[QUOTE=FrankOfArabia;38497658]I call bullshit.
Radiation can be stopped with a huge lead wall, what about hydrogen space ions makes it any different? They would just have to make the hull thick to stop the radiation.[/QUOTE]
The problem with that is that you're gonna need a lot of fucking lead.
Still, couldn't we warp communication devices?
I mean, currently our signals are all limited to the earth's reach, but what if we were able to more quickly send signals around the universe?
But we don't know what particle-waves that are blue-shifted to really really high frequencies do to you yet, right? Maybe they just pass trough you and do not interact with matter... just maybe. Thumbs up.
[QUOTE=Maucer;38500423]But we don't know what particle-waves that are blue-shifted to really really high frequencies do to you yet, right? Maybe they just pass trough you and do not interact with matter... just maybe. Thumbs up.[/QUOTE]
No, we know what they do.
Relativistic effects just shift low frequency light to higher frequency light, like gamma rays, and we know what those do to you.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;38500500]No, we know what they do.
Relativistic effects just shift low frequency light to higher frequency light, like gamma rays, and we know what those do to you.[/QUOTE]
A ship full of angry people doesn't sound too bad.
[QUOTE=ijyt;38501131]A ship full of angry people doesn't sound too bad.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://tgchan.org/kusaba/meep/src/131112089611.jpg[/img]
Really though... this sounds like a set back, but nothing more.
It doesn't sound like this is what will make warp drive impossible, only like something that will make it more complicated. Which with SCIENCE we will eventually be able to overcome.
Wait, if a projectile is FTL, does that mean you can't see it until after it's either hit or gone past you?
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Takes "never saw it coming" to an extreme.
[QUOTE=Rents;38501300]Wait, if a projectile is FTL, does that mean you can't see it until after it's either hit or gone past you?
[editline]18th November 2012[/editline]
Takes "never saw it coming" to an extreme.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the article on Tachyons on Wikipedia describes it best
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Tachyon04s.gif/250px-Tachyon04s.gif[/img]
[quote=Wikipedia]Because a tachyon always moves faster than light, we cannot see it approaching. After a tachyon has passed nearby, we would be able to see two images of it, appearing and departing in opposite directions. The black line is the shock wave of Cherenkov radiation, shown only in one moment of time. This double image effect is most prominent for an observer located directly in the path of a superluminal object (in this example a sphere, shown in grey). The right hand bluish shape is the image formed by the blue-doppler shifted light arriving at the observer—who is located at the apex of the black Cherenkov lines—from the sphere as it approaches. The left-hand reddish image is formed from red-shifted light that leaves the sphere after it passes the observer. Because the object arrives before the light, the observer sees nothing until the sphere starts to pass the observer, after which the image-as-seen-by-the-observer splits into two—one of the arriving sphere (to the right) and one of the departing sphere (to the left).[/quote]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon[/URL]
Test it on the moon
if the moon explodes, back to the drawing board
The Muslims will love FTL.
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And the Japanese.
[QUOTE=kaine123;38495806][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MCG3O.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
ugh that movie has to be the only one that's ever made me cringe
i recommend it if you like cringing
If it ever gets to such a stage, there could always be trial runs with unmanned vehicles, would probably be a bastard to get right though.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38492274]This makes kinetic kill weapons look sissy[/QUOTE]
They're as easy as throwing kitty litter out the airlock, actually. :v:
Well warp to the side of the target planet, not straight at it (unless you [i]want[/i] to vaporize it on arrival.) Duh.
Even ignoring the fact that top scientists are saying it's basically impossible, you guys need to consider that this would be absurdly dangerous when in mainstream use.
If someone wanted to, they could take out a planet with this. If that's not dangerous, I don't know what is.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;38510215]Even ignoring the fact that top scientists are saying it's basically impossible, you guys need to consider that this would be absurdly dangerous when in mainstream use.
If someone wanted to, they could take out a planet with this. If that's not dangerous, I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
I don't think this would ever be consumer tech? It'd be something like a NASA launch, organized by thousands of professionals and executed by "pilots" who devote a significant chunk of their life training for it.
[QUOTE=FpShepard;38491950][t]http://hermannk.org/media/oblivion.jpg[/t]
bring it on[/QUOTE]
Warp speed is bad for your skin:
[IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibaFc9Uhk5rHrm.jpg[/IMG]
Actually, MIT released a small game called "a slower speed of light" where you can see the wavelength/color/FOV/brightness distortion caused by approaching the speed of light.
[img]http://gamelab.mit.edu/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/speedoflight6.jpg[/img]
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[url]http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/[/url]
Why don't we build a star gate instead?
[QUOTE=BCell;38510565]Why don't we build a star gate instead?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1226646[/url]
Well to put things into perspective; ships going several thousands kilometers per second in space are as deadly planetcrackers as this FTL drive, and it applies to everyone.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;38500500]No, we know what they do.
Relativistic effects just shift low frequency light to higher frequency light, like gamma rays, and we know what those do to you.[/QUOTE]
For some reason I was thinking that going at 10c would turn all radiation into super-high frequency radiation we haven't seen before but then I realized that it's just 10*f which isn't really significant and when we talk about gamma rays =(
[QUOTE=mblunk;38510233]I don't think this would ever be consumer tech? It'd be something like a NASA launch, organized by thousands of professionals and executed by "pilots" who devote a significant chunk of their life training for it.[/QUOTE]
A similar thing could be said for aeroplanes.
Options:
a) Get scientists to increase the speed of light
b) Use computers experiencing time dilation to calculate at faster speeds than normally achievable, relative to us, to figure out how to achieve this after all
c) Whenever you launch a ship, launch an unmanned 'particle umbrella' first which will clear the way and be destroyed.
d) Start crying in lament of your WH40K fantasies.
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Oh man please don't take me seriously I'm so sorry
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;38513485]
c) Whenever you launch a ship, launch an unmanned 'particle umbrella' first which will clear the way and be destroyed.[/QUOTE]
That would still have the same issue as the ship, though. A better idea would be to have a shielded "warp bay" on the other end to target, but I don't know how accurate this technology will be over long distances.
[QUOTE=Lord Fear;38492784]I'm not sure if time dilation applies here though. I can be wrong of course.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it does, since the ship would technically itself not actually be going many times c. If it did apply, the ship arguably should go back in time as it travels, and I don't see that happening.
[QUOTE=MrBob1337;38492240]Could you just not point directly towards a target? There's a whole lot of space if you don't hit the planet you're flying to.[/QUOTE]
Gamma ray bursts from stars many light-years away are still (probably) incredibly deadly. There would be a pretty large distance you'd need to be away from inhabited planets.
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;38513485]b) Use computers experiencing time dilation to calculate at faster speeds than normally achievable, relative to us, to figure out how to achieve this after all[/QUOTE]
:|
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;38513485]Options:
a) Get scientists to increase the speed of light[/QUOTE]
Yeah...
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;38513485]
b) Use computers experiencing time dilation to calculate at faster speeds than normally achievable, relative to us, to figure out how to achieve this after all[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure you quite understand the concepts at work here.
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;38513485]
c) Whenever you launch a ship, launch an unmanned 'particle umbrella' first which will clear the way and be destroyed.[/QUOTE]
Either you launch it months or years earlier, or the umbrella releases a similar burst of death on arrival.
[url]http://what-if.xkcd.com/1/[/url]
If a baseball can supposedly level a whole city only by reaching 90% of light speed, then I wonder how high the property damage would be with a full-sized space ship.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;38514062]I'm not sure you quite understand the concepts at work here.
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I doubt it's what he meant, but you could arguably use time dilation in reverse if you were able to slow down an computer/put it in the right gravitational field.
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