• Man on LSD saves dog from Imaginary Fire
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LSDXM is a very weird experience
[QUOTE=gk99;51210060]It's just a monetary incentive to try and keep you from fleeing, I guess. If you're found guilty or not guilty, you get the money back, but if you say, cross the border into Mexico, that money stays with the government.[/QUOTE] Ends up being a scam to steal money from the poor, though. See with his 15k bond, and the fact that he was driving a BMW, i would imagine that his parents or someone would take care of that for him. It's their money and they get it back with no fees. And then the court costs will amount to a few hundred, maybe up to a couple thousand dollars depending on how long he lets it drag out before accepting a plea. And then he would have to pay for a lawyer but he can surely afford that with all the above considered. So to him, or at least to BMW money, it's pocket change. This will be a blip on the radar for him, nothing more than a slight speed bump. Now with me on the other hand, I had to get a bondsman to loan me the money with interest, which means it cost me $2000 out of pocket just to get out of jail, that's my total monthly income btw, I don't get that money back, then add in the almost a thousand dollars in court costs and fees for the public defender which was based on my income so I'm required to pay that too (public defenders aren't free), and add in the probation fees, and it cost me probably double out of pocket just to live my life after jail. Double what it would cost someone who could afford to put up the bail themselves and someone who already has a lawyer on retainer. It's set up to skim off the poor. My punishment impacted my life far more than his will, I am sure.
[QUOTE=J Paul;51211808]Ends up being a scam to steal money from the poor, though. See with his 15k bond, and the fact that he was driving a BMW, i would imagine that his parents or someone would take care of that for him. It's their money and they get it back with no fees. And then the court costs will amount to a few hundred, maybe up to a couple thousand dollars depending on how long he lets it drag out before accepting a plea. And then he would have to pay for a lawyer but he can surely afford that with all the above considered. So to him, or at least to BMW money, it's pocket change. This will be a blip on the radar for him, nothing more than a slight speed bump. Now with me on the other hand, I had to get a bondsman to loan me the money with interest, which means it cost me $2000 out of pocket just to get out of jail, that's my total monthly income btw, I don't get that money back, then add in the almost a thousand dollars in court costs and fees for the public defender which was based on my income so I'm required to pay that too (public defenders aren't free), and add in the probation fees, and it cost me probably double out of pocket just to live my life after jail. Double what it would cost someone who could afford to put up the bail themselves and someone who already has a lawyer on retainer. It's set up to skim off the poor. My punishment impacted my life far more than his will, I am sure.[/QUOTE] Bear in mind "BMW" doesn't mean a new M3 or 335i. For all we know that could be a '91 325i with 250k miles on it worth around 2 grand.
[QUOTE=J Paul;51211808]Ends up being a scam to steal money from the poor, though. See with his 15k bond, and the fact that he was driving a BMW, i would imagine that his parents or someone would take care of that for him. It's their money and they get it back with no fees. And then the court costs will amount to a few hundred, maybe up to a couple thousand dollars depending on how long he lets it drag out before accepting a plea. And then he would have to pay for a lawyer but he can surely afford that with all the above considered. So to him, or at least to BMW money, it's pocket change. This will be a blip on the radar for him, nothing more than a slight speed bump. Now with me on the other hand, I had to get a bondsman to loan me the money with interest, which means it cost me $2000 out of pocket just to get out of jail, that's my total monthly income btw, I don't get that money back, then add in the almost a thousand dollars in court costs and fees for the public defender which was based on my income so I'm required to pay that too (public defenders aren't free), and add in the probation fees, and it cost me probably double out of pocket just to live my life after jail. Double what it would cost someone who could afford to put up the bail themselves and someone who already has a lawyer on retainer. It's set up to skim off the poor. My punishment impacted my life far more than his will, I am sure.[/QUOTE] He's 43, I don't think his parents had anything to do with it.
[QUOTE=J Paul;51211808]Ends up being a scam to steal money from the poor, though.[/QUOTE] But you get it back unless you're a dumbass and try to run, right? Plus, paying it isn't a thing you have to do if you're okay with jail cells until the trial's over.
[QUOTE=gk99;51214665]But you get it back unless you're a dumbass and try to run, right? Plus, paying it isn't a thing you have to do if you're okay with jail cells until the trial's over.[/QUOTE] my point was that while you may get it back, it's only free if it's your money. Which, bail is normally so high that normal people just wouldn't have that cash sitting around. so lower income people have to get a loan which costs you a huge percentage out of pocket. That was my point overall. putting up 15k that you're sure to get back is nothing and is chump change to wealthy people so it isn't a huge consequence. on the other hand, though, a 15k loan on which you have to pay 10%, when you don't have even the 10% much less the 15k, do you see how this same punishment disproportionately affects people of different incomes?
[QUOTE=gk99;51214665]But you get it back unless you're a dumbass and try to run, right? Plus, paying it isn't a thing you have to do if you're okay with jail cells until the trial's over.[/QUOTE] Realistically you can't just sit in the jail cell until the trial's over. Most people have jobs, which can't or won't wait for you to get done with the trial - that can take multiple months to reach in the first place. If you work for a low wage and get busted for something that puts you in a bail situation, you're most likely fucked one way or another.
What id really like to know is how this guy got his hands on real LSD, i thought that stuff was rare now.
I can't help but laugh at "Second degree burglary and third degree criminal michief." I dunno, I just get this image of Will Farrell kicking down the backdoor with his eyes glazed and unfocused, and a stunned family eating dinner watches on, as he scoops up a compliant, confused old white lab and hustles out the front door babbling about Oprah Winfrey.
Heh, I've mixed DXM (Cough-Syrup) and LSD before. fuck
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