• Police Groups Furiously Protest Eric Holder's Marijuana Policy Announcement
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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42048079]Weed is para-legal/illegal in Canada and the remaining laws are rarely enforced. Most police don't care and it's a system that works perfectly fine for everybody. Please point me to the statistics that society will collapse when ridiculous drug laws are not enforced. Believe it or not, most people are capable of using their own discretion. But I guess if people believed that was the case, then drugs would be legal already and we wouldn't be in this gigantic fucking drugwar mess.[/QUOTE] I just said I believed weed should be legal, why would I sight such a statistic? Canada isn't engaged in a massive drug war while also being passive on those very laws.
Ugh I hope they don't budge on their move. Marijuana should be legal, everyone who knows anything believes so. I personally believe most drugs should just be decriminalized or instead of punishing people just help them find REAL treatment. A prison and huge fine for a couple years will not help a person and will ultimately just fuck them over more when they get out.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;42048033]It's wrong to tell people to risk their lives and the lives of others to enforce those laws and then not support those laws when challenged on them. [editline]1st September 2013[/editline] Take a stand against those laws, don't be passive about enforcing them.[/QUOTE] And why exactly can't he enforce a law he's opposed to? Wouldn't you think selective enforcement is a bad thing?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42047137]A trillion dollars. Let's let that sink in folks. A trillion dollars is what has been spent on the drug war since it first started. Miniaturized economy? it's full scale.[/QUOTE] i got it, lets end the war on low level drugs (after re-evaluating what a low level drug is, cas some are labeled super-dangerous when they arent) then take that extra 1-trillion, earmark 90% of it for nasa, the rest goes to medicare just in case, and we build a massive moonbase, and the plus side is, with canabis legalised nasa can use it's high rate of photosynthsys to help scrub the air instead of relying solely on picky CO2 scrubbers which can catch fire
[QUOTE=JerryK;42047548]hahaha, what a solid argument these people are making[/QUOTE] Did you know alcohol is the most common drug found in the bloodstream of drunk drivers?
i think the police are just pissed that Holder is basically allowing the laws to be broken without any regard to the actual laws, refusing to enforce a law passed by congress is probably illegal, and definatly impeachable but then again the dems are probably betting that this lax stance will nab them more votes in 2016, because whats public office for but for running for the next term [editline]1st September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DanRatherman;42048762]Did you know alcohol is the most common drug found in the bloodstream of drunk drivers?[/QUOTE] or that cannabis users are more likely to be arrested in possession of cannabis?
I cant wait to see how much more law enforcement butthurt were going to hear as the legalization movement gains more and more ground.
[QUOTE=andy85258;42048832]I cant wait to see how much more law enforcement butthurt were going to hear as the legalization movement gains more and more ground.[/QUOTE] doesn't matter, holder has 2 years left, doubt the next administration will carry out his (obama's) policies regardless. even if 50/50 states decriminalize it, the DEA can still say "fuck you, i got federal laws" and litterrally walk down the street busting windows and burning dispenseries down with federal prosecutors. to change it you still have to get a vote on the issue on federal level
[QUOTE=Sableye;42048761]i got it, lets end the war on low level drugs (after re-evaluating what a low level drug is, cas some are labeled super-dangerous when they arent) then take that extra 1-trillion, earmark 90% of it for nasa, the rest goes to medicare just in case, and we build a massive moonbase, and the plus side is, with canabis legalised nasa can use it's high rate of photosynthsys to help scrub the air instead of relying solely on picky CO2 scrubbers which can catch fire[/QUOTE] or we could just end the war on drugs and stop letting the state dictate what we can and cannot do with our own bodies in our own home.
Hey, your cops, its not your job to make the laws, its your job to break them.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42047671]police just keep proving again and again they don't know anything about actually treating the problem of drug-related crime or anything like that. they know how to arrest people, kill people and lock people up. that's about it.[/QUOTE] American Law Enforcement personnel (like the Military, and half the country) are generally conservative or right leaning. Of course they're going to be against legalisation of marijuana.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42049244]American Law Enforcement personnel (like the Military, and half the country) are generally conservative or right leaning. Of course they're going to be against legalisation of marijuana.[/QUOTE] that's why they should just shut up and let people that don't have a hard on for locking up minorities and people with long hair and whatever other group police have targeted make the decisions
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42047198]How about we keep focusing on hard drugs and the Cartel instead of potheads?[/QUOTE] You want weed needles on the streets? You sick bastard!
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42048705]And why exactly can't he enforce a law he's opposed to? Wouldn't you think selective enforcement is a bad thing?[/QUOTE] The thing is he is enforcing the laws he is opposed too.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;42051751]The thing is he is enforcing the laws he is opposed too.[/QUOTE] But he's not a lawmaker, he's a law enforcer. The Legislative Branch creates the laws, the Judicial Branch enforces them. He doesn't have a whole lot of say what the law is, especially with a law that existed decades before he took office. He doesn't need to agree with the law to enforce it, and selectively ignoring the law is corrupt.
Just make weed legal (Tax it, make sure THC levels meet a safe standard requirement) and go after the hard drugs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't marijuana the most common narcotic out there? If it's legal you also take out a huge chunk of the illegal drug industry.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42051978]But he's not a lawmaker, he's a law enforcer. The Legislative Branch creates the laws, the Judicial Branch enforces them. He doesn't have a whole lot of say what the law is, especially with a law that existed decades before he took office. He doesn't need to agree with the law to enforce it, and selectively ignoring the law is corrupt.[/QUOTE] He has authority over organizations which are actively enforcing anti drug laws, but now he is choosing not to do so in regards to specific circumstances. He is selectively ignoring the law.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;42052001]He has authority over organizations which are actively enforcing anti drug laws, but now he is choosing not to do so in regards to specific circumstances. He is selectively ignoring the law.[/QUOTE] He's respective those state's laws by not imposing the federal government's outdated laws. It's still illegal in the rest of the states, so it's still enforced there.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42052034]He's respective those state's laws by not imposing the federal [B]government's outdated laws[/B]. It's still illegal in the rest of the states, so it's still enforced there.[/QUOTE] That's kinda the problem, no matter how you change the state's law, federal law goes first. Which is a bit strange to me since that would make state law sort of...redundant.
think of all the American Job Creators this will bankrupt!!
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42052034]He's respective those state's laws by not imposing the federal government's outdated laws. It's still illegal in the rest of the states, so it's still enforced there.[/QUOTE] As cool as it is that he's taking the initiative to do something like that, that's not how it works. You don't just say poo to the federal law and pretend state law is your excuse, federal law is precedent and that's why we have it, to have an overlying set of laws that are constant among any state.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42052034]He's respective those state's laws by not imposing the federal government's outdated laws. It's still illegal in the rest of the states, so it's still enforced there.[/QUOTE] It's still illegal there too though. It makes it a very fucked up situation. There are bound to still be federal anti drug operations still going on within the state. It just doesn't make any sence
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