• AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile
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You guys don't understand that this isn't just end of the rivalry between the two, but more of early beginning of the end of the PC platform.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;33491640]You guys don't understand that this isn't just end of the rivalry between the two, but more of early beginning of the end of the PC platform.[/QUOTE] What do you mean, PC's are a vital tool within todays society. They will never die out unless something better comes along.
AMD processors were always buggy and shite. They are called Nvdia cards! Look them up! Super reliable!
[QUOTE=Ylsid;33491410]Intel already overcharge for processors, what the hell?[/QUOTE] Are you joking? There is no price bracket above $100 where intel's equally priced chips are slower or less efficient than the AMD competition. Some of you AMD fans need to stop living in the days where it was the Core 2 series going against AMDs Phenom II chips. If Intel was overcharging then Sandy Bridge wouldn't have been so widely adopted and AMD bulldozer would have succeeded.
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;33491554]Let's face it, the desktop "PC" as we know it is dying off whether you like it or not. Over the short term (Next 2-10 Years) this is bad for high-end consumers, Over the long term (10-30 Years) it doesn't really mean anything because you'll all be carrying around mobile devices anyway and another strong competitor in this market is going to drive innovation. (ARM + nVidia needs a competitor)[/QUOTE] I'm very certain that the desktop PC will never, ever disappear purely because of how much power and storage they are capable of. No matter how advanced tablets and mobile devices get, a desktop will have them beat and people will still have use for that.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;33491640]You guys don't understand that this isn't just end of the rivalry between the two, but more of early beginning of the end of the PC platform.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but what? They're still going to be making processors for desktops, I don't see how this spells the end of the PC platform.
[QUOTE=Helios127;33491691]AMD processors were always buggy and shite. They are called Nvdia cards! Look them up! Super reliable![/QUOTE] I've used AMD for the past decade and have never had a single problem.
[QUOTE=Helios127;33491691]AMD processors were always buggy and shite. They are called Nvdia cards! Look them up! Super reliable![/QUOTE] Nominated for worst post of 2011.
[QUOTE=Coffee;33491715]I'm sorry but what? They're still going to be making processors for desktops, I don't see how this spells the end of the PC platform.[/QUOTE] Don't listen to him, he doesn't know what he's talking about. There is currently no platform that can replace PCs and everyone uses PCs.
Intel is mostly half-way decent, I don't think they'll [I]ACTUALLY [/I]jump on their new found monopoly right away and charge out the ass for shitty products. As cynical as you want to pretend to be, Intel's processors are fucking good. If AMD was really giving up, they would sell their CPU patents (that they have taken each other to court over, several times) to Intel so that Intel can finally make the very best piece of technology ever put on the consumer market, but I'm sure they will not.
[QUOTE=mr apple;33490043]My laptops running on an AMD processor...[/QUOTE] ~ Vintage ~~
This is bad news, but at least in the EU there's a legislation that prohibits using monopoly status wrongly, and an institution that keeps an eye on companies. So basically Intel can't sell their products with a ripoff price in the EU. But the shitty thing is, the technology isn't going to move forward as fast as it did. It takes such a massive amount of financial resources to make a facility that can produce hundreds of thousands of CPU chips (that can actually compete with Intel's technology), not to mention anything about the design and development, that we aren't going to see any competitors in the nearby future.
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;33491788]Intel is mostly half-way decent, I don't think they'll [I]ACTUALLY [/I]jump on their new found monopoly right away and charge out the ass for shitty products. As cynical as you want to pretend to be, Intel's processors are fucking good.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Nobody has any incentive to upgrade when you're getting mediocre products for high prices.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;33491640]You guys don't understand that this isn't just end of the rivalry between the two, but more of early beginning of the end of the PC platform.[/QUOTE] Ugh, that was just stupid.
[QUOTE=ripple3000;33491685]What do you mean, PC's are a vital tool within todays society. They will never die out unless something better comes along.[/QUOTE] Laptops and tablets are getting to be more common than a desktop.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;33491821]Exactly. Nobody has any incentive to upgrade when you're getting mediocre products for high prices.[/QUOTE] Apple. (I kid, I kid)
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;33491712]I'm very certain that the desktop PC will never, ever disappear purely because of how much power and storage they are capable of. No matter how advanced tablets and mobile devices get, a desktop will have them beat and people will still have use for that.[/QUOTE] Fact is though, the only people who need outright power are in the professional sector (I for example NEED 4 cores and 16GB of RAM to process audio). The rest of the world are gradually moving all their crap to the cloud anyway. 4 years ago I used MS Office for my daily document needs. Now I use Google Docs because I can get it anywhere at any time on any device. You can see this mentality creeping into the hardware... People just don't need outright power... All-In-Ones and tablets are an example of this. The Personal computer is turning from a mystical expensive box of tricks to an appliance like your toaster or microwave. Sad though it is for enthusiasts I do honestly believe that the way we access our data and use our data (All a computer is for!) is undergoing a pretty brisk paradigm shift.
[QUOTE=markg06;33491858]Laptops and tablets are getting to be more common than a desktop.[/QUOTE] "Common" does not necessarily mean "better". Desktops have an utterly massive performance advantage over laptops and tablets, and it's because of this that they'll remain necessary.
well fuck
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;33491875]Fact is though, the only people who need outright power are in the professional sector (I for example NEED 4 cores and 16GB of RAM to process audio). The rest of the world are gradually moving all their crap to the cloud anyway. 4 years ago I used MS Office for my daily document needs. Now I use Google Docs because I can get it anywhere at any time on any device. You can see this mentality creeping into the hardware... People just don't need outright power... All-In-Ones and tablets are an example of this. The Personal computer is turning from a mystical expensive box of tricks to an appliance like your toaster or microwave. Sad though it is for enthusiasts I do honestly believe that the way we access our data and use our data (All a computer is for!) is undergoing a pretty brisk paradigm shift.[/QUOTE] Offices still use desktops. A tablet isn't exactly useful for office work is it?
might as well grab any potential Intel CPUs before their prices go up
[QUOTE=markg06;33491858]Laptops and tablets are getting to be more common than a desktop.[/QUOTE] As much as I hate to disagree: [img]http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=desktop,+laptop&graph=weekly_img&sa=N[/img] But then again, I've never seen an office full of laptops or a home without a desktop. (Red is laptops, blue is dekstops)
[QUOTE=Coffee;33491957]Offices still use desktops. A tablet isn't exactly useful for office work is it?[/QUOTE] Our offices use dumb terminals, all the processing is done on a server with a fuckton of storage and processing power ;) (I designed the system) In fact I think most MASSIVE offices use dumb terminals of some sort?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;33491923]Not forever though, laptops get more powerful every year, computer components are getting cheaper and smaller too, eventually (as in a decade or two) they'll just stop making desktops for regular consumers all together.[/QUOTE] Why won't you just wrap it over your head that a desktop will always have more power - as today's components get smaller, tomorrow's get bigger. You can't for the life of you fit a GTX570 in a laptop, can you?
...looks like I won't be getting a new CPU for another 20 years
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;33491640]You guys don't understand that this isn't just end of the rivalry between the two, but more of early beginning of the end of the PC platform.[/QUOTE] AMD not keeping up with Intel hardly has anything to do with that. Also PC platform ending? Uhh no. What is happening is that people who just used their PC to check the email and play Farmville are just using their phone or tablet instead. Anyone who does more "serious" things with their PC won't be leaving it for a tablet.
I think people are misinterpreting my "The PC platform as we know it" as "The whole PC platform entirely".
And i just upgraded my motherboard. Fuck.
Aren't monopolies illegal?
i think its about time to upgrade
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