Gabe Newell: Single-player games are like a feature film where your lead actor is retarded and autis
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It's like people just look for things that could even be remotely offensive these days, and make a shit storm out of it.
[QUOTE=DrPyspy;39479331]I take every joke or insult towards autistic people very personally, as my brother is autistic.
Hopefully he doesn't say anything like this in the future.[/QUOTE]I think it would be worth watching the video for you. He wasn't joking or insulting anyone/anything.
[QUOTE=SL128;39479451]I think it would be worth watching the video for you. He wasn't joking or insulting anyone/anything.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see now.
Serves me right for reading instead of listening.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39479417]I'd waste time arguing but as I can tell from your posts here and in your title link, you're a complete spaz and there's no point. You'll just keep calling people awful human beings.
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[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39479417]you're a complete spaz[/QUOTE]
I don't think you're helping your case there. That's different than what Gabe said. He used the words as accurate descriptions of player behavior, you're saying he's spastic because he's made some low quality posts on a forum.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39479448]It's like people just look for things that could even be remotely offensive these days, and make a shit storm out of it.[/QUOTE]
uh
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39474863]THIS is what he's getting at in my opinion. All I'm saying is there are better ways to get the point made. It's a pretty casual environment he's talking in so I can easily forgive it (I say some pretty awful stuff on accident as well) but it was a misstep and he should probably make a small apology on twitter or something.[/QUOTE]
this is my view, dont really think it's a poopstorm but sorry if I totally made u mangry with my opinions
[QUOTE=Fort83;39479465]Using the word retard isn't one of those "perfectly harmless things"[/QUOTE]
Depends on how and who it's directed to.
[quote=me]Ever heard of context ?
If a friend does something dumb and i call him "a fucking retard", i'm not an awful person. If i call a random autistic person a fucking retard then yeah, it's awful and extremely offensive.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39479482]uh
this is my view, dont really think it's a poopstorm but sorry if I totally made u mangry with my opinions[/QUOTE]
that post isn't even directed towards anybody. I haven't even read that post
[editline]5th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;39479469]I don't think you're helping your case there. That's different than what Gabe said. He used the words as accurate descriptions of player behavior, you're saying he's spastic because he's made some low quality posts on a forum.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why people think he's talking about the player. He's talking about the character the player controls. The fact that it is braindead, and is incapable of anything unless the player helps. I don't see why nobody could pick up on that.
By spaz, I'm referring to his inability to detect subtleties and the way he reacts to them. Not his quality of forum posting.
I personally like playing the autistic/retarded hero.
I will ruin Magnusson's microwavable meal EVERY time.
Being stupid in singleplayer is what makes games great, if you can't then it's no fun.
oh no someone used less than completely acceptable words
what a fucking tragedy
Wow, this thread has turned into 5 pages of arguing because somebody used a bad word, holy shit
Facepunch.
[QUOTE=Fort83;39479465]Using the word retard isn't one of those "perfectly harmless things"[/QUOTE]
Yes it is, the word retard is perfectly fine, in fact my brother is retarded.
retard retard retard retard.
Using the word retard is like using a voodoo doll.
Nothing actually happens.
People need to stop being offended when you compare things to retardation and Gabe needs to not compare things to retardation in a day & age where people are offended by silly words.
It sounds really horrible when you take it out of context of the video.
Uhh this is old
why are people using this as some relevant, sensationalist title
[editline]5th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;39474157]You would expect better out of someone like him.[/QUOTE]
ALMOST Like as if you knew what he was talking about, besides from that one line picked out of context.
Let's face it, Gordon Freeman had to be autistic to be that good with the crowbar. The Half-Life series will end before Freeman is able to die thanks to his mad crowbar skills.
I often thought that was the case with older games. The main character is a blank slate who you are supposed to project yourself into, but if you were to just look at the character for who he/she is then there's really not much there. That was the cool part about Half-Life, people viewed Gordon according to how they played. I often saw him as a guy who just didn't care anymore, my friend viewed him as a scared scientist who was almost constantly on adrenaline. It's all open to the player, and that's what I loved about it.
Drive must be a video games then.
[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;39480834]I often thought that was the case with older games. The main character is a blank slate who you are supposed to project yourself into, but if you were to just look at the character for who he/she is then there's really not much there. That was the cool part about Half-Life, people viewed Gordon according to how they played. I often saw him as a guy who just didn't care anymore, my friend viewed him as a scared scientist who was almost constantly on adrenaline. It's all open to the player, and that's what I loved about it.[/QUOTE]
i just view him as a badass extremely intelligent weapons expert MIT graduate
[quote]"I like to tease Yanis [Varoufakis, Valve's resident economist] about the fact that Steam is five times the size of Greece," Newell said, "and that we have less debt."[/quote]
Oh god
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39474162]I don't think he's implying that the player is retarded and autistic, but that the character your playing as is, with the way he interacts with the environments.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. When the main character is a blank slate with little in the way of presupposed ideas or prejudices towards their environment the player is left to uniquely interpret events in relation to the character for themselves.
He didn't mean to insult anyone and his comparison makes perfect sense, so I don't see a problem.
[QUOTE=MajorMattem;39474113]Holy shit Gabe
That's abit far[/QUOTE]
No?
In every games, due to technical limitations, your characters is forced to do very specific things, such as use the ladder rather than climb that slightly out of jump height or do anything that would be just second nature in many, many situations.
Now I don't really see why he targets single player specifically, though this is only my interpretation of his little phrase there.
Bad wording.
Retarded and autistic people are kind of like single player games.
The Black Mesa Research Facility is an equal opportunity employer.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39480885]i just view him as a badass extremely intelligent weapons expert MIT graduate[/QUOTE]
I viewed him as some Slovakian janitor who barely speaks English and was accidentally mistaken for Gordon Freeman, expert physicist, who just happened to board the wrong plane and never got to Black Mesa.
I like how everyone saying he went too far. I bet you guys I can find someone making fun of autistic people on this forum. :v
I don't play multiplayer games because [sp]I have no friends.[/sp]
How DARE he say the words autistic and retarded
TOO FAR GABE
TOO FAR
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