Mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik threatens to hunger-strike himself to death due to stricter pri
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Keep the guy in prison and keep him from trying to kill himself or others. Not sure why some people in this thread cannot understand this.... On another note, how would they force feed the guy? Would the prison doctors just feed him through Parenteral nutrition at that point?
This thread really made me have hope for humanity again, because Facebook just makes the world look like mindless revenge-thirsty psychopaths. Thank you!
[QUOTE=viper shtf;48795933]Do y'all also disagree with putting down rabid animals? This wanker is essentially the same thing, except vastly more dangerous, and much more at fault. Not a dog's fault if it gets rabies after all.[/QUOTE]
Well, you could also put an actual rabid dog in solitary for the rest of its life, and feed it and stuff.
That's kind of a bad idea, but tbh I don't see why Breivik shouldn't be allowed just normal prison conditions for a solitary inmate. Or are his living conditions that bad and restricted because of his crime? Also why not put him to some work, with other inmates as wel? Train dogs, or farm some shit.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797025]Because most western governments fail to properly dispense justice for the most hideous crimes one can commit. As stated before, for me, justice is proper punishment. This doesn't mean that shoplifters or burglars should be executed. They have a chance at rehabilitation still.
You have a point, it will not change what has happened but it can send a message to everyone contemplating to commit those crimes that society will punish them for their acts, unless it's an impulsive act. In that case, there will be proper justice for the victim and/or their relatives.[/QUOTE]
Your entire argument is based on the tenuous assumption that "justice is proper punishment". Given how legal scholars have spent entire careers debating this point, I don't think your simple assertion can be taken seriously.
In any case, there are many studies showing that severe punishment has little to no effect on crime rates; instead, certainty of punishment is a better deterrent:
[url]http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10610-008-9097-0[/url]
[url]http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5880&context=jclc[/url]
[url]http://nij.gov/five-things/pages/deterrence.aspx[/url]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]I doubt anything will quell your bloodlust if logic and reason so far haven't. This is why people want you to seek help. You have a similar mindset to a killer because you lack empathy, compassion with people you dislike, let alone with anyone else if all it takes is a single action to go from "Human" to "Untermensch".[/QUOTE]
I do have empathy and compassion, but not for those who can commit murder and such. But hey, maybe you know me better than I do.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]How do you decide "Proper justice"? Is "Proper Justice" retribution? Says who? In modern society, we don't see that as "Justice" but as "Vengeance" and vengeance and justice are wildly different concepts. [/QUOTE]
It's not vengeance, it's punishment. Being locked up in a prison cell that looks like a hotel room is not a punishment. I just happen to support punishment over rehabilitation in the most extreme cases. Nowhere in this debate have I stated that I support the execution of every criminal. Just the worst ones.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]Do you think criminals DON'T experience suffering? What do you think made them become criminals in the first place? How do you think poor people turn to crime? Through suffering and desiring a better life.
People like Mr Brevik are just insane and there is no helping them, or likely to be no helping them.
But to kill them, and torture them to "Deter" people(Which you admit is a bullshit reason, so you have to come up with another one) or to get "Proper Justice" is a misunderstanding of what the justice system is for. It is not for you to get your hands bloody vicariously.[/QUOTE]
To be perfectly honest, I don't care if they suffer. Their choices have led to a situation where they'll face punishment. It's that simple. And as said, I do not support execution of every criminal. Just the worst ones. One shouldn't get executed over theft or something. The deterrent part would work if someone is planning to commit murder or rape. I just admitted that it won't work if the crime was impulsive, such as "oh look, there's a woman there in a dark park all alone. Gonna rape her".
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]Except based on already established laws and ethics, being "The Punisher" from Marvel comics is illegal and casting asperions of death upon anyone who commits a crime is little more than being a bloodthirsty vigilante, a fucking criminal after all. Internalizing that INTO the justice system so the justice system itself is a system of violent retribution is not going to help anything. Do you want to know why I know that it won't do anything?
Because for ALL of our history, we did that. And for ALL of our history, we FAILED UTTERLY AND ENTIRELY to quell the misery of crime and violence with more violence. You are wrong. Flat out fucking historically wrong.[/QUOTE]
Like stated before, no one would cast death upon every criminal. And society was different before with mass poverty, diseases whatnot, which means that people didn't give a shit about getting the death penalty. Today, social welfare systems prevent extreme poverty and advanced healthcare has increased the overall health of the population. This means that no one will commit murder over 100$ or a television nowadays. Today, some people would give a shit because they had a choice. Don't murder someone and live, or murder someone and get death penalty.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]What you believe about people has no relevance on the reality of their humanity.
Again, seek help. You truly believe you are a diviner of human value, you truly believe you are above other people, and THAT'S what makes you like Brevik, more than like a sane person.[/QUOTE]
I never said I am above other people. Please prove when I stated that I'm above other HUMANS. I just said that humanity (you, me and everyone) is above rapists, murderers, child molesters and subhuman scum like them.
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[QUOTE=Explosions;48797004]Which planet are rapists from and which planet are murderers from? Are rapists from Mars and murderers from Planet X? Or are they demons spawned from the Underworld?
I'm still waiting for you to explain why the ancient and medieval world wasn't extremely peaceful, considering that people were routinely and publicly tortured to death for crimes that are far more trivial than rape or murder.[/QUOTE]
Because back then, people died from disease and extreme poverty as much as from death penalty. Today, extreme poverty is prevented by social welfare (in most developed countries) and most diseases from back then are gone. That's why it didn't work back then. There was death all over the place.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797216]I do have empathy and compassion, but not for those who can commit murder and such.[/QUOTE]
That is 100% contradictory. Please seek emotional help. I've been where you are now and its a hell you wish on anyone you can justify.
Please seek help man. I'm serious.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48795981]I fail to understand how you can make that connection. Are you seriously comparing a human being to an animal?[/QUOTE]
Humans are animals. Smarter, and more thumb having, but still animals.
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48797264]That is 100% contradictary. Please seek emotional help. I've been where you are now and its a hell you wish on anyone you can justify.
Please seek help man. I'm serious.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not contradictory. Actually, it shows he has a clear moral compass and can distinguish between what is right and what is wrong-- hence his ability to regulate his emotions as a reaction to these distinctions.
Not sure why this would be hard to understand. It's possible to have empathy and compassion for some people but not for others. It's possible to feel certain emotions for some people, and completely opposite emotions for others (i.e. love for one person, disgust for another). Or even indifferent for others.
If you feel one way or another all the time though and it's causing you problems, that's when you should seek help. But he clearly doesn't. So stop trying to say there's something wrong with him when in fact he's just based off the information given apparently a mentally-healthy individual.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]"Gravity doesn't exist"
"The earth is flat"
both opinions. Both are wrong. Opinions can be wrong. Your opinions on this issue are not supported by reality. They are not supported by what happens in real life.
Your views cannot be used to create a model of reality that is accurate. So why is it right if all it is is incorrect and factually unsupported?[/QUOTE]
Opinions can indeed be wrong. In your opinion, my views are not supported by reality and what happens in real life and I believe they're wrong. Saudi Arabia is relatively free from murder for instance so my opinion on harsh punishment is in fact supported in real life and used in many countries that leftists view as backwards or primitive. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Saudi_Arabia[/url]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]I believe that in order to classify someone as "Subhuman" you NEED to be emotional, and you need an emotional detachment at the same time to justify their death without a thought as you clearly have.
I don't disagree that those things hardly seem like something they deserve. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean torturing them actually benefits society, YOU AND ME, at all. Torturing them doesn't create a better world. It doesn't stop them. It doesn't make them better.
It makes them worse.
Do you know what American Prisons are known as to criminals? What they happily refer to them as?
Con-College. It's a place they go in soft, and come out harder than ever, and more ready to commit crimes than ever. And in that system, it's ALL about what you like. It's all about torture, punishment, deprivation.
And yet, UNDER YOUR SYSTEM, they come out to be more dangerous than ever.
So you are again, wrong, incorrect, factually unsupported.[/QUOTE]
Why do I need to be emotionally detached in order to justify the execution of a murderer for instance? It makes sense that a murderer should get the death penalty, as he or she is a danger to society. Or maybe you think we should give them a hug, an apple pie and tell them that they are the real victim here, like most leftists do? Why is someone automatically emotionally detached if they don't feel sorry for the criminals?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss]Unless you can define proper justice without just using "Proper justice" as it's own self defining term, you can stop trying to argue that because it's worthless.
Again, how YOU feel is not an indicator of anything but how tenuous your grasp on reality really is.[/QUOTE]
The definition of justice is, in most cases, decided by politicians. In general, it's either punishment or rehabilitation. I just happen to define justice as punishment IN THE MOST EXTREME CASES. You define justice as something else.
And again, you seem to know me really well. Have we met? I believe that my grasp on reality is good. Maybe we should get to know each other on a personal level before you start accusing me of being insane and having no grasp on reality. I could tell you about many situations in which I acted completely normal, non-violent and with empathy but if you wish to hear about it, I will PM you since it would be off topic in this thread. In fact, I have never acted violent in a situation where violence was not necessary (except maybe beating up or attempting to beat up a bully on some occasions).
So if you murder/attempt to murder one person, then death penalty should be always imposed? How about you start with an indefinite prison sentence?
I believe as the general rule of thumb, criminals should be put to work. And like Capitalism 101 says, treat your workers nicely so they will do a nice job. Refuse to work? Fine, but no pay/benefits. You really want to execute a mass-murderer/a particular criminal? Also fine, I guess, because marginally it makes no difference, as long as the execution method is swift, merciful and relatively painless (because we're not animals).
But from an utilitarian standpoint, criminals are an important capital resource, just like the rest of us. See this.
I agree that death penalty isn't necessarily about vengeance or revenge though, which is what many people fail to realize. Why? Because let's say we made [I]yawning[/I] punishable by death through some very careless lawmaking. So when people yawn, we will simply carry out the punishment in the name of following the law, and not in the name of personal vengeance.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797216]I do have empathy and compassion, but not for those who can commit murder and such. But hey, maybe you know me better than I do. [/quote]
Selective empathy might as well not be empathy, nor is empathy relevant to this discussion anyways. Punishment is objectively a flawed system and has never deterred crime. I'd go so far as to say that the punishment system in place in places such as the US actually dramatically increase the crime rates.
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It's not vengeance, it's punishment. Being locked up in a prison cell that looks like a hotel room is not a punishment. I just happen to support punishment over rehabilitation in the most extreme cases. Nowhere in this debate have I stated that I support the execution of every criminal. Just the worst ones.[/quote]
So how do you arbitrarily draw the line between something being extreme enough to warrant punishment over rehabilitation?
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To be perfectly honest, I don't care if they suffer. Their choices have led to a situation where they'll face punishment. It's that simple. And as said, I do not support execution of every criminal. Just the worst ones. One shouldn't get executed over theft or something. The deterrent part would work if someone is planning to commit murder or rape. I just admitted that it won't work if the crime was impulsive, such as "oh look, there's a woman there in a dark park all alone. Gonna rape her".
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Deterrence doesn't work even if it was premeditated. Especially if its premeditated. Premeditated murderers generally don't expect to be caught.
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Like stated before, no one would cast death upon every criminal. And society was different before with mass poverty, diseases whatnot, which means that people didn't give a shit about getting the death penalty. Today, social welfare systems prevent extreme poverty and advanced healthcare has increased the overall health of the population. This means that no one will commit murder over 100$ or a television nowadays. Today, some people would give a shit because they had a choice. Don't murder someone and live, or murder someone and get death penalty. [/quote]
You have no idea what you're talking about. People very quickly will murder someone over 100 dollars or a television these days. The threat of the death penalty has NEVER stopped murder from happening in the thousands of years its been in place.
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I never said I am above other people. Please prove when I stated that I'm above other HUMANS. I just said that humanity (you, me and everyone) is above rapists, murderers, child molesters and subhuman scum like them.[/quote]
Lol subhuman? Committing a crime no matter how violent should never make you "subhuman". Classifying ANYONE as subhuman is retarded in any context.
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Because back then, people died from disease and extreme poverty as much as from death penalty. Today, extreme poverty is prevented by social welfare (in most developed countries) and most diseases from back then are gone. That's why it didn't work back then. There was death all over the place.[/QUOTE]
Lol you have no idea what you're talking about still. Extreme poverty is PREVALENT in a large portion of the first world. All I need to do to see extreme poverty is go to downtown LA and look at the hundreds of people sleeping in their own piss and shit because they can't get into the overly full missions. You have extremely sheltered views on society
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48797381]Selective empathy might as well not be empathy, nor is empathy relevant to this discussion anyways. Punishment is objectively a flawed system and has never deterred crime. I'd go so far as to say that the punishment system in place in places such as the US actually dramatically increase the crime rates.
So how do you arbitrarily draw the line between something being extreme enough to warrant punishment over rehabilitation?
Deterrence doesn't work even if it was premeditated. Especially if its premeditated. Premeditated murderers generally don't expect to be caught.
You have no idea what you're talking about. People very quickly will murder someone over 100 dollars or a television these days. The threat of the death penalty has NEVER stopped murder from happening in the thousands of years its been in place.
Lol subhuman? Committing a crime no matter how violent should never make you "subhuman". Classifying ANYONE as subhuman is retarded in any context.
Lol you have no idea what you're talking about still. Extreme poverty is PREVALENT in a large portion of the first world. All I need to do to see extreme poverty is go to downtown LA and look at the hundreds of people sleeping in their own piss and shit because they can't get into the overly full missions. You have extremely sheltered views on society[/QUOTE]
The most horrible crimes such as murder, rape and molesting children. These disgusting freaks should not exist. And selective empathy is completely normal. No one should be obliged to to have empathy towards murderers.
And even if someone does murder a person over 100 dollars and/or a TV, it will be the last thing they do. They will be punished once caught and arrested.
Is there anything human about someone that can rape and murder?
And I most certainly have no sheltered views on society since I live in a neighborhood with loads of crime. But in general, the poverty situation isn't that extreme in Sweden.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797433]The most horrible crimes such as murder, rape and molesting children. These disgusting freaks should not exist. And selective empathy is completely normal. No one should be obliged to to have empathy towards murderers. [/quote]
What you have isn't even empathy though. Its selective dehumanization.
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And even if someone does murder a person over 100 dollars and/or a TV, it will be the last thing they do. They will be punished once caught and arrested.[/quote]
And then when they eventually get out they repeat the crime. Unless your insinuating that we keep them in our overflowing prisons for life.
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Is there anything human about someone that can rape and murder?[/quote]
Uhh?? Yes??? Doing horrific things does not remove your status as a human. Humans are fully capable of doing horrific shit.
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And I most certainly have no sheltered views on society since I live in a neighborhood with loads of crime. But in general, the poverty situation isn't that extreme in Sweden.[/QUOTE]
If you grew up in a bad neighborhood you wouldn't be saying the asinine shit you're saying.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48797470]What you have isn't even empathy though. Its selective dehumanization.
And then when they eventually get out they repeat the crime. Unless your insinuating that we keep them in our overflowing prisons for life.
Uhh?? Yes??? Doing horrific things does not remove your status as a human. Humans are fully capable of doing horrific shit.
If you grew up in a bad neighborhood you wouldn't be saying the asinine shit you're saying.[/QUOTE]
You call it selective dehumanization, I call it selective empathy. I don't think it's logical to have empathy for murderers.
And rehabilitation would be used for those who don't murder, rape and do the most horrific things.
I just don't see those who do horrific stuff as humans. They're monsters at the very best.
And growing up in a bad neighborhood is a part of why I want stricter punishments.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797498]You call it selective dehumanization, I call it selective empathy. I don't think it's logical to have empathy for murderers.[/quote]
Empathy is not based on logic. Let me put it like this, most murderers are murderers due to the circumstances surrounding their life and their upbringing, not due to any inherent flaw in their being. This means that given different circumstances that killer could've been you.
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And rehabilitation would be used for those who don't murder, rape and do the most horrific things. [/quote]
Define "horrific things".
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I just don't see those who do horrific stuff as humans. They're monsters at the very best.[/quote]
Dehumanizing them not only doesn't solve problems, it contributes to them.
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And growing up in a bad neighborhood is a part of why I want stricter punishments.[/QUOTE]
I honestly doubt the neighborhood you grew up in was that bad. Feel free to disprove that assumption
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797326]Opinions can indeed be wrong. In your opinion, my views are not supported by reality and what happens in real life and I believe they're wrong. Saudi Arabia is relatively free from murder for instance so my opinion on harsh punishment is in fact supported in real life and used in many countries that leftists view as backwards or primitive. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Saudi_Arabia[/url]
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I never thought I'd see the day somebody uses fucking SAUDI ARABIA as an example of a country with a good justice system. Also your own source contradicts you, it states that the majority of sexual assaults go unreported, which you know, is because Saudi Arabia is a backwards-ass country that would sooner blame the victims of assault than the assailants. Oh yeah, Saudi Arabia is also a prime destination for children trafficked from all over the Middle East. I thought you hated pedophiles?
It straight up says that trafficking (both drug and people) occur on a massive scale on underground channels. Just because crimes are not reported doesn't mean they didn't occur.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48797539]Empathy is not based on logic. Let me put it like this, most murderers are murderers due to the circumstances surrounding their life and their upbringing, not due to any inherent flaw in their being. This means that given different circumstances that killer could've been you.
Define "horrific things".
Dehumanizing them not only doesn't solve problems, it contributes to them.
I honestly doubt the neighborhood you grew up in was that bad. Feel free to disprove that assumption[/QUOTE]
No matter the circumstances, unless it's a case of self defense, murder is not acceptable. Their actions should lead to punishment.
Horrific things include but are not limited to murder, rape and molesting children.
Here are some of the events from my neighborhood: shootouts, arson, attempted murder, rape, armed robberies, drug and gun trafficking.
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[QUOTE=Squidman;48797542]I never thought I'd see the day somebody uses fucking SAUDI ARABIA as an example of a country with a good justice system. Also your own source contradicts you, it states that the majority of sexual assaults go unreported, which you know, is because Saudi Arabia is a backwards-ass country that would sooner blame the victims of assault than the assailants. Oh yeah, Saudi Arabia is also a prime destination for children trafficked from all over the Middle East. I thought you hated pedophiles?
It straight up says that trafficking (both drug and people) occur on a massive scale on underground channels. Just because crimes are not reported doesn't mean they didn't occur.[/QUOTE]
Since this thread is about a mass-murderer, I looked at the murder rates. And it does state that the trafficked children are used "[...]for the purpose of forced begging and involuntary servitude as street vendors." Not for sexual acts.
And of course I know that all crimes don't get reported.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797498]You call it selective dehumanization, I call it selective empathy. I don't think it's logical to have empathy for murderers.
And rehabilitation would be used for those who don't murder, rape and do the most horrific things.
I just don't see those who do horrific stuff as humans. They're monsters at the very best.
And growing up in a bad neighborhood is a part of why I want stricter punishments.[/QUOTE]
You don't need to have empathy for someone, but you must respect the fact that they are a human being with hopes and aspirations, however warped they are to you. Your definition of "horrific things" can be easily twisted by a state to include things like "being a Jew" (Nazi Germany), "being an Armenian" (Ottoman empire), "adultery" (Saudi Arabia), or "being gay" (Iran). We cannot allow ourselves to define what kind of crimes are deserving of death, because such a definition is necessarily arbitrary.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797498]You call it selective dehumanization, I call it selective empathy. I don't think it's logical to have empathy for murderers.[/QUOTE]
You're actually being pretty emotional rather than rational.
If you were to be perfectly rational, and a long line of murderers/killers, rapists etc. in chains were brought in front of you, you should be open to a lot more possibilities as to what to do with them, other than putting them all to death. Like viewing them as able-bodied workers? As a capital resource, hmm? No?
The current societal norm should also be one of the deciding factors when making rational fucking decisions, like the fact that it's against EU constitution lol, but never mind the EU.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48794061]Who gives a fuck. How can anyone sympathize with this sick piece of shit?[/QUOTE]
As a civilized society with have this weird concept called human rights. Hell, if you plan on calling him an animal we also have animal rights.
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Since this thread is about a mass-murderer, I looked at the murder rates. And it does state that the trafficked children are used "[...]for the purpose of forced begging and involuntary servitude as street vendors." Not for sexual acts.
And of course I know that all crimes don't get reported.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]However according to criminology researcher Dr. Ali Wardak, ranking societies on the basis of official crime rates may be problematic, as in Saudi Arabia criminal complaints are resolved outside formal judicial institutions and as a consequence remain undocumented by the police.[7][/QUOTE]
And uh, you'd have to be completely delusional to assume they only traffic children to be used as beggars and forced labor.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;48797620]You're actually being pretty emotional rather than rational.
If you were to be truly rational, and a long line of murderers/killers, rapists etc. were brought in chains in front of you, you should be open to a lot more possibilities as to what to do with them, other than putting them all to death. Like viewing them as able-bodied workers? As a capital resource, hmm? No?
The current societal norm should also be one of the deciding factors when making rational fucking decisions, like the fact that it's against EU constitution lol, but that's just the EU.[/QUOTE]
Well sure, they can be used to test experimental medicine or as workers, as I stated before. It will benefit society and they will be paying for their crimes that way.
Introducing death penalty is one of my wishes but I realize that it isn't happening with the EU laws and whatnot. But everyone has dreams, right?
And CoilingTesla, I'd appreciate if you stopped labeling me as psychotic because my opinion isn't the same as yours. Since you are such a rational and emphatic person, you should know that labeling someone as psychotic is quite rude and insulting.
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[QUOTE=Squidman;48797676]And uh, you'd have to be completely delusional to assume they only traffic children to be used as beggars and forced labor.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I worded that wrong, so I stand corrected once again. It's still awful that children are being trafficked.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797706]Well sure, they can be used to test experimental medicine or as workers, as I stated before. It will benefit society and they will be paying for their crimes that way.
Introducing death penalty is one of my wishes but I realize that it isn't happening with the EU laws and whatnot. But everyone has dreams, right?
And CoilingTesla, I'd appreciate if you stopped labeling me as psychotic because my opinion isn't the same as yours. Since you are such a rational and emphatic person, you should know that labeling someone as psychotic is quite rude and insulting.
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Maybe I worded that wrong, so I stand corrected once again. It's still awful that children are being trafficked.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to have insulted you, but your views are completely indicative of psychosis. I'm not trying to fuck with you or belittle you, I've been through it. How can one psychologist appointment hurt you?
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48797755]Sorry to have insulted you, but your views are completely indicative of psychosis. I'm not trying to fuck with you or belittle you, I've been through it. How can one psychologist appointment hurt you?[/QUOTE]
Could you kindly tell me what part of psychosis correlates to my opinions? I don't hallucinate, I am not delusional, I don't suffer from catatonia and I don't have thought disorders. Are you a certified psychologist maybe?
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797498]I just don't see those who do horrific stuff as humans. They're monsters at the very best.[/QUOTE]
this is the most emotional, naive, oversimplified way of thinking. killers don't grow on trees or sprout from the ground. every one of those murders, rapes, sackings and massacres was done by a human. people can do bad things. making murder sound appealing is not worth the self-delusion it takes to deny that.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48794276]No it doesn't, IIRC, Norway's max sentence is 20 years. He'll be a threat again once he gets out. If he killed [B]70 people[/B] he needs [I]at least[/I] life without parole. Not 20 years. Bank robbers in the US get 20 years. His sentence is a bullshit slap in the face for those affected.[/QUOTE]
He will get another 20 years after his current 20 are up.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48797799]Could you kindly tell me what part of psychosis correlates to my opinions? I don't hallucinate, I am not delusional, I don't suffer from catatonia and I don't have thought disorders. Are you a certified psychologist maybe?[/QUOTE]
Sorry but you do seem pretty delusional, and people who suffer from psychosis pretty much never realize it themselves because it's "normal" to them.
[QUOTE=Crimor;48797992]Sorry but you do seem pretty delusional, and people who suffer from psychosis pretty much never realize it themselves because it's "normal" to them.[/QUOTE]
Okey but can you kindly tell me what exactly makes me delusional? I function in society, I have a working moral compass, I don't commit crimes, I don't use violence in situations where it can be avoided. I know my opinions are extreme and very very backwards but they say nothing about my personality. They only reveal my political views, which are strongly conservative. No one of those who have labeled me as insane/delusional/psychotic know anything about my personality and how I interact with society. I just find it very insulting since the accusations lack any form of proof other than my extreme opinions.
You wish that people you consider subhuman or "monsters" to be tortured and/or executed, for one.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798071]Okey but can you kindly tell me what exactly makes me delusional? I function in society, I have a working moral compass, I don't commit crimes, I don't use violence in situations where it can be avoided. I know my opinions are extreme and very very backwards but they say nothing about my personality. They only reveal my political views, which are strongly conservative. No one of those who have labeled me as insane/delusional/psychotic know anything about my personality and how I interact with society. I just find it very insulting since the accusations lack any form of proof other than my extreme opinions.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder[/url] for one.
It may not "click" with you, so I highly recommend seeking professional help. It's for you, not anyone else.
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