[QUOTE=G-Strogg;38492355]More likely that the Clown will set the singularity loose, so that's why I'm worried.[/QUOTE]
Agree,yo never know what's lurking in those pesky soviet space stations,no?
Aighty, so the drive there and the theory it uses [I]in its present state[/I] is dangerous. This is still 2012 people, we have plenty of time before the sci-fi universes we love will start going "so where's yours?"
[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;38492516]OK, so I get how time dilation would make it seem like only 2 weeks for the people on the ship, but from the perspective of the people on earth, wouldn't it take thousands of years (or more) for them to send back any information?[/QUOTE]
if we could cheat past the speed of light, I'm pretty sure we can cheat past time dilation
You wouldn't be warping directly to your destination. You would warp to the outer edge of the target system then use more conventional means to retrograde into the desired planets gravity well. British tall ships didn't go into port with all sails open.
[QUOTE=mankind_me;38492696]if we could cheat past the speed of light, I'm pretty sure we can cheat past time dilation[/QUOTE]
Yea,just type a cheat code into yo phone,and boom! Cheat activated. You need to hear a "bleep" and see a flying rectangle with "cheat activated" text flying to the left above your head.
[QUOTE=KamenMoore;38491981]I wouldn't mind being the person who tests that theory first hand, even if the consequences could be fatal.[/QUOTE]
It'd be one hell of a ride, that's for sure.
Try harder, physicists. I want to go on an intergalactic adventure.
Well if the ship itself could be protected why couldn't you just "jump" outside the solar system where there's nothing at the enter/exit point?
[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;38492516]OK, so I get how time dilation would make it seem like only 2 weeks for the people on the ship, but from the perspective of the people on earth, wouldn't it take thousands of years (or more) for them to send back any information?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if time dilation applies here though. I can be wrong of course.
But yes, the communication if based on Light would have to travel at the normal lightspeed thus it would take thousands upon thousands of years for it to travel. Would most likely be best to send information capsules back and fourth with their own FTL drives.
I believe someday slipspace travel will be possible, like in halo, that way you wont have to go faster then light, youll just have to cheat physics.
Set your destination for the other side of Earth and blow the fucker apart.
Let's focus on finding the negative mass matter that's supposed to power this thing. Hint: we wont find it (i'm a pessimistic ass ;)).
[QUOTE=Angua;38492764]Well if the ship itself could be protected why couldn't you just "jump" outside the solar system where there's nothing at the enter/exit point?[/QUOTE]
Because gamma rays don't exactly just disappear in a vacuum, they sort of tend to keep going
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[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;38493315]if ftl travel isnt invented within my lifetime i'll kill myself[/QUOTE]
If FTL travel isn't invented in your lifetime then you'll already be dead, as it's outside of your life :v:
[QUOTE=ironman17;38492078]And that, children, is why spacebending and wormhole technology is the safer option; sure we'd probably require the technology to create a powerful singularity, as well as containment and shielding to prevent the gateway from spaghettifying the ship and/or devouring the world around it, but it's still better than firing a massive shell that causes a gamma ray burst that could murder an entire planet and the people onboard the ship.[/QUOTE]
Nah, finding the stargates left by the Ancients is clearly the safest option. I mean, if we're entertaining the notion of one piece of possible-only-in-theory fictional technology, why not another?
If we ever manage to get any sort of FTL, which is highly unlikely as Einstein has been confirmed to a significant number of decimal places, it will be pretty much blind chance as to what method happens to mathematically work. You can't just pick up your favorite piece of speculative 'wouldn't this be neat' pop culture pseudo-science and call it a goal.
Face it people, mankind is doomed to be stuck on this solar system until extinction. And in our lifetimes we will never see aliens or space stations. It's the tragedy of the universe, that everything is so damn far away and will constantly move further away.
It's not like it matters if mankind does find a way to get out of the solar system, we would all be dead before then anyways.
Now you could consider some sort of way of cryogenic freezing in order to travel to other planets without dieing, but say bye bye to pretty much everybody who doesn't come with you, and you are still taking a risk by going into freeze for that long of a time.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';38494193]Face it people, mankind is doomed to be stuck on this solar system until extinction. And in our lifetimes we will never see aliens or space stations. It's the tragedy of the universe, that everything is so damn far away and will constantly move further away.
It's not like it matters if mankind does find a way to get out of the solar system, we would all be dead before then anyways.
Now you could consider some sort of way of cryogenic freezing in order to travel to other planets without dieing, but say bye bye to pretty much everybody who doesn't come with you, and you are still taking a risk by going into freeze for that long of a time.[/QUOTE]
Hydroponic 'lifeboats' could work. A ship big enough, with enough supplies, could become a small colony jettisoned off towards some distant solar system and survive, as long as the crew doesn't destroy themselves. It would take dozens of generations of humans and hundreds of thousands of generations of crops to get somewhere significant, but with proper prior planning, the lifeboat could become a seed; the beachhead from which we radiate new life into a new planet. We'd never live to see it, but it's feasible if humanity can put aside petty differences and come together for the sake of something greater than the parts.
Why did i think of
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People say things are impossible, but modern science is what, 100 years old now? We still don't understand most of the universe and its laws. Waiting until we do before it's definitive.
[QUOTE=ironman17;38492078]And that, children, is why spacebending and wormhole technology is the safer option; sure we'd probably require the technology to create a powerful singularity, as well as containment and shielding to prevent the gateway from spaghettifying the ship and/or devouring the world around it, but it's still better than firing a massive shell that causes a gamma ray burst that could murder an entire planet and the people onboard the ship.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GlebGuy;38492150]I'm pretty sure some other Species may have attempted, if they failed, we would probably notice something.[/QUOTE]
as we find out that this is how black holes are born
[QUOTE=BenJammin';38494193]And in our lifetimes we will never see aliens or [B]space stations.[/B][/QUOTE]
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[img]http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/m/mirhoriz.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/spacestation/images/iss.jpg[/img]
Yeah, I guess you're right.
[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;38491924]well they thought that going at the speed of sound would kill you, so there may still be hope[/QUOTE]
Hell back when cars and trains were just getting started, they thought going faster than 20mph would cause your insides to flatten and kill you.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;38493315]if ftl travel isnt invented within my lifetime i'll kill myself[/QUOTE]
with the current form of warp drive?
[QUOTE=MightyMax;38496742]Hell back when cars and trains were just getting started, they thought going faster than 20mph would cause your insides to flatten and kill you.[/QUOTE]
When they started laying railways in the UK there was an outcry from the farmers, they were absolutely 100% sure that the 30mph train was going so fast that it would set their crops on fire.
[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;38491924]well they thought that going at the speed of sound would kill you, so there may still be hope[/QUOTE]
I hate this argument every time FTL is brought up. The problem is that while they thought you couldn't go the speed if sound because "shit that's fast, you be like soupified or some shit," you can't go the speed of light because of effects we can calculate, from one of the best tested physical theories out there, that forms one of the pillars of modern physics.
Plus, none of this says it would kill you outright. Just that it would create potentially deadly effects we'd have to account for if you felt like surviving.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';38494193]And in our lifetimes we will never see aliens or space stations.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck do you think the ISS is
[QUOTE=Lord Fear;38492784]
But yes, the communication if based on Light would have to travel at the normal lightspeed thus it would take thousands upon thousands of years for it to travel. Would most likely be best to send information capsules back and fourth with their own FTL drives.[/QUOTE]
What? We're going into all this FTL business and we don't even have quantum entanglement communications?
I call bullshit.
Radiation can be stopped with a huge lead wall, what about hydrogen space ions makes it any different? They would just have to make the hull thick to stop the radiation.
Well at least we invented a new weapon of massive destruction. Later, when humans will colonize many planets and start warring between eachother, we can use it. Good news as usual!
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