British schoolteacher, 30, found guilty of child abduction for running away to France with pupil, 15
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The guy clearly took advantage of a vulnerable girl.
It's a shame there isn't a better system of measuring a person's competence (level of understanding, maturity, whatever you want to call it) than age, because let's be honest, age is a poor judge at best. Perhaps one day.
This guy did three things wrong, and deserves punishment for them.
1. Used his position of authority at a school to score some underage sex.
2. Had sex with someone not of legal age.
3. Took someone not of legal age to another country for purposes of having sex(ie kidnapping).
If you are under age, sorry but you can't 'choose' to travel internationally. That's just how it is, your parents or other guardian make that call.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;41133333]This guy did three things wrong, and deserves punishment for them.
1. Used his position of authority at a school to score some underage sex.
2. Had sex with someone not of legal age.
3. Took someone not of legal age to another country for purposes of having sex(ie kidnapping).
If you are under age, sorry but you can't 'choose' to travel internationally. That's just how it is, your parents or other guardian make that call.[/QUOTE]
I'm not disputing that, I'm disputing the law in the first place. If she was fully consenting and admits that, how can it be kidnap?
this is hardly an abduction case
Eck...the fact she was underage is one thing, but he shouldn't have tried to foster one with a student, especially an underage one. It was his responsibility as a teacher and person of authority to no better.
Hell, they might not have even had this because her crush most likely would have faded had he not gone with it.
[QUOTE=Bengley;41111163]Wrong in the law's eyes, yes, but morally? Only a few months later and this would have been perfectly fine and the only thing different would have been a number.[/QUOTE]
I think you have this reversed, it is wrong morally, society has deemed it so, but should it be wrong legally? Probably not.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41138405]I think you have this reversed, it is wrong morally, society has deemed it so, but should it be wrong legally? Probably not.[/QUOTE]
Morality is subjective and should not be the basis for a law.
You guys are all forgetting that as her teacher he was in a position of power so it was wrong and illegal not only because she's a minor.
This position of power doesn't mean he has to coerce or force her, it means that he coerced or forced her just by being in that position. That's why it's illegal. (I'm assuming it's illegal in the UK for a teacher to be romantically involved with a pupil no matter the age).
[editline]22nd June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Skarr;41138670]Morality is subjective and should not be the basis for a law.[/QUOTE]
Sorry what morality is the ONLY basis for law.
[QUOTE=Skarr;41138670]Morality is subjective and should not be the basis for a law.[/QUOTE]
Morality is subjective indeed, and morality is a heavy influence on legislation (the only alternative being philosophy and science I suppose [by philosophy I mean that people look at human social theories and make laws that follow that]). Laws are subjective too, obviously, as we are debating here, openly. Actually, what was the point of your post?
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