[QUOTE=Fatman55;36618593]Well those 'old men' are the ones who rejected ACTA.
I think the EU did pretty good here[/QUOTE]
We still have to worry about those 'old men' in the US, and you just know those stubborn asses are just going to keep riding their burning train into oblivion.
Also this:
[QUOTE=falkvinge.net]Today, on July 4, Europe celebrates a day of independence from American special interests.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TAU!;36618925]We still have to worry about those 'old men' in the US, and you just know those stubborn asses are just going to keep riding their burning train into oblivion.[/QUOTE]Are you purposefully setting it up for a Deus Ex joke?
the 39 who voted for it should be removed from everything to do with the internet ever
Why am I not surprised.
Seriously, anything like SOPA, ACTA, or PIPA never makes it anywhere.
I don't even worry when they get introduced anymore.
yes?
this is our government speaking
we're watching you with our black boxes
yes we decrypt ssl
With this and the ruling on re-selling digital copies, MPAA/RIAA must be mad as hell.
[QUOTE=Teddi Orange;36618594]This calls for a celebration.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M[/media][/QUOTE]
I got a better one.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEniXyEwmzo[/media]
Suck it, ACTA!
I actually sighed with relief when I read the news, now for us Brits to kill Theresa May's snooping bill.
Wait, this bill was still around? i thought it and SOPA got killed long ago.
Well ACTA got defeated thats good news for everyone soooooo the only good way to put it is
Fuck you ACTA and all of your supporters
[QUOTE=Silverspar;36619520]Wait, this bill was still around? i thought it and SOPA got killed long ago.[/QUOTE]
The process from legislation draft to implementation is really long depending om how it's handled, and it passes through multiple bureaucratic layers. Some politicians take advantage of this and deliberately try to delay the process to ensure the media has forgotten about the whole deal after the actual decision has been made.
Finally.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;36619647]The process from legislation draft to implementation is really long depending om how it's handled. Some politicians take advantage of this and deliberately try to delay the process to ensure the media has forgotten about the whole deal after the actual decision has been made.[/QUOTE]
They ALWAYS do that.
[QUOTE=acds;36618910]I like to think it was standing in the middle of the parliament when 478 MEPs got up with knives and stabbed it repeatedly to death and it died in a pool of it's own blood.[/QUOTE]
Et tu, EU?
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;36619175]I got a better one.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEniXyEwmzo[/media][/QUOTE]
I see your Star Wars and raise you a Spongebob.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANk8xlsp1pQ&feature=related[/media]
I love the EU <3
[img]http://i.imgur.com/neVmK.png[/img]
EU saves the day :dance:
Well thank the lord.
Sweet Mother of Luminous! Finally, intelligent law makers!
[b]That is a pathetic fucking disgrace for the entire European Union. ACTA should never be trashed like that.[/b]
All these protests, manifestations, political actions and worldwide campaigns have no sense, because all of the people who were behind them are simply idiotic, because there is a safe bet, that not even the single one from all of them even took a look at the content of this trade agreement. All the time they were speaking about the ultimate form of censorship, suppression of free speech and other tinfoil powered bullshit, while the main target of ACTA was to decrease the number of illegal and pirated content.
ACTA is just nothing else than a Trade Agreement, that has absolutely nothing to do with your privacy, I say, NOTHING if you are just a normal internet user that has a good collection of legal music CD's, unless you are a pirate yourself. It was used to share any good intel about the pirates and counterfeiters, that are doing money on this shit. If ACTA would be approved, there would be no change at all when it comes to respecting privacy and other things like that - If the local laws of the EU countries would adapt to the content of the Agreement, it would be all good, because the number of the pirates and the counterfeiters that do dirty money on illegal software would be quickly chased and locked down in the local prison.
And also, if ACTA would be approved, the post-ACTA law would make no difference at all, because right now the governments are actually enforcing the current law against the pirates, but ACTA would just make it more efficient, but people believed, that every word they write and read was watched by the government, but that is just idiotic. And I would love to mention, that there was not even a single word about suppressing free speech and opinions in the act. Only deleting the illegal content.
And now, about the censorship. Tell me guys, how would you define the word "censorship"? One of the good examples of censorship is: Suppression of free speech. We also need to pay attention to the major fact, that during the worldwide manifestations and protests, this word has been simply overused by the opposition. The main target of ACTA was to lock up people who are inflicted into counterfeiting, not to replace your Failbook messages with "THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED DUE TO ACTA" and other stuff like that, but of course, the ass-licking politicians like that shit-headed populist Janusz Palikot with his entire gay parade dressed up with paper versions of the Guy Fawkes masks on their asses and did their job to gain some attention.
[B]Misinterpretation. Populism. Tinfoil. The all three reasons why this Trade Agreement got disapproved.
And what have you learned from this post? Read carefully before you rate.[/B]
It would be funny because if all these nations weren't together, it would be much easier to bribe and get control and allow ACTA to work.
[QUOTE=Foxconn;36621578]-Big post of ranting against the opposition-[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you should've read up more on the opposition.
[quote]
According to French EP member Kader Arif, "The problem with ACTA is that, by focusing on the fight against violation of intellectual property rights in general, it treats a generic drug just as a counterfeited drug. This means the patent holder can stop the shipping of the drugs to a developing country, seize the cargo and even order the destruction of the drugs as a preventive measure." He continued, "Generic medicines are not counterfeited medicines; they are not the fake version of a drug; they are a generic version of a drug, produced either because the patent on the original drug has expired, or because a country has to put in place public health policies," he said.[/quote]
And
[quote]An open letter signed by many organizations, including Consumers International, EDRi (32 European civil rights and privacy NGOs), the Free Software Foundation (FSF), the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), ASIC (French trade association for web 2.0 companies), and the Free Knowledge Institute, states that "the current draft of ACTA would profoundly restrict the fundamental rights and freedoms of European citizens, most notably the freedom of expression and communication privacy." The Free Software Foundation argues that ACTA will create a culture of surveillance and suspicion. Aaron Shaw, Research Fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University, argues that "ACTA would create unduly harsh legal standards that do not reflect contemporary principles of democratic government, free market exchange, or civil liberties. Even though the precise terms of ACTA remain undecided, the negotiants' preliminary documents reveal many troubling aspects of the proposed agreement" such as removing "legal safeguards that protect Internet Service Providers from liability for the actions of their subscribers" in effect giving ISPs no option but to comply with privacy invasions. Shaw further says that "[ACTA] would also facilitate privacy violations by trademark and copyright holders against private citizens suspected of infringement activities without any sort of legal due process".
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) has published "Speak out against ACTA", stating that the ACTA threatens free software by creating a culture "in which the freedom that is required to produce free software is seen as dangerous and threatening rather than creative, innovative, and exciting." ACTA would also require that existing ISPs no longer host free software that can access copyrighted media; this would substantially affect many sites that offer free software or host software projects such as SourceForge. Specifically, the FSF argues that ACTA will make it more difficult and expensive to distribute free software via file sharing and P2P technologies like BitTorrent, which are currently used to distribute large amounts of free software. The FSF also argues that ACTA will make it harder for users of free operating systems to play non-free media because DRM protected media would not be legally playable with free software.[/quote]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement#Criticism[/URL]
[QUOTE=Foxconn;36621578][b]That is a pathetic fucking disgrace for the entire European Union. ACTA should never be trashed like that.[/b][/QUOTE]
One of the big problems with ACTA was how ambiguously defined some sections were. While you COULD use it to prosecute counterfeiters, the ambiguity means it COULD potentially be used to enforce a whole lot of other things beyond the initial scope of the agreement. That means it's a shitty law that needs either revising or refusal.
[QUOTE=Foxconn;36621578][b]That is a pathetic fucking disgrace for the entire European Union. ACTA should never be trashed like that.[/b]
All these protests, manifestations, political actions and worldwide campaigns have no sense, because all of the people who were behind them are simply idiotic, because there is a safe bet, that not even the single one from all of them even took a look at the content of this trade agreement. All the time they were speaking about the ultimate form of censorship, suppression of free speech and other tinfoil powered bullshit, while the main target of ACTA was to decrease the number of illegal and pirated content.
ACTA is just nothing else than a Trade Agreement, that has absolutely nothing to do with your privacy, I say, NOTHING if you are just a normal internet user that has a good collection of legal music CD's, unless you are a pirate yourself. It was used to share any good intel about the pirates and counterfeiters, that are doing money on this shit. If ACTA would be approved, there would be no change at all when it comes to respecting privacy and other things like that - If the local laws of the EU countries would adapt to the content of the Agreement, it would be all good, because the number of the pirates and the counterfeiters that do dirty money on illegal software would be quickly chased and locked down in the local prison.
And also, if ACTA would be approved, the post-ACTA law would make no difference at all, because right now the governments are actually enforcing the current law against the pirates, but ACTA would just make it more efficient, but people believed, that every word they write and read was watched by the government, but that is just idiotic. And I would love to mention, that there was not even a single word about suppressing free speech and opinions in the act. Only deleting the illegal content.
And now, about the censorship. Tell me guys, how would you define the word "censorship"? One of the good examples of censorship is: Suppression of free speech. We also need to pay attention to the major fact, that during the worldwide manifestations and protests, this word has been simply overused by the opposition. The main target of ACTA was to lock up people who are inflicted into counterfeiting, not to replace your Failbook messages with "THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED DUE TO ACTA" and other stuff like that, but of course, the ass-licking politicians like that shit-headed populist Janusz Palikot with his entire gay parade dressed up with paper versions of the Guy Fawkes masks on their asses and did their job to gain some attention.
[B]Misinterpretation. Populism. Tinfoil. The all three reasons why this Trade Agreement got disapproved.
And what have you learned from this post? Read carefully before you rate.[/B][/QUOTE]
ACTA would also make generic medicine illegal and there are alot of human rights issues. There would be changes that everyone would feel. This isnt just the RIAA and MPAA mad, its also the pharmaceutical companies who want all the money.
Due to the fact that it is a god damn treaty, we will never see what is in it unless it gets leaked again. As far as we know, it could also mandate that everyone say that pfizer is a god and we must give that company all of our money.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;36618940]Today, on July 4, Europe celebrates a day of independence from American special interests.:[/QUOTE]
Today Europeans continue to blame all their political problems on US , on independence day of all days!
have fun pirating them American tv shows guys you deserve it <3
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;36622454]Today Europeans continue to blame all their political problems on US , on independence day of all days!
have fun pirating them American tv shows guys you deserve it <3[/QUOTE]
What political problems are you talking about? ACTA getting rejected? Democracy at work. America is the one having the political problems with lobbying corporations pushing invasive laws in spite of public opinion, while in Europe the will of the greater public is evidently of higher priority.
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