US and Israel working together on Iran, says Obama
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Bush gets us into Iraq, Obama might get us into Iran. I love our leaders.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34580174]They give weapons, rockets, mortars and missiles, so why not?[/QUOTE]
Since flagdog is disabled I can't tell where you're from. I'm assuming you're a zealot in occupied Palestine from your train of thought.
[editline]6th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34581009]Bush gets us into Iraq, Obama might get us into Iran. I love our leaders.[/QUOTE]
And Afghanistan.
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581096]Since flagdog is disabled I can't tell where you're from. I'm assuming you're a zealot in occupied Palestine from your train of thought.
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DogGunn is right, though. Iran arms and funds terrorists. If a nuclear weapon in the hands of terrorists would advance their interests, why wouldn't they give one up?
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581096]Since flagdog is disabled I can't tell where you're from. I'm assuming you're a zealot in occupied Palestine from your train of thought.[/quote]
If you're insinuating that I am from Israel, you couldn't be more incorrect, and yet you're willing to call me a zealot. Impressive - in the one sentence, you managed to prove that you're a zealot of the other sort by calling it 'occupied Palestine' and giving no reason for why I am wrong.
I've now seen enough of your arguments to determine that you're far from a rational person.
I've determined that your brain is flawed.
And I've determined that you're an angry zealot with no rational argument left within.
"Iran says its programmes are for peaceful purposes."
The definition of peace they refer to is more than likely not the peace we are thinking off
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581215]And I've determined that you're an angry zealot with no rational argument left within.[/QUOTE]
I aint sure if trolling or stupid.
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581267]I aint sure if trolling or stupid.[/QUOTE]
lol
Ahh, so you're either stupid or trolling if you have a disagreeing opinion to Woomp - of course, this still holds true if Woomp makes a personal comment with nothing to back it up.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581324]Ahh, so you're either stupid or trolling if you have a disagreeing opinion to Woomp - of course, this still holds true if Woomp makes a personal comment with nothing to back it up.[/QUOTE]
Bro, he's trolling lol can't you tell?
What leads you to believe Iran would give a Nuclear weapon to a terrorist group.
No. Not going to happen ever. If you think they're that incompetent you need to leave.
[editline]6th February 2012[/editline]
By your logic, US is supplying Nukes to MKO
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34581342]Bro, he's trolling lol can't you tell?[/QUOTE]
I'd hope so, but I doubt it - there are people that stupid out there.
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581343]What leads you to believe Iran would give a Nuclear weapon to a terrorist group.
No. Not going to happen ever. If you think they're that incompetent you need to leave.[/QUOTE]
Incompetence plays no part in it. Iran has openly stated that by progressing their anti-Zionist or anti-Israel involves helping certain groups. It's known that those groups are terrorist organisations - so Iran giving a developed nuclear weapon to one of those groups is not farfetched.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581396]I'd hope so, but I doubt it - there are people that stupid out there.
Incompetence plays no part in it. Iran has openly stated that by progressing their anti-Zionist or anti-Israel involves helping certain groups. It's known that those groups are terrorist organisations - so Iran giving a developed nuclear weapon to one of those groups is not farfetched.[/QUOTE]
By your logic, USA is supplying terrorist groups such as the MKO with nuclear weapons?
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581466]By your logic, USA is supplying terrorist groups such as the MKO with nuclear weapons?[/QUOTE]
No, not at all - the United States doesn't constantly threaten the annihilation of any country. Iran does on a consistent basis.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581498]No, not at all - the United States doesn't constantly threaten the annihilation of any country. Iran does on a consistent basis.[/QUOTE]
Source?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581498]No, not at all - the United States doesn't constantly threaten the annihilation of any country. Iran does on a consistent basis.[/QUOTE]
Hah. Israel. Palestine.
Also Iran doesnt do it on a consistent basis, stop spewing the nonsense you hear on the news.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581324]Ahh, so you're either stupid or trolling if you have a disagreeing opinion to Woomp - of course, this still holds true if Woomp makes a personal comment with nothing to back it up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34581342]Bro, he's trolling lol can't you tell?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581343]What leads you to believe Iran would give a Nuclear weapon to a terrorist group.
No. Not going to happen ever. If you think they're that incompetent you need to leave.
[editline]6th February 2012[/editline]
By your logic, US is supplying Nukes to MKO[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581396]I'd hope so, but I doubt it - there are people that stupid out there.
Incompetence plays no part in it. Iran has openly stated that by progressing their anti-Zionist or anti-Israel involves helping certain groups. It's known that those groups are terrorist organisations - so Iran giving a developed nuclear weapon to one of those groups is not farfetched.[/QUOTE]
*Grabs popcorn*
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581526]Source?[/QUOTE]
Source for what? A statement in the negative?
[QUOTE=Sickle;34581529]Hah. Israel. Palestine.[/quote]
What?
[QUOTE=Sickle;34581529]Also Iran doesnt do it on a consistent basis, stop spewing the nonsense you hear on the news.[/QUOTE]
Even once is enough, but regardless it does happen on a fairly regular basis. Iran also threatens the people of Israel directly, which proves they have no degrees of separation for the people of Israel and the leaders of the country.
Israel can go fuck itself, we've been metaphorically sucking their dicks for long enough.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34581620]Israel can go fuck itself, we've been metaphorically sucking their dicks for long enough.[/QUOTE]
The complexity of an average Facepunch argument.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581569]Source for what? A statement in the negative?[/quote]
No, this..
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581498]No, not at all - the United States doesn't constantly threaten the [B]annihilation of any country. Iran does on a consistent basis.[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34567402]He's the president. It's PRESIDENT Obama or Mr. PRESIDENT. Jeez, like him or not get it right.[/QUOTE]
reminds me of during the campaign all the racist motherfuckers on fox news were saying obama wants to be sworn in as BARRACK [b][u]HUSSEIN[/u][/b] obama and how that is somehow newsworthy, something to discuss all day and have panels talk about it. They would quote him saying that's what he wanted to be sworn in as, and then say he wants to be called HUSSEIN.. yeah.. cause that's his fucking name. It's disgraceful how they treat Obama. There are so many things to criticize him for, and all they choose is to say he is raising peoples taxes by keeping them all the same rates as bush.
[QUOTE=Woomp;34581650]No, this..[/QUOTE]
Ahh, the good old Iran has never threatened the annihilation of Israel... no point in me posting any source, because there will always be an explanation so poor (for why Iran never meant that) that only a completely biased proponent could accept.
Sane people on either side of the argument accept that Iran has threatened Israel at one point or another, regardless of if they are believed to have justification or not.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581569]
Even once is enough, but regardless it does happen on a fairly regular basis.[B] Iran also threatens the people of Israel directly, which proves they have no degrees of separation for the people of Israel and the leaders of the country.[/B][/QUOTE]
More source.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581569]No, not at all - the United States doesn't [B]constantly threaten the annihilation of any country[/B]. Iran does on a consistent basis.
What?[/QUOTE]
Iran doesn't threaten that either, but there is a country that has nukes and does threaten the existence of Palestine on a consistent basis. Israel.
[editline]7th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581769]Ahh, the good old Iran has never threatened the annihilation of Israel... no point in me posting any source, because there will always be an explanation so poor (for why Iran never meant that) that only a completely biased proponent could accept.
Sane people on either side of the argument accept that Iran has threatened Israel at one point or another, regardless of if they are believed to have justification or not.[/QUOTE]
Are you referring to '[URL="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527"]Wiped off the Map[/URL]'?
Also; where are you making this shit up? I need the website/substance you use.
[quote]Sane people on either side of the argument accept that Iran has threatened Israel at one point or another, regardless of if they are believed to have justification or not.[/quote]
There have been no direct threats to Israel, and no direct threats implied at the people rather than the leadership.
Seriously, I need some of that shit.
[editline]7th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;34581769]Ahh, the good old Iran has never threatened the annihilation of Israel...[B] no point in me posting any source[/B][/QUOTE]
You realize you lose the argument right there, right?
We don't need another war. Wow, we need to keep our noses out of other people's shit.
The level of shitpositng and repeating the same arguments in these threads makes me think there are those that get sexual pleasure from talking about how terrible Israel is.
Answer me this if you would. Iran has never explicitly stated "We're gonna kill everyone", what do you interpret from the situation then? The regime bullshit everyone repeats, what would they want put in it's place? Israel has never explicitly stated they have nukes either, do you take their word for it too?
[QUOTE=Devodiere;34582160]The level of shitpositng and repeating the same arguments in these threads makes me think there are those that get sexual pleasure from talking about how terrible Israel is.
Answer me this if you would. Iran has never explicitly stated "We're gonna kill everyone", what do you interpret from the situation then? The regime bullshit everyone repeats, what would they want put in it's place? Israel has never explicitly stated they have nukes either, do you take their word for it too?[/QUOTE]
I believe he did say something in some speech or to some diplomat, and I'm not try to be funny or anything, I am not sure if this is exactly what he said or not, but I'm 90% sure he did....
"I will wipe Israel from the face of the Earth"
[QUOTE=crackberry;34594693]I believe he did say something in some speech or to some diplomat, and I'm not try to be funny or anything, I am not sure if this is exactly what he said or not, but I'm 90% sure he did....
"I will wipe Israel from the face of the Earth"[/QUOTE]
That quote wasn't mentioned. I had been looking at his speeches and couldn't find a definite proof for him wanting to "destroy Israel".
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/jun/14/post155[/url]
[QUOTE=crackberry;34594693]I believe he did say something in some speech or to some diplomat, and I'm not try to be funny or anything, I am not sure if this is exactly what he said or not, but I'm 90% sure he did....
"I will wipe Israel from the face of the Earth"[/QUOTE]
It was a mistranslation of what he said. Literally, what was said was: "The occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time."
Now some say one way or the other, but the official English translation of what Ahmedinejad said is that.
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