• FCC’s senior republican, Ajit Pai says net neutrality’s “days are numbered” under Trump
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[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;51503369]Ah oh well, but I guess the solution would be to just buy out the "tollmen" for services like Netflix to circumvent the idea.[/QUOTE] That's even more cancerous since the ISPs would then have even more DIRECT interests to fuck over competition If Riot Games owned one and it was becoming acceptable to mess with competition why wouldn't they throttle traffic to all over games with the pretense of giving league players a ~premium expedited experience~
Trump supporters should hold their president accountable if they don't want this. You don't have to blindly go along with everything he does if you don't like this. Trump will have as much power as the American people let him have.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51503374]Trump supporters should hold their president accountable if they don't want this. You don't have to blindly go along with everything he does if you don't like this. Trump will have as much power as the American people let him have.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but would Trump even listen in the first place? I don't think he's the kind of guy that would listen to what the common person has to say about he's doing unless they're praising him.
I can only hope somehow, some way, we can keep net neutrality alive until the Democrats take office again. The republicans are gonna run wild on us for 4 years but the least I can do is hope we can fix it when they're gone. But I think I know how we reach the 'corporate run cyberpunk dystopia' phase of our existence now. Or you know, Viva la Revolucion.
That's why he should never have been elected in the first place, all the signs [b]obviously[/b] pointed to that, but no, he got elected because he made himself sound more trustworthy than crooked illary clinton, and actually canvassed for votes. If anything, Clinton is to blame for losing the plot so completely just as much as the people are to blame for believing a conman's lies.
Every time I hear about Chump's cabinet I get more and more disgusted.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;51503578]Every time I hear about Chump's cabinet I get more and more disgusted.[/QUOTE] It's like he's intentionally picking the worst cabinet possible
So is there [I]anything at all[/I] we can do about this? Or is the internet as we know it not going to exist this time next year?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51503374]Trump supporters should hold their president accountable if they don't want this. You don't have to blindly go along with everything he does if you don't like this. Trump will have as much power as the American people let him have.[/QUOTE] Looking at /pol/, half of them don't know what net neutrality is and the other half say this will defeat the evil jewish overlords.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;51503594]So is there [I]anything at all[/I] we can do about this? Or is the internet as we know it not going to exist this time next year?[/QUOTE] The entire internet is going to be fighting this every step of the way, including companies like google and wikipedia. If we're lucky, they can stir up enough activism. I reckon if it [I]does[/I], people will start fighting back against the realities of it really hard. The internet is something, even more than movies, that we almost all take part in. It's [I]essential[/I] to our daily lives. There are 0 people who are going to like it once they have to pay an extra $15 a month for the Entertainment Package or the Gaming Package or the Adult Entertainment Package.
Honestly, I think that google should hard-shutdown its entire site for a whole week explaining the facts of net neutrality, as well as microsoft and anyone else who has a search engine, to make the point across. Maybe that'll get it through the thick skulls of people who thought voting for Trump was a good idea.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;51503594]So is there [I]anything at all[/I] we can do about this? Or is the internet as we know it not going to exist this time next year?[/QUOTE] The important thing to remember here is that this is a First Amendment issue. The internet isn't just a delivery vehicle for for-profit content, it's also a crucial tool for free speech, political activism, and independent news circulation. Corporate media have trained their sights on net neutrality regulations because the internet has taken away their power and democratized the process of information sharing. The internet isn't a damn television, and websites aren't channels to be parceled out in overpriced packages. The very fact that ISPs see things this way is confirmation of their own woefully outdated and greedy mindsets. In short, the system is now participatory rather than one-way. People don't just consume content, they create it. Therefore any restriction on internet accessibility is fundamentally a restriction on free speech.
[QUOTE=Samiam22;51503115]The only people the Trump voters can blame for this incoming dumpster fire are themselves. I wonder how they're going to defend this one.[/QUOTE] The worse things are made, the sooner America will come together and pull their collective heads out of their asses. Know how anti vaxxers quit being anti vaxxers? When one of their children die or the parent comes close to death due to contracting an illness due their stupidity. Right now people are stuck on this us versus them mindset. Identity politics are killing this nation and neither side are addressing the real issues this nation faces. The needs on the right are different then those on the right. Those on the left live in cites. Those in rural areas are supporting the GOP. When the entire nation is in a Venezuela or post soviet 1990's collapse style crisis is when all our needs will be the same and we will come together instead of being at each other throats. As long its still left vs right and not not us the American people vs corporate power, things WILL NOT GET BETTER. As long as Americans treat politics like they treat their favorite football team, things will degrade. Right now the collective American collective conscious is similar to the mindset of an anti vaxxer. Stubborn stupid and dangerous.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51503702]The worse things are made, the sooner America will come together and pull their collective heads out of their asses. Know how anti vaxxers quit being anti vaxxers? When one of their children die or the parent comes close to death due to contracting an illness due their stupidity. Right now people are stuck on this us versus them mindset. Identity politics are killing this nation and neither side are addressing the real issues this nation faces. The needs on the right are different then those on the right. Those on the left live in cites. Those in rural areas are supporting the GOP. When the entire nation is in a Venezuela or post soviet 1990's collapse style crisis is when all our needs will be the same and we will come together instead of being at each other throats. As long its still left vs right and not not us the American people vs corporate power, things WILL NOT GET BETTER. As long as Americans treat politics like they treat their favorite football team, things will degrade. Right now the collective American collective conscious is similar to the mindset of an anti vaxxer. Stubborn stupid and dangerous.[/QUOTE] people won't magically wake up on their own
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51503702]The worse things are made, the sooner America will come together and pull their collective heads out of their asses. Know how anti vaxxers quit being anti vaxxers? When one of their children die or the parent comes close to death due to contracting an illness due their stupidity. Right now people are stuck on this us versus them mindset. Identity politics are killing this nation and neither side are addressing the real issues this nation faces. The needs on the right are different then those on the right. Those on the left live in cites. Those in rural areas are supporting the GOP. When the entire nation is in a Venezuela or post soviet 1990's collapse style crisis is when all our needs will be the same and we will come together instead of being at each other throats. As long its still left vs right and not not us the American people vs corporate power, things WILL NOT GET BETTER. As long as Americans treat politics like they treat their favorite football team, things will degrade. Right now the collective American collective conscious is similar to the mindset of an anti vaxxer. Stubborn stupid and dangerous.[/QUOTE] Wait that's it Trump said he would bring us together Trump said he would unite the american people this is how he's gonna do it he's going to thrust us in to a corporate oligarchy so fucked up we set aside right vs left and come together as Americans vs the Corporations and the corrupt Government
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51503702]The worse things are made, the sooner America will come together and pull their collective heads out of their asses. Know how anti vaxxers quit being anti vaxxers? When one of their children die or the parent comes close to death due to contracting an illness due their stupidity. Right now people are stuck on this us versus them mindset. Identity politics are killing this nation and neither side are addressing the real issues this nation faces. The needs on the right are different then those on the right. Those on the left live in cites. Those in rural areas are supporting the GOP. When the entire nation is in a Venezuela or post soviet 1990's collapse style crisis is when all our needs will be the same and we will come together instead of being at each other throats. As long its still left vs right and not not us the American people vs corporate power, things WILL NOT GET BETTER. As long as Americans treat politics like they treat their favorite football team, things will degrade. Right now the collective American collective conscious is similar to the mindset of an anti vaxxer. Stubborn stupid and dangerous.[/QUOTE] Unless they still think Obummer and Clinton were to blame for their troubles, or if they blame the liberals again for what happened
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51503770]Unless they still think Obummer and Clinton were to blame for their troubles, or if they blame the liberals again for what happened[/QUOTE] To be honest some people are so fucking dumb I wouldn't be surprised if we had eight consecutive republican controlled governments and for all those 32 years we just had a fucking horrid dystopia and they'd still blame the Democrats if they were told to. But hey, some people in a dictatorship unironically support the dictatorship. Doesn't mean it lasts.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51503759]Wait that's it Trump said he would bring us together Trump said he would unite the american people this is how he's gonna do it he's going to thrust us in to a corporate oligarchy so fucked up we set aside right vs left and come together as Americans vs the Corporations and the corrupt Government[/QUOTE] If he's that smart and that's true, then it's already working because I'm just about ready to find out what I need to do to run in politics, and put my foot down and do the best I can to make this nonsense stop.
Fuck Donald Trump, and also, fuck Hillary Clinton for being enough of a dipshit to lose to him. I can't believe we're going to regress on Net Neutrality, Climate Change, etc, because of Clinton's hubris. :frown: EDIT: For clarification - I know Trump is not doing this directly, in context of this article - I meant fuck him for fostering a political climate to embolden other people into doing things like this.
Why is it so hard for people to see this is fucking TERRIBLE.
[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51504083]Fuck Donald Trump, and also, fuck Hillary Clinton for being enough of a dipshit to lose to him. I can't believe we're going to regress on Net Neutrality, Climate Change, etc, because of Clinton's hubris. :frown: EDIT: For clarification - I know Trump is not doing this directly, in context of this article - I meant fuck him for fostering a political climate to embolden other people into doing things like this.[/QUOTE] Or fuck the American people for actually voting the cunt in.
[QUOTE=Luxuria;51504162]Or fuck the American people for actually voting the cunt in.[/QUOTE] When the media was doing nothing but parade trump around and then Hillary with all her scandals as well, I find it hard to blame the average guy. Despite the rather insistent trump supporters we have online, most trump supporters in the real world are pretty understandable. And once you start having a conversation with them and explained why a lot of their notions (which were planted by the media), you can visually see them change their attitudes. All we had to do was talk to people. But no one talks anymore, either because they are afraid of the other side, or feel to awkward to argue with someone. Some people just gave up on politics. We need to change that should we want to recover next cycle
[QUOTE=da space core;51504192]When the media was doing nothing but parade trump around and then Hillary with all her scandals as well, I find it hard to blame the average guy. Despite the rather insistent trump supporters we have online, most trump supporters in the real world are pretty understandable. And once you start having a conversation with them and explained why a lot of their notions (which were planted by the media), you can visually see them change their attitudes. All we had to do was talk to people. But no one talks anymore, either because they are afraid of the other side, or feel to awkward to argue with someone. Some people just gave up on politics. We need to change that should we want to recover next cycle[/QUOTE] I wish I could be around the people open minded enough to be willing to turn around, being in worst part of the bible belt people around here refuse to see why trump is not all what he's cracked up to be primarily because they actually support the insane policies he has put forth
[QUOTE=Liem;51503584]It's like he's intentionally picking the worst cabinet possible[/QUOTE] There are good picks and bad picks, but Trump is going all-out and choosing [I]incorrect[/I] picks.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;51503594]So is there [I]anything at all[/I] we can do about this? Or is the internet as we know it not going to exist this time next year?[/QUOTE] All I can really say at this point is to buy a shitton of hard drive space (and other data storage mediums, CD/DVD/Blu-ray, etc) and download EVERYTHING you can. All your downloadable games (Steam, GOG, PSN, etc, also things that don't have the whole game on the disc), all your favorite youtubers' videos, website backups (Wikipedia, Facepunch, Reddit, etc, especially of smaller sites that won't be able to pay to be on a website package), linux distros, everything. Hopefully you'll have enough content to ride out the storm. Also, look into things like mesh networks.
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;51503028]As long as this doesn't leak into the EU, I am totally fine with America getting their VideoPackage for 9.99 extra or xxXTheGamerXxx package with Playstation Network, Xbox Live, Steam and other games for 15.99 extra on your subscription with a 50 GB cap on each package that if you overspend GBs you have to spend $50 for each extra 10 GBs. Then you've got the Music Package with the same deal with Spotify, Pandora etc. But, don't worry. There'll probably be even more funny package ideas like the Netflix package and the YouTube package for only one service, so you have to subscribe to dozen more packages to get everything included in the Fancy Premium Internet Bundle for only 199 USD each month or maybe to get everything included probably more in the range of $500 each month. Have fun. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("That will be 15.99 USD for the facepunch premium access plan" - GunFox))[/highlight][/QUOTE] First, they came for the socialists, but I did not speak out, because I am not a socialist.... [editline]9th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=da space core;51504192]When the media was doing nothing but parade trump around and then Hillary with all her scandals as well, I find it hard to blame the average guy. Despite the rather insistent trump supporters we have online, most trump supporters in the real world are pretty understandable. And once you start having a conversation with them and explained why a lot of their notions (which were planted by the media), you can visually see them change their attitudes. All we had to do was talk to people. But no one talks anymore, either because they are afraid of the other side, or feel to awkward to argue with someone. Some people just gave up on politics. We need to change that should we want to recover next cycle[/QUOTE] Nah, I kinda like when people feel the need to HAVE to prove me wrong in favor of their copypasted opinions /s
[QUOTE=Kylel999;51505000]First, they came for the socialists, but I did not speak out, because I am not a socialist.... [editline]9th December 2016[/editline] Nah, I kinda like when people feel the need to HAVE to prove me wrong in favor of their copypasted opinions /s[/QUOTE] I can't stop laughing at the irony of saying other people have "copy pasted opinions"
[QUOTE=Mikaru-Yanagida;51503645]Honestly, I think that google should hard-shutdown its entire site for a whole week explaining the facts of net neutrality, as well as microsoft and anyone else who has a search engine, to make the point across. Maybe that'll get it through the thick skulls of people who thought voting for Trump was a good idea.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure they'd do something similar as a last resort, sort of like what they did when SOPA was about to pass.
i find it funny how /pol/ with all of their trump pepe and cuck memes helped destroy themselves
I only hope that the people actually speak up for themselves over this. The internet is one of man kinds greatest achievements. Preventing people from accessing it in it's entirety should be a crime against humanity in today's age, what with knowledge so widely available on it and everything. I would argue that this is more of an effort to keep the majority of people ignorant just as much as it is about the money.
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