Christian group castigates Obama for urging tolerance toward gays
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The price for freedom of speech isn't soldiers or money.
It's having to sit here and watch all the dumb fucking idiots express their selves.
God sounds like the best troll ever.
"Hey son, watch this"
"Dad what are you doing?"
"Oh that? Oh that's just a special tree, I gave that chick some acid and put a snake beside her and told her don't eat the apples now watch this shit"
"For fuck sake dad no again..."
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824349]God can't have a "plan" for us and give us free will, it's either-or
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Assuming God is bound by a linear time like we are - which, being God, he wouldn't be. When you say God is all-powerful by definition, it doesn't just mean he can fly around and throw lightening bolts at people. By nature, God can solve any problem, regardless of whether we can comprehend the answer.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833032]Assuming God is bound by a linear time like we are - which, being God, he wouldn't be.[/QUOTE]
Again, based on the assumption cloud boy is real.
[QUOTE=bravehat;28833049]Again, based on the assumption cloud boy is real.[/QUOTE]
No, based on the concept of God. Theory can be correct without reality.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833032]Assuming God is bound by a linear time like we are - which, being God, he wouldn't be. When you say God is all-powerful by definition, it doesn't just mean he can fly around and throw lightening bolts at people. By nature, God can solve any problem, regardless of whether we can comprehend the answer.[/QUOTE]
I dont see what this has to do with his post involving free will. your just saying it makes sense but I cant tell you why.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833061]No, based on the concept of God. Theory can be correct without reality.[/QUOTE]
FUCKING WHAT!?!?!
WHAT FUCKING THEORY, THERE IS NOT EVEN A FUCKING IOTA OF EVIDENCE THAT COULD LEND CREDENCE TO SOME CLOUD DICK!
Do not, ever use the word theory when talking about God, I am fucking sick to the back teeth of that fucking term being bandied about by folk who think it fits the situation.
Ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret!
little raging but I agree a theory is not a guess it is backed by hard proof.
Damn right I'm raging, I'm sick of it, folk using the term theory when they mean hypothesis, it completely discredits the terms and then when you say stuff like Theory of Relativity and the like folk are all just like BUT HOW CAN YOU KNOW IF IT'S JUST A GUESS LOL!
:unsmigghh: All of my shrivelled black hearts hate.
[QUOTE=bravehat;28833091]FUCKING WHAT!?!?!
WHAT FUCKING THEORY, THERE IS NOT EVEN A FUCKING IOTA OF EVIDENCE THAT COULD LEND CREDENCE TO SOME CLOUD DICK!
Do not, ever use the word theory when talking about God, I am fucking sick to the back teeth of that fucking term being bandied about by folk who think it fits the situation.
Ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret![/QUOTE]
Get angry, mate.
You can't even acknowledge the possibility of an all-powerful being?
E: I hate getting conversations like this:
"God can do X"
"No he can't that's impossible"
"Dude by definition God can do anything"
"No he can't because that's impossible"
Real HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG moments.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833119]Get angry, mate.
You can't even acknowledge the possibility of an all-powerful being?[/QUOTE]
No I do accept there could be but I'm an apatheist, if theres a God I have never seen him give a shit about anyone, anywhere, ever, and until I do, I won't give a shit about him wether he's real or not.
Besides it is so statistically ludicrous there's no point taking it seriously, then we have to take into account that everything in our universe is bound to the laws of physics and that means he can't be all powerful because there is a finite amount of energy in our universe according to our current knowledge, so unless he's like Galacticus and is just VERY powerful and not all powerful then he ain't real, and if he isn't all powerful then he isn't god.
He never said it was impossible but its definitely not a theory. Its barely a hypothesis.
Don't worry, both of you. God still loves you, and he'll always love you.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833153]Don't worry, both of you. God still loves you, and he'll always love you.[/QUOTE]
He can love me when I stick my dick is his eye.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833153]Don't worry, both of you. God still loves you, and he'll always love you.[/QUOTE]
Also to you I'll say again, God by definition can't be real, the laws of physics in teh universe forbid it, completely.
Ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833119]Get angry, mate.
You can't even acknowledge the possibility of an all-powerful being?
E: I hate getting conversations like this:
"God can do X"
"No he can't that's impossible"
"Dude by definition God can do anything"
"No he can't because that's impossible"
Real HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG moments.[/QUOTE]
Except that the existence of a god isn't a theory. There's no scientific backing behind it, so really at best what it could be a hypothesis, and even that is [I]really[/I] pushing it.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833153]Don't worry, both of you. God still loves you, and he'll always love you.[/QUOTE]
I would say why would he send me to hell if he loves me but your just posting to get people angry now.
more of the same thing, when will this all end?
Honestly this argument is pointless, I did it before with Funk and it was the same, "Lol but God by definition is awesome perfect and infallible and all powerful you're not getting this are you Lol derp derp derp"
"Yeah but you're not getting this, it IS impossible"
"Lol derp but it's not cause he's God"
"But derp he can't exist because if he did his own laws of derp in the derpiverse forbid his existence therefore he can't exist derp"
"Derp derp derp!"
"Derpdy derp derp!"
And rinse and repeat.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;28833170]Except that the existence of a god isn't a theory. There's no scientific backing behind it, so really at best what it could be a hypothesis, and even that is [I]really[/I] pushing it.[/QUOTE]
Aha - SCIENTIFIC theory, then? People say there's no proof of God - but it's so plainly obvious, it's impossible to deny his presence!
E: Also - why would God be bound by the laws of this physical reality?
[QUOTE=Daedulas;28833179]more of the same thing, when will this all end?[/QUOTE]
When the sun sings Still alive and the moon swallows it's own anus.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833207]Aha - SCIENTIFIC theory, then? People say there's no proof of God - but it's so plainly obvious, it's impossible to deny his presence![/QUOTE]
No it is possible.
Watch this
God isn't real
Look, I just denied his possible presence, but hey it doesn't matter I was going to hell anyway, since you know all those ass backwards laws in the bible have me sorted of bent over anyway so yeah what is there to lose.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833207]Aha - SCIENTIFIC theory, then? People say there's no proof of God - but it's so plainly obvious, it's impossible to deny his presence!
E: Also - why would God be bound by the laws of this physical reality?[/QUOTE]
Im sorry but I cant tell if your being for real or not at this point.
You say its impossible to deny his presence but i did and since I did the impossible I am now god. ALL MOST WORSHIP ME!
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28833207]Aha - SCIENTIFIC theory, then? People say there's no proof of God - but it's so plainly obvious, it's impossible to deny his presence!
E: Also - why would God be bound by the laws of this physical reality?[/QUOTE]
Because you can't create energy, everything is composed of energy and if it exists in this universe it requires energy, we know there is a finite amount of energy in the universe because there is a finite amount of atoms.
Meaning if god exists he is composed of energy of some form, so he is bound to the laws of physics in this universe, when he is in this universe, and to have an effect on this universe he needs to be in this universe therefore he needs energy.
Are you beginning to understand how retarded you are being by randomly positing that god can do anything because god is god?
Humans do not have the capacity to understand what "God" really is, so giving it characteristics and defining it is pretentious and ignorant. You couldn't possibly know what it is if it even exists.
[QUOTE=Variant;28833531]Humans do not have the capacity to understand what "God" really is, so giving it characteristics and defining it is pretentious and ignorant. You couldn't possibly know what it is if it even exists.[/QUOTE]
No, we understand perfectly, he was the first attempt at science, to understand our world, we couldn't test and experiment so we left gaps for him to fill in things as we discovered them.
He is a redundant but commendable feature in human psychology, but it's time we excised him.
[QUOTE=bravehat;28833565]No, we understand perfectly, he was the first attempt at science, to understand our world, we couldn't test and experiment so we left gaps for him to fill in things as we discovered them.
He is a redundant but commendable feature in human psychology, but it's time we excised him.[/QUOTE]
I'm not referring to the gods of religion.
OFFT: I can't help but laugh at the RG2228 headstock (specifically) coming out of the bulb's mouth.
If it's a god we're talking about, he/she/it/them is the product of a religion.
And yeah was the only decent djentlemen avatar i could find :v:
The only gods we know of are from religion and mythology, but there could be else something out there. Something that someone will never put a belief structure on.
Then it never wanted to be noticed, so why notice it.
And dude, the chances of anything god like existing are literally slim to nil, so infintesimal that to actually take the possibility seriously is blinding stupidity.
I wasn't debating its importance. Just that people think they know what exactly God is, when it isn't possible.
Take it how you want, I just think that believing in a god is blindingly stupid, if you believe in god, why not believe that the universe is sentient, why not believe in Santa, why not believe you've been probed by an alien pornstar?
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