Republican Senator McCain will return Tuesday for healthcare vote
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[QUOTE=dogmachines;52505102]How much he "likes" someone is directly tied to how useful they are to him at the present moment.
Also the sky is blue.[/QUOTE]
"You're a great tool, John McCain. Exploitable - Reliable tool. Thank you, sucker."
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I so admire the "conviction" of a man who would crawl out of his death bed just to ensure that people like myself are abandoned by our medical system. What a brave hero he is, shambling into congress while brain cancer dissolves his ability to function, so that he may cast a vote that will strip health insurance away from 30 million people who aren't priveleged enough to afford the quality of care that he is receiving right now, and which virtually guarantees that millions of those people simply won't be able to get back on comprehensive health insurance plans after the provisions that were put in place to protect them from a predatory medical system are stripped away without reservation.
John McCain, who has spent the last year talking about how "disturbing" Donald Trump's actions as president have been, while simultaneously toeing the party line on every single subject, is a man with [I]real and honorable conviction[/I] for wanting to condemn millions of Americans to poverty, illness, injury, and death at the hands of a broken Republican healthcare plan that values profit over human life.
God bless you, Mr. McCain.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;52504575]I wonder, just how quickly people who consider access to health care a luxury would change their minds if they fell on hard times?.
It's easy to get all righteously indignant and call people entitled when you aren't the one dying of a preventable condition because you can't meet the price tag someone else has slapped on your health, or even your life.[/QUOTE]
Or to rant about taxes and big government and socialism, but 100% expect fire trucks and ambulances to show up if your mansion catches fire or you get in a nasty car accident.
-snip- confusion is happening.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52504863][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889798407228989441[/media]
Absolute fucking cuntbag.[/QUOTE]
What a bitch, this is such a transparent guilt trip it's absolutely disgusting
To beg for McCain to vote yes after what he said about all of our POW veterans is the most insulting thing I've ever seen a President do.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52503769]one would hope this would cause him to change his mind on rescinding healthcare from 20-32 million people[/QUOTE]
Why though, what does he care.
He voted yes, he can go fuck himself.
McCain voted to repeal it.
You unbelievable, festering, senile old shiteater.
I can't believe I ever respected this piece of shit.
The best possible light one can put on for him is that his brain cancer messed with his reasoning.
There was a day he was regarded as a hero, but that day passed a long time ago
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there's really no other way to explain using your last few months before death from terminal brain cancer to ensure as best you can that millions of americans lose healthcare other than pure evil and malice
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he gets nothing out of this personally, the only explanation is that he's just that fucking full of hatred for poor people
Still dont think they'll have the votes to repeal or pass anything related to healthcare. VP had to break the tie here.... on a proceedural vote.
Also isn't this just to start debates or is it more sinister?
Won't Rand just go back to being no after and thus giving the No side 51 and the yes 50, thus killing it? Rand is a wacky libertarian but he's consistent in his voting. Am I wrong or does it still seem like the Bill is in big trouble?
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;52505904]Also isn't this just to start debates or is it more sinister?
Won't Rand just go back to being no after and thus giving the No side 51 and the yes 50, thus killing it? Rand is a wacky libertarian but he's consistent in his voting. Am I wrong or does it still seem like the Bill is in big trouble?[/QUOTE]
If McCunt says they'll repeal now and replace later(they won't) then he'll vote yes just to get rid of it.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52505916]If McCunt says they'll repeal now and replace later(they won't) then he'll vote yes just to get rid of it.[/QUOTE]
There are still 9 other "concerned" voters (exluding the other 2 who voted no on simply debating it) according to [url=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/25/us/politics/senate-vote-republican-health-care-bill.html]this[/url]
Only one of them need to say no, hopefully the moderate wing has one of them kill it if they go down the replace later route.
for a man I once respected a lot, I sure have lost 100% of it as of now.
Go fucking die in a ditch McCain.
Most of the analysis I'm seeing suggests that the Repubs will try and repeal the individual mandate and some of the market protections? The idea seems to be to cripple Obamacare to the point where any politician that didn't vote to replace a (purposefully) broken system in a few years would be seen as a monster.
McCain is a piece of shit, doesn't matter much to me if he was a POW at one point. That doesn't equal a free pass for his actions today.
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It passed. This doesn't mean that ACA is repealed, but it's a big step towards that end, and represents a major "victory" for the wealthy congressmen of the Republican party, and a crushing defeat for literally every other man, woman, and child in the country.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;52505790]What a bitch, this is such a transparent guilt trip it's absolutely disgusting
To beg for McCain to vote yes after what he said about all of our POW veterans is the most insulting thing I've ever seen a President do.[/QUOTE]
Just goes to show that money can't buy class, I guess.
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It passed. This doesn't mean that ACA is repealed, but it's a big step towards that end, and represents a major "victory" for the wealthy congressmen of the Republican party, and a crushing defeat for literally every other man, woman, and child in the country.[/QUOTE]
Not every. There were plenty of common folk who were convinced that the ACA was complete garbage and made everything unimaginably worse.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52505979]Just goes to show that money can't buy class, I guess.
Not every. There were plenty of common folk who were convinced that the ACA was complete garbage and made everything unimaginably worse.[/QUOTE]
Being "convinced" it's garbage doesn't mean they won't suffer if it's repealed, or that people they care about won't suffer. The US's entire medical industry gains the ability to once again prey on the elderly, the poor, the disabled, the injured, and the sick if the ACA is repealed without a competent new framework in place. The only people who won't be affected by this are those of incredible wealth and perfect health.
I'm not trying to defend the guy or anything but I think what's happened to him is that he completely lost the will to fight the Republican party after the election, probably due to a combination of failing health, Trump's insults towards him going unanswered, and him effectively becoming an outcast in his own party by the end of Obama's second term.
Can we at least have the few people here who supported the wholesale destruction of American healthcare come out and cheer?
I mean, if it's honestly that good of a thing, wouldn't you be anyways?
John "Fuck You, Got Mine" McCain will pass knowing his last major contribution may well be fucking over people fighting his same illness and going bankrupt for it.
You fought for and suffered for your country only to become another cog in the corrupt machinations of a tyrannical manchild and his panel of greed mongering cronies. Sad.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52506096]Can we at least have the few people here who supported the wholesale destruction of American healthcare come out and cheer?
I mean, if it's honestly that good of a thing, wouldn't you be anyways?[/QUOTE]
It's a shame calling out members by name is bannable because there's a few people whose opinion on this I would absolutely [I]love[/I] to hear.
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