• Mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik threatens to hunger-strike himself to death due to stricter pri
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48798621]Because anyone who can segregate any portion of the human populous and say "I don't care, I'm right, they deserve to die" is insane [editline]30th September 2015[/editline] Yes, pointing out that I use big letters for emphasis proves I'm emotionally invested Or God forbid People type differently than you do. Fucking wild thought right[/QUOTE] I mean, you're cursing and swearing a lot as well, and you are using an antagonistic tone. That tells me that your emotions are heightened.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;48798325]What the fuck is this shit? Why are people saying that it's objectively proven that punishment has never deterred crime? What an asinine thing to say. So you're saying that no one has ever thought, "nah stealing this is not really worth the risk of going to jail for months"? Fuck, the only reason I buy fare tickets for trains is because the fine is really high even if the odds of getting caught are low.[/quote] Perhaps because the US with its strictly punishment based legal system has one of the highest reoffender rates in the world and has overflowing prisons? [quote] How did you figure out that no one EVER thought of murdering someone and decided not to because they were afraid of being caught and being sentenced to die themselves? You'd have to know who thought of murdering someone and decided not to. Are you a mind reader? .[/QUOTE] Punishment is a shit deterrence because if people are going to commit murder they also either believe they won't get caught or they don't care.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798631]In my opinion, it makes sense that the most gruesome crimes should be punished by death. And sure, you're free to continue with "I don't like your opinions so I'm going to call you names!!", even though it's stupid and childish.[/QUOTE] I'm not calling you names because you hold a different opinion than me. I'm calling you insane because you think it's perfectly okay, even admirable to say "Hey everyone, I know how best to handle these problems despite the fact that not even one source statistically agrees with me. Guess what? We just kill them all." That's insane. You're taking a brush, painting society with it, and saying "Those ones can die". How do you not see the striking similarity of your mental views and Breviks? They're identical but he acted on it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48798565]That doesn't change the fact that wishing any group of humans death is psychotic.[/QUOTE] Yes, lets try to rehabilitate ISIS and al-nusra militants, treat em with compassion amirite? Surely that'll stop em more than laser guided bombs, all we need is love!
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48798585]Ignoring the fact that you cannot ever, [i]ever[/i] guarantee that no one will ever slip through the cracks and be wrongfully executed, you still haven't explained why it's necessary to torture and kill people.[/QUOTE] To show that society will not accept mass murderers. Putting them in a hotel like prison cell with internet connection and a gaming console is a reward for their crimes. And I know that you can never guarantee that there will be no wrongful executions.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48798634]I mean, you're cursing and swearing a lot as well, and you are using an antagonistic tone. That tells me that your emotions are heightened.[/QUOTE] OH my GOD another facepuncher who THINKS HES A PSYCHOLOGIST OH MY GOD I have a hard time not being disgusted by his views too, but it's okay, I'm just leftist scum to him. Of course someone's gonna get antagonistic, when I spewed psychotic shit in Mass Debate, I got called out. Shouldn't he?
[I]As accordance to the law §27 section A, the convicted is to have his or her skin removed while in a conscious state performed by a professional surgeon. [/I] [I]As accordance to the law §27 section B, If no professional surgeon is available, the services of the local barber may be employed.[/I] -- Sounds totally legit. Wonder what other truly great and practical laws we can come up with, to make the society a better place. Extreme sarcasm end.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798631]In my opinion, it makes sense that the most gruesome crimes should be punished by death. And sure, you're free to continue with "I don't like your opinions so I'm going to call you names!!", even though it's stupid and childish.[/QUOTE] I respect your right to have an opinion but I find it completely abhorrent. Especially the whole "I endorse torturous execution" stance which is pretty psychotic from any angle.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48798634]I mean, you're cursing and swearing a lot as well, and you are using an antagonistic tone. That tells me that your emotions are heightened.[/QUOTE] I type like this. Who really gives a shit? I swear a lot in casual conversations in real life, and I emphasize words. I don't yell, but hey, again, you all think you know me really well and know how I feel about an issue really deeply But then again, you can see that I type like this about literally anything I talk about because this is how I fucking type and talk on casual forums. Do you want an essay where I take way more time than it's worth to write perfectly prim and proper? Too fucking bad. I type like this. Would you all get over it or is it more important to derail the thread with this crap
[QUOTE=ColdAsRice;48798642]Yes, lets try to rehabilitate ISIS and al-nusra militants, treat em with compassion amirite? Surely that'll stop em more than laser guided bombs, all we need is love![/QUOTE] Oh yes, lets go down that road because that's so related to what I said and what I meant. ISIS is a terrorist group that deserves to be stopped at all costs. But hey, lets go after the leftist who doesn't want to murder, and torture everyone who wrongs him. They're MILITANTS. Vastly different than criminals.
[QUOTE=ColdAsRice;48798642]Yes, lets try to rehabilitate ISIS and al-nusra militants, treat em with compassion amirite? Surely that'll stop em more than laser guided bombs, all we need is love![/QUOTE] Considering most kids join those groups because we bombed the fuck out of their countries and they see it as a way to make it right? Yeah, maybe we should try and treat those we caputre like humans and not filth we stepped in. Even better, we actually try and stop people feeling the need to join terrorist groups by working with them to fix the shit we blew up
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798456]Why do I have to get pleasure from it in order to advocate it? I advocate torture but I don't get pleasure from it. It's a necessary evil in extreme cases like with mass-murderers. And I'm aware that innocent people sometimes get executed but to prevent this from happening, there will be a very detailed and in depth criminal investigation. Any doubts about if someone is guilty or not would stop the execution.[/QUOTE] what's that thing that's like a necessary evil but not necessary? ... oh
[QUOTE=ColdAsRice;48798642]Yes, lets try to rehabilitate ISIS and al-nusra militants, treat em with compassion amirite? Surely that'll stop em more than laser guided bombs, all we need is love![/QUOTE] Torturing and executing enemy combatants is a great way to generate more enemy combatants
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48798640]I'm not calling you names because you hold a different opinion than me. I'm calling you insane because you think it's perfectly okay, even admirable to say "Hey everyone, I know how best to handle these problems despite the fact that not even one source statistically agrees with me. Guess what? We just kill them all." That's insane. You're taking a brush, painting society with it, and saying "Those ones can die". How do you not see the striking similarity of your mental views and Breviks? They're identical but he acted on it.[/QUOTE] I never said it's the best way to handle problems. And the major difference between Breivik and me is that I have a functioning moral compass. Murdering completely innocent people like Breivik did is so wrong. I know what to do and what to not do. And it stills boils down to you and other people calling me insane because I support death penalty. My opinion can be summarized with "let's execute the worst and most gruesome criminals".
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798690]I never said it's the best way to handle problems. And the major difference between Breivik and me is that I have a functioning moral compass. Murdering completely innocent people like Breivik did is so wrong. I know what to do and what to not do. And it stills boils down to you and other people calling me insane because I support death penalty. My opinion can be summarized with "let's execute the worst and most gruesome criminals".[/QUOTE] What about all the torture and physical anguish that you wanted to force them to go through before dying? Where'd all the needless suffering go? That's a psychotic desire, to force people to be tortured. You, and Brevik, BOTH, have the ability to look at a group of people and pick out which ones are deserving of death. that's pretty fucked.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48798654]I respect your right to have an opinion but I find it completely abhorrent. Especially the whole "I endorse torturous execution" stance which is pretty psychotic from any angle.[/QUOTE] It's psychotic in your point of view. Or have you asked every human on planet Earth if they find death penalty by torture as something psychotic?
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798690]I never said it's the best way to handle problems. And the major difference between Breivik and me is that I have a functioning moral compass. Murdering completely innocent people like Breivik did is so wrong. I know what to do and what to not do. [/quote] You see you say you have a functional moral compass... Then you advocate torture and then execution.... Not to mention that your justification for advocating these things is "They're subhuman scum". [quote] And it stills boils down to you and other people calling me insane because I support death penalty. My opinion can be summarized with "let's execute the worst and most gruesome criminals".[/QUOTE] We're not calling you out for you advocating the death penalty (which you shouldn't because its dumb but w/e), we're calling you because of the retarded shit you spout like "They're subhuman scum" "They deserve to be tortured to death"
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798700]It's psychotic in your point of view. Or have you asked every human on planet Earth if they find death penalty by torture as something psychotic?[/QUOTE] Can you even read a DSM-III?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;48798665]Considering most kids join those groups because we bombed the fuck out of their countries and they see it as a way to make it right? Yeah, maybe we should try and treat those we caputre like humans and not filth we stepped in. Even better, we actually try and stop people feeling the need to join terrorist groups by working with them to fix the shit we blew up[/QUOTE] The second generation immigrants in the UK, France and southeast countries don't have any fucking ties to their parent's countries. They have no justification you dipshit, they wanted in for power and wealth, and if they throw gays off the roofs and blow up mosques for not being the right sect guess fucking what? It's their own fucking fault, not the IMPERIALIST WESTERN AGGRESSORS
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48798565]Sure everything is relative, where did I say it wasn't? That doesn't change the fact that wishing any group of humans death is psychotic. You can change that scale to whatever you want, but relating death to a generalized group, is always going to be psychotic unless you just start making words mean whatever you feel they should mean. And no, he doesn't think that. You're missing the entire fucking point he's making about doubt and evidence and certainty in order to act like you're a "bigger person"[/QUOTE] Now in what way is it psychotic? I still dont see where do you get that from. Death by your hand sometimes is a strict necessity, you are pretty much challenging the entire world saying that. And I seem to miss what you wanted to say in 2nd paragraph. Not that I adressed that to you...
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48798697]What about all the torture and physical anguish that you wanted to force them to go through before dying? Where'd all the needless suffering go? That's a psychotic desire, to force people to be tortured. You, and Brevik, BOTH, have the ability to look at a group of people and pick out which ones are deserving of death. that's pretty fucked.[/QUOTE] Why all these insults? Do you know how to have a debate in a civilized manner? It's psychotic in your opinion. I would also like to see your psychiatrist license since you seem to know the definition of psychotic. And you're saying that every country with the death penalty is like Breivik. That's a pretty narrow-minded thing to say.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48798640]I'm not calling you names because you hold a different opinion than me. I'm calling you insane because you think it's perfectly okay, even admirable to say "Hey everyone, I know how best to handle these problems despite the fact that not even one source statistically agrees with me. Guess what? We just kill them all." That's insane. You're taking a brush, painting society with it, and saying "Those ones can die". How do you not see the striking similarity of your mental views and Breviks? They're identical but he acted on it.[/QUOTE] .....so you do call names.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798700]It's psychotic in your point of view. Or have you asked every human on planet Earth if they find death penalty by torture as something psychotic?[/QUOTE] Its generally held in the western world that torture is a barbaric practice, as evidenced by the fact the the western world doesn't (publicly) torture criminals anymore. Also what the fuck? Are you trying to say we should bring back shit like being drawn and quartered? The fuck is this the 1800s? [editline]30th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48798704]Can you even read a DSM-III?[/QUOTE] You're kinda late there... We're all the way up to the DSM-V
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48798680]Torturing and executing enemy combatants is a great way to generate more enemy combatants[/QUOTE] Where the fuck did i imply torture? He said that killing anybody for being in particular group is wrong, an absolute. These guys sure as hell aren't good news for anyone not a jihadist. No reason to not stop droning them
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48798703]You see you say you have a functional moral compass... Then you advocate torture and then execution.... Not to mention that your justification for advocating these things is "They're subhuman scum". We're not calling you out for you advocating the death penalty (which you shouldn't because its dumb but w/e), we're calling you because of the retarded shit you spout like "They're subhuman scum" "They deserve to be tortured to death"[/QUOTE] Do you even understand what a compass is and how the concept of "moralilty" can be applied to it?
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48798703]You see you say you have a functional moral compass... Then you advocate torture and then execution.... Not to mention that your justification for advocating these things is "They're subhuman scum". We're not calling you out for you advocating the death penalty (which you shouldn't because its dumb but w/e), we're calling you because of the retarded shit you spout like "They're subhuman scum" "They deserve to be tortured to death"[/QUOTE] It's retarded in your opinion. I think it's perfectly normal to use torture against the most extreme and gruesome criminals. And what is so wrong with not thinking of murderers as human? And yes, once again, I have a functional moral compass and I can interact with society just like any other person. It's just political opinions that say nothing about my personality.
[QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798690]I have a functioning moral compass.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798304]If that someone has committed cruel crimes against their fellow human beings, [B][I]they should not get a painless death.[/I][/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798690]I have a functioning moral compass.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798304]they should not get a painless death.[/QUOTE]
Lets dissect this gem of a post, shall we? [QUOTE=SwedishSpy;48798718]Why all these insults? Do you know how to have a debate in a civilized manner? It's psychotic in your opinion. I would also like to see your psychiatrist license since you seem to know the definition of psychotic. [/QUOTE] These are some rather mild mannered insults considering some of the objectively dumb shit you've spouted Furthermore he obviously knows quite a bit more about you because psychiatry is a completely separate field from psychology. Psychiatry deals with the medicinal aspect of mental health. [quote] And you're saying that every country with the death penalty is like Breivik. That's a pretty narrow-minded thing to say.[/quote] He wasn't comparing countries to Breivik you tool
[QUOTE=hexpunK;48798508]What is it with this forum and attracting fucking nutcases from Sweden? I've met maybe one or two top bros from Sweden here who are either racist as fuck, psychotic or just stupid.[/QUOTE] From what I've noticed it's generally the southern half of sweden that contains those kind swedes, while northern swedes and forest troll swedes are generally bro.
Aw poor man, you know, if you didn't murder 70 people you wouldn't be going through all this horribleness.
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