Leslie Jones (Ghostbusters actress) leaves Twitter after trolls continue to harass her vigorously
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[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50737582]So you think people are calling her ape and nigger because she made some controversial twitter posts, not because they're racists and she's black?[/QUOTE]
Thats how trolls work, they look for anything about you to they think they can attack. They probably dont think black people are inferior even as they spam "ape" like idiots. They're terrible people but racism is something specific.
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50737275][IMG]http://puu.sh/q6I1t/d0a0136636.png[/IMG]
yeah if you act like this you have zero ground to stand on when you say 'wah i'm being persecuted, woe is me'[/QUOTE]
Deserves all he hate she's getting for that
[QUOTE=SuperDuprKyle;50740645]Deserves all he hate she's getting for that[/QUOTE]
How
[QUOTE=SuperDuprKyle;50740645]Deserves all he hate she's getting for that[/QUOTE]
That's a massive exaggeration but that does make her a hypocrite if that tweet isn't fake.
[QUOTE=SuperDuprKyle;50740645]Deserves all he hate she's getting for that[/QUOTE]
What a preposterous mindset, you can't be serious right now. How does that in any way warrant or justify what she's getting? You're completely delusional.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50740567]Let's stop pretending that wasn't exactly the reaction she was going to expect.[/QUOTE]
That's shoe0nhead, so no
[editline]19th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50740604]but tyler the creator said that online harassment doesn't exist!
[editline]19th July 2016[/editline]
Her age is irrelevant tbh, it's her experience with social media plus background with depression and racism.[/QUOTE]
I seem to remember her calling out her criticizers for all being racist misogynist trolls so? You'd think she'd know what one is after inviting their attention
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50740679]I seem to remember her calling out her criticizers for all being racist misogynist trolls so? You'd think she'd know what one is after inviting their attention[/QUOTE]
tbh it's actually really pointless to argue whether or not she knew this would happen because it happened.
she clearly did not know this would happen, if she did, we wouldn't be talking about this, now would we?
honestly for her sake it's better they're doing that than being more cutting
imagine if every tweet she got was a well thought out blurb of why she's a bad actress, instead of mindless hate.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;50740554]I'd say victim blaming and defending racism is killing SH but hey what do I know I'm not yet desensitized to racial abuse so clearly not qualified to be in this discussion.[/QUOTE]
So when I blame the trolls, that's victim blaming?
You don't read what people write and instead interpret the statements to be far wider reaching than they are then you generalize the people you're against because they're not as righteous as you. Rinse. Repeat.
That's what's killing SH
She thought she was being tough/heroic telling Nero she reported him for his nasty review and didn't realize he's practically a professional troll and that he had more followers than her. If she didn't react to reviews like a cry bully this wouldn't be happening. It's kinda rude you assume she's just flat out retarded and didn't know about trolls and that there'd be rude reviews after she was part of a campaign and film that's gimmick was troll bait
Important Proviso: This is like, my opinion, man.
Can we back up a bit and discern why exactly these actors are getting harrassed (or trolled or however the fuck you want to frame it) over a franchise that wasn't ever actually any good? Like, I get it, rose-tinted glasses, nostalgia, and what-have-you. But these shitheads on the internet are worked up over a series where the only good thing to ever come out of it was the original movie. The second was a godawful cash grab and so were the subsequent cartoons. The whole series is shit. Have people forgotten that? Sure, the first one holds a special place in my heart. All the other properties hold a special place in my furnace.
This whole debacle, to me, just highlights how removed people on the internet believe they are from the real world and the consequences associated with the vitriol they spew.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;50740718]honestly for her sake it's better they're doing that than being more cutting
imagine if every tweet she got was a well thought out blurb of why she's a bad actress, instead of mindless hate.[/QUOTE]
Almost impossible because nero attracts trolls so there's bound to be more anonymous any means necessary shit stirrers, especially with her retweeting everything
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50740737]She thought she was being tough/heroic telling Nero she reported him for his nasty review and didn't realize he's practically a professional troll and that he had more followers than her. If she didn't react to reviews like a cry bully this wouldn't be happening. It's kinda rude you assume she's just flat out retarded and didn't know about trolls and that there'd be rude reviews after she was part of a campaign and film that's gimmick was troll bait[/QUOTE]
No one is saying that she's flat out retarded.
She knew about trolls, obviously by her remarks. I wouldn't be surprised if she thought the lowest a troll would ever go is leave a hateful youtube comment.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50740763]Making an ass out of herself? Spouting insults? Calling people names? Those are all literally a response to people spouting insults and calling her names.[/QUOTE]
Do you really not understand the problem with this?
Since you were so keen to mention other threads earlier, didn't you defend keemstar at some point by saying "you dont be an asshole to others just because they were a troll" and that they don't get to mess with each other?
eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind and all that?
[QUOTE=Socram;50740672]What a preposterous mindset, you can't be serious right now. How does that in any way warrant or justify what she's getting? You're completely delusional.[/QUOTE]
She's apart of a movie that makes fun of men, happens to be kinda fucked when you mention that because she's a women she has to enjoy her shitty movie she stars in.
Keemstar in general is the prime example of why the only way to beat a troll is to be better than them and not get involved in their stupid shit. The longer you willingly expose yourself to them the more dirt they'll dig up on you and the more profit (literally or figuratively) they'll make at your expense.
If you start getting involved be it because of a lapse in judgement or because you fell for them then your best course of action is to quietly stop responding and move on. Trying to act up and mighty past that point and constantly trying to have the last word isn't something you do against these sorts of idiots.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;50740888]Keemstar in general is the prime example of why the only way to beat a troll is to be better than them and not get involved in their stupid shit. The longer you willingly expose yourself to them the more dirt they'll dig up on you and the more profit (literally or figuratively) they'll make at your expense.[/QUOTE]
I wonder how many people looked at Nero's brietbart review to see what the fuss is about because of this, you're probably right that he may have made some profit from it
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50740898]I wonder how many people looked at Nero's brietbart review to see what the fuss is about because of this, you're probably right that he may have made some profit from it[/QUOTE]
Keemstar makes money off of his streams and videos (at least I think they are monetized ?). His entire business strategy is to stir shit up, watch as people get mad, and collect the money from his ten billion videos and his twitch channel.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50740536]Yeah totally apologizing for that when I say those people are in the wrong.
Yeah generalizing all of SH has made it gone down hill because now everyone can't stop fucking generalizing everyone else and assuming what everyone else believes.
[editline]19th July 2016[/editline]
[B]THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.[/B]
You're TELLING Gan what he believes, because fuck him, you know what he thinks deep down, why argue like a grown up when you can quip at him and tell him what he believes.
That's what's killing SH.[/QUOTE]
[B]HEY IF A BOLD AND CAPITALIZE MY WORDS TOO, WILL I SOUND MORE RIGHT?[/B]
But for real, SH has been having a bad problem with stupid people defending stupid assholes, and this thread is another link of that long-ass chain.
[QUOTE=axelord157;50740917][B]HEY IF A BOLD AND CAPITALIZE MY WORDS TOO, WILL I SOUND MORE RIGHT?[/B]
But for real, SH has been having a bad problem with stupid people defending stupid assholes, and this thread is another link of that long-ass chain.[/QUOTE]
It must be easy to have your world view reinforced when you don't question it
SH has a problem, yes, if you think the problem is solely people defending assholes, then you're wrong, flat out and unceremoniously wrong.
The issue, as I see it, is the willingness, and speed at which posters here denigrate each other, and generalize their views into a far more abhorrent version of those views for the sake of argument. What I see, and what I'm guilty of a long with the rest of you, is taking relatively normal statements and running those into the fucking ground to prove how much worse of a person the other person really is. I don't really want to see that continue, and I think part of that is everyone has to stop it, which includes people like yourself where you don't see yourself as playing into that at all
But look at this thread alone, Gan got his views totally fucking warped by the people arguing against him and they did that just so they could be superior to him on this topic and show just how much more righteous they are and how much better people they are because of how they percieve insults and slights towards another human being. Even my own views were twisted for the sake of argument here. I do not believe this is Leslies fault, but because I don't think she reacted in a way that was conducive to solving the problem, I'm a victim blamer. So, yeah, please do tell me how purely defending assholes is the issue
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50740957]It must be easy to have your world view reinforced when you don't question it
SH has a problem, yes, if you think the problem is solely people defending assholes, then you're wrong, flat out and unceremoniously wrong.
The issue, as I see it, is the willingness, and speed at which posters here denigrate each other, and generalize their views into a far more abhorrent version of those views for the sake of argument. What I see, and what I'm guilty of a long with the rest of you, is taking relatively normal statements and running those into the fucking ground to prove how much worse of a person the other person really is. I don't really want to see that continue, and I think part of that is everyone has to stop it, which includes people like yourself where you don't see yourself as playing into that at all
But look at this thread alone, Gan got his views totally fucking warped by the people arguing against him and they did that just so they could be superior to him on this topic and show just how much more righteous they are and how much better people they are because of how they percieve insults and slights towards another human being. Even my own views were twisted for the sake of argument here. I do not believe this is Leslies fault, but because I don't think she reacted in a way that was conducive to solving the problem, I'm a victim blamer. So, yeah, please do tell me how purely defending assholes is the issue[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I find it godawful people are willing to defend online harassment throughout this thread.
Apathy isn't defense but ok
[QUOTE=axelord157;50740980]Sorry if I find it godawful people are willing to defend online harassment throughout this thread.[/QUOTE]
Can we stop with this reactionary kneejerk hogshit ?
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;50741023]Well good to know you don't endorse your own behaviour.[/QUOTE]
tbh there's a difference between shitting on someone without them seeing it and shitting on someone and trying to make them see it
axelord is not a nice person obv but that is not equal to online harrassment
[QUOTE=axelord157;50740917][B]HEY IF A BOLD AND CAPITALIZE MY WORDS TOO, WILL I SOUND MORE RIGHT?[/B]
But for real, SH has been having a bad problem with stupid people defending stupid assholes, and this thread is another link of that long-ass chain.[/QUOTE]
If I had a dollar for every time I heard this in SH over the years.
SH has always been like this (having polar opposite opinions with posters from both sides, like yourself, pointing to the opposite side of their view point and claiming how SH has seen better days or something to that effect) ever since I joined and I assume it was happening well before that. Its nothing new.
Anyways, its obvious this woman isn't all that into Internet culture and is acting out as if she was physically mailed these insults. I feel bad for her to be honest and not just for the obvious bullshit shes getting from Twitter but how she seems completely oblivious on how to counter it.
[QUOTE=axelord157;50740980]Sorry if I find it godawful people are willing to defend online harassment throughout this thread.[/QUOTE]
Who is actually defending it though? Why do you feel the need to put those views in my hands, and other posters hands?
Why is it okay to make me a "Victim Blamer" for the sake of argument when I'm blaming the trolls? How is that good for SH or discussion in general? Rather than respond to anything in my post, you turn your nose up at it and insist that's not the issue to reiterate your own point again
You're not here to listen, you're here to tell everyone else what to listen to
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50741036]tbh there's a difference between shitting on someone without them seeing it and shitting on someone and trying to make them see it
axelord is not a nice person obv but that is not equal to online harrassment[/QUOTE]
Where was that attitude when someone said something about me finding her repulsive
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50741055]Where was that attitude when someone said something about me finding her repulsive[/QUOTE]
It's selective
[QUOTE=axelord157;50740980]Sorry if I find it godawful people are willing to defend online harassment throughout this thread.[/QUOTE]
Fucking nobody is defending the god damn harassment, stop force feeding words into other peoples mouths in an inane and stupid attempt to turn them into a strawman so you dont actually have to argue against their points and actually come up with an argument.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;50741122]Gan literally worded his posts as if it was her fault so what are you even saying?
Do you not know what it means to "basically [B][U]slam your face[/U][/B] into a bear trap and then [B][U]act surprised[/U][/B] when you get struck by it?"
Also yeah its totally not blaming the victim when you say she should have done research on random trolls on the internet. Like you definitely didn't cross the line when you went from "Yeah, I really wish she knew how to handle internet trolls. They're a bunch of dicks" to "She basically kept walking into a pole and wondering why there was a pole in her way"[/QUOTE]
Its because she's not only responding to, but putting the shit being thrown at her on a pedestal, as well as all the stupid shit she said during the films smear campaign against detractors with her cohorts acting as the fuel for this fire.
He's not blaming her for the harassment, he's blaming her for putting salt on her own wound.
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