizens are disarmed while criminals remained armed.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21969852]Why are you so convinced I'm a furfag?[/QUOTE]
You've admitted it before.
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[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;21969835]No, you are still not understanding. I'm not saying they should have been banned 10 years ago or anything like that, I'm saying they should have been banned from the get go.
If they were banned from the get go they wouldn't be in the hands of common criminals like they are today, because they wouldn't be in the hands of anyone.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying if guns had never been invented we wouldn't have guns. That's obvious, but irrelevant.
Banning weapons "from the get go" wouldn't solve anything. Just because you ban something doesn't mean it's gone forever.
You cant take back a technology. People would still be able to get their hands on a weapon by some other means.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;21969570]Here's the thing:
They're both the same gun. The only difference is that one has a wooden stock, while the other is synthetic.
In fact, they're both Ruger 10/22's, basically 'Billy's First Rifle'.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I kind of assumed that it was going to be something like that. In which case, what was the point of that? Were you expecting me to think the black and silver one was made to kill people because it looks like it belongs in counter-strike or something?
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;21969835]No, you are still not understanding. I'm not saying they should have been banned 10 years ago or anything like that, I'm saying they should have been banned from the get go.
If they were banned from the get go they wouldn't be in the hands of common criminals like they are today, because they wouldn't be in the hands of anyone.[/QUOTE]
Do you honestly think criminals stop by their local gunshop to pick up guns?
[editline]06:01PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21969874]You've admitted it before.
[/QUOTE]
I got over it.
[QUOTE=Jacam12SUX;21964888]Elaborate.[/QUOTE]
Switzerland, for example.
Every able-bodied man in Switzerland is drafted into the military at age 18 (might be 16, one or the other), but they are allowed to stay home in peacetime, only returning annually to complete refresher courses. They also are given a standard-issue firearm, ammunition, and uniform that are required to be kept at home. Guess what crime rates are in Switzerland? Almost non-existant.
Guns have been proven to lower crime-rates, it's a known fact. Besides, even if guns were banned for whatever reason, criminals would still get guns anyway. Hell, they already get them illegally in most cases in the first place. With guns banned, then you'd have no way to fight back.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21969947]Switzerland, for example.
Every able-bodied man in Switzerland is drafted into the military, but is allowed to stay home in peacetime, only returning annually to complete refresher courses. They also are given a standard-issue firearm, ammunition, and uniform. Guess what crime rates are in Switzerland? Almost non-existant.
Guns have been proven to lower crime-rates, it's a known fact. Besides, even if guns were banned for whatever reason, criminals would still get guns anyway. Hell, they already get them illegally in most cases in the first place. With guns banned, then you'd have no way to fight back.[/QUOTE]
I hate it when I agree with you.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21969731]It disarms all the law abiding civilians. If someone is going to murder someone, chances are they don't care about a law saying they can't own a gun.[/QUOTE]
Those law-abiding citizens will have no way of defense.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21969947]Switzerland, for example.
Every able-bodied man in Switzerland is drafted into the military, but is allowed to stay home in peacetime, only returning annually to complete refresher courses. They also are given a standard-issue firearm, ammunition, and uniform. Guess what crime rates are in Switzerland? Almost non-existant.
Guns have been proven to lower crime-rates, it's a known fact. Besides, even if guns were banned for whatever reason, criminals would still get guns anyway. Hell, they already get them illegally in most cases in the first place. With guns banned, then you'd have no way to fight back.[/QUOTE]
I would've never thought I'd agree with you.
[QUOTE=JDK721;21969982]I would've never thought I'd agree with you.[/QUOTE]
I think this is a rare moment in Facepunch history.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;21969858]Please, respond to me.
Are you saying that the government should have firearms, but the people shouldn't?[/QUOTE]
It works elsewhere in the world, why wouldn't it work here? No one person in the US government has enough power to oppress the people to the point where anyone would need to use their guns to overthrow the government in the first place.
[editline]03:06PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;21969925]Do you honestly think criminals stop by their local gunshop to pick up guns?[/QUOTE]
When did I ever say that? Are you dense?
It's funny how you are all acting as though the illegal firearms that criminals obtain weren't at some point legal firearms. Criminals don't have the magical ability to conjure guns. They had to come from somewhere, and I'd be willing to be that the vast majority of them came from a legitimate gun store at one point or another.
[editline]03:08PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21969874]That's like saying if guns had never been invented we wouldn't have guns. That's obvious, but irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
No, it's like saying if guns weren't allowed to become so prolific in the first place they wouldn't have been able to get in to the hands of the wrong people so easily either.
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