Paedophile placed babysitter advert on Gumtree website and abused two children after he was spared j
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[QUOTE=J!NX;38570675]He should be both punished and treated, one not affecting the other.
Everybody wins here.
Thankfully we don't have those "Blame the victims" assholes in FP.[/QUOTE]
Well if those children would stop being so damn cute, maybe this person wouldn't have to resort to filming them.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;38571349]Did you even read?[/QUOTE]
Do you even lift?
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;38571349]Did you even read?[/QUOTE]
did you even read his post OR the title?
"convicted paedophile who [B]advertised himself as a babysitter[/B] on the Gumtree website"
"He was placed on a two-year supervision order and[B] his name was placed on the Sex Offenders Register[/B], but it was not enough to stop him re-offending six years later."
he said they should have (and they could have) done a back ground check.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38571777]did you even read his post OR the title?
"convicted paedophile who [B]advertised himself as a babysitter[/B] on the Gumtree website"
"He was placed on a two-year supervision order and[B] his name was placed on the Sex Offenders Register[/B], but it was not enough to stop him re-offending six years later."
he said they should have (and they could have) done a back ground check.[/QUOTE]
I think you might be missing this part:
[quote]He placed an advert under his brother's name[/quote]
[QUOTE=Paramud;38572001]I think you might be missing this part:[/QUOTE]
I guess in the end as is turns out
we're a forum full of illiteracy
Well I bet he was about as happy as a Koala up a [I]Gumtree[/I] when he was released.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38571777]did you even read his post OR the title?
"convicted paedophile who [B]advertised himself as a babysitter[/B] on the Gumtree website"
"He was placed on a two-year supervision order and[B] his name was placed on the Sex Offenders Register[/B], but it was not enough to stop him re-offending six years later."
he said they should have (and they could have) done a back ground check.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure here you can't just do background checks on people. Even if one is required as part of a job the person who the CRB check is on has to request it.
On a side note, this is the second local(ish) news article I have seen on Facepunch, the other one was involving a woman who had sex with her daughters friends while they were drunk at a party.
I think I should move.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;38571349]Did you even read?[/QUOTE]
A lot better than you did, clearly...
I don't like how he has the same last name as me :(
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;38571038]those assholes are everywhere. even here.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what sites you've been visiting but "Blame the victims" isn't an argument I've heard used in this context anywhere, ever.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;38572535]I don't know what sites you've been visiting but "Blame the victims" isn't an argument I've heard used in this context anywhere, ever.[/QUOTE]
There are some people that defend rapists by saying "Oh it's because she was asking for it with those short shorts" over Facebook and in real life.
I don't remember any facepunchers using that excuse.
[QUOTE=Irkalla;38572046]Well I bet he was about as happy as a Koala up a [I]Gumtree[/I] when he was released.[/QUOTE]
Kookaburra.
Pretty sick stuff. Should've been jailed the first time around.
If I had kids I wouldn't feel good knowing some random guy from the street is babysitting my kids. Even if the background is clean. Letting someone babysit your children requires an insane amount of trust.
I'm having problems with classing pedos/child rapists as humans, therefore I can only think of ending them.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;38574925]I'm having problems with classing pedos/child rapists as humans, therefore I can only think of ending them.[/QUOTE]
Paedophiles are born with the condition, so with regards to them you are the same as those who believe homosexuals should be killed because they are not humans. In any case, what gives you the right to decide who is and isn't a human?
[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;38575167]Paedophiles are born with the condition, so with regards to them you are the same as those who believe homosexuals should be killed because they are not humans. In any case, what gives you the right to decide who is and isn't a human?[/QUOTE]
AFAIK a guite large amount of child molesters were molested themselves as a child, or had some other sort of serious trauma during childhood.
So I'm not gonna put them in the same boat as LGBT.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;38574925]I'm having problems with classing pedos/child rapists as humans, therefore I can only think of ending them.[/QUOTE]
I have a belief that everybody can be cured of their problems.
They're still a normal human being, hidden inside.
[QUOTE=Van-man;38575217]AFAIK a guite large amount of child molesters were molested themselves as a child, or had some other sort of serious trauma during childhood.
So I'm not gonna put them in the same boat as LGBT.[/QUOTE]
Please could you back that up with a source.
[QUOTE]They report that their findings suggest that there are one or more neurological characteristics present at birth that cause or increase the likelihood of being pedophilic. Evidence of familial transmittability "suggests, but does not prove that genetic factors are responsible" for the development of pedophilia.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia#Causes_and_biological_associations]Source[/url]
[editline]24th November 2012[/editline]
Additionally, how does the argument that they were molested as a child help the case that they are not human? It does take them out of the LGBT category, but it doesn't make them any less deserving of help.
[QUOTE=lemonskunk;38570738]Not to sound insensitive here, but aren't the parents partly at fault here for not following up with a background check. If you cared for the safety of your children why would you leave them in he care of someone you hardly know?[/QUOTE]
Gumtree is also at fault, if someone leaves a criminal record undeclared there should always be information of history.
Every time I see shit like this, I imagine if it was my own son, or daughter.
I'd literally want to rip the guys head off.
Why he wasn't imprisoned or had a psych evaluation is beyond me.
[QUOTE=Naaz;38570579]Retard.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, using derogative terms for someone born mentally disabled can really be compared with an evil man like this. Jackass
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;38570505]There's....really not much to say, here. Sick, sick man getting what he deserves, although I think any punishment on this plane of existence would be too lenient.[/QUOTE]
Life in Mexican labour prison. Or a Death March through Siberia, cause these motherfuckers make me sick. I've always thought rape was worse then murder, cause you kill the victim inside, let them live outside, and when you do it to children, you deserve worse then death.
[QUOTE=KnightSolaire;38577164]Yeah, using derogative terms for someone born mentally disabled can really be compared with an evil man like this. Jackass[/QUOTE]
[Quote=NeonPieDFTBA]They report that their findings suggest that there are one or more neurological characteristics present at birth that cause or increase the likelihood of being pedophilic. Evidence of familial transmittability "suggests, but does not prove that genetic factors are responsible" for the development of pedophilia.[/quote]
[QUOTE]findings suggest that there are one or more neurological characteristics present at birth that cause or increase the likelihood of being pedophilic[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]one or more neurological characteristics [B]present at birth[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;38570659]here comes the rush of the resident fp pedo apologists to say this guy shouldn't be punished but "treated"[/QUOTE]
the point of the justice system has never been punishment
in countries like Norway, their prisons are like mental wards, and criminality is something that is not considered mentally sound
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;38570659]here comes the rush of the resident fp pedo apologists to say this guy shouldn't be punished but "treated"[/QUOTE]
When someone does something wrong, we want to find out how best to prevent it from happening again. Jail doesn't exist just to cause suffering to someone who did something wrong, that would be revenge rather than punishment.
So if "treatment" works better at preventing it from happening again, then that's what we should do. Imagine if the punishment was crushing his balls painfully with a heavy thing and then letting him go. Would you think he's reformed? Of course not, he'd possibly have become hateful and apathetic and in general just even more fucked up than he was before.
So by all means punish if it seems to be the option that would work best [I](and also that it is humane)[/I]. Just realize that punishments actually are supposed to [I]be[/I] a type of treatment. We need to find the way to deal with criminals in the way that works best, not just the way that feels the most satisfying.
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