A sharp spike in racist incidents reported after the Brexit vote
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[QUOTE=Skanic;50604527]Why don't they give it a break, they lost get over it. Bunch of sore losers.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if you are responding to a person or talking about the people in the article.
If you mean the latter, these are the people who Won, not lost.
Anyway, I honestly didn't think there would be a ton of xenophobic people in Britain, I honestly thought the Country would be full of nice people.
Guess you learn something new every day.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50604691]You know one county is not gonna be accepted as a valid source right?
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Quoting this because absolutely fucking LOL
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire#People[/url][/QUOTE]
I was in sleaford, grantham, boston and lincoln on the last bank holiday weekend and I can say from experience that it is the main stay of conversation how many eastern europeans have arrived in the last year.
[QUOTE=Xonax;50604743]I don't know if you are responding to a person or talking about the people in the article.
If you mean the latter, these are the people who Won, not lost.
Anyway, I honestly didn't think there would be a ton of xenophobic people in Britain, I honestly thought the Country would be full of nice people.
Guess you learn something new every day.[/QUOTE]
It is. Most of Britain is great and and advise anyone to visit it
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50604744]I was in sleaford, grantham, boston and lincoln on the last bank holiday weekend and I can say from experience that it is the main stay of conversation how many eastern europeans have arrived in the last year.[/QUOTE]
oh well i guess your anecdotal experience totally invalidates that census statistic then huh
[QUOTE=Killuah;50604742]Actually it's suggested that most areas where there was a long period of no contact with foreigners and a sudden influx in the last decades is what spawns resentments.
It's very evident here in Germany where the former GDR areas, especiall the ones with the lowest foreigner percentage vote for the nationalistic parties.[/QUOTE]
Which is the case in Lincolnshire. Large and sudden influx.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50604745]It is. Most of Britain is great and and advise anyone to visit it[/QUOTE]
What apart from the 17 million you mean?
[QUOTE] And you wonder why people start thinking that a good portion of the leave-supporters are ....well. You just demonstrated it. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50604775]What apart from the 17 million you mean?[/QUOTE]
No not all leave supporters are assholes. We've gone over this.
Why do you keep suggesting this?
Are you so desperate for a winning view in the argument you seek to thrust a strawman upon us?
No most british people are alright even if they are easily mislead or caught up in a fervour of irrationality.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50604772]He has data you have anecdotes, pretty awesome
And lol it was the refugee crisis first now the problem is eastern europeans? What did EE people do?[/QUOTE]
People had an issue with heavy immigration.
Not me as I don't live there. I am not condoning their reasoning merely telling you how a lot of them felt Leave was their best option.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50604781]No not all leave supporters are assholes. We've gone over this.
Why do you keep suggesting this?
Are you so desperate for a winning view in the argument you seek to thrust a strawman upon us?
No most british people are alright even if they are easily mislead or caught up in a fervour of irrationality.[/QUOTE]
think you're barking up the wrong tree if you're looking for reasonable argument from the guy who just posted [I]fucking lincolnshire[/I] as an example of a "heavy migrant populated area"
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50604788]People had an issue with heavy immigration.
Not me as I don't live there. I am not condoning their reasoning merely telling you how a lot of them felt Leave was their best option.[/QUOTE]
Well you've expressed your views on immigration in other threads so you probably shouldn't try to disown them for the sake of looking like you're making an unbias observation. You are entitled to your views.
Lots of people did see immigration as a legit reason to leave the EU but the "norway scenario" many leave officials spoke of means we get free movement in the EU - implying nothing at all would change with regard to immigration. Cept maybe people leaving because of bad economy and maltreatment.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50604781]No not all leave supporters are assholes. We've gone over this.
Why do you keep suggesting this?
Are you so desperate for a winning view in the argument you seek to thrust a strawman upon us?
No most british people are alright even if they are easily mislead or caught up in a fervour of irrationality.[/QUOTE]
Come on, the general consensus here has been that leave voters are either racist or poor misguided souls who can't see sense because they don't understand anything.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50604814]Come on, the general consensus here has been that leave voters are either racist or poor misguided souls who can't see sense because they don't understand anything.[/QUOTE]
Yes that does seem to be the general consensus here.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50604814]Come on, the general consensus here has been that leave voters are either racist or poor misguided souls who can't see sense because they don't understand anything.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't include all of them and I am capable of interacting with people in a friendly manner despite shortcomings on their side because I know I have some stupid views that can't help as well but as long as we're honest about ourselves shit can be worked out and can even be productive.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50603442]Wow
Because this tweet proves that all leave voters are racist?[/QUOTE]
No, it proves they're fucking retarded-- together of course with all the economic and political consequences that have come about as a result of them voting to leave that prove the same thing, even when taken on their own.
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Yes[/QUOTE]
Yeah when you mention it, I think you are right when you say bald men are racists! I mean just look at all these racists!
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So does this mean that the UK is finally going to get it's head on correctly and finally start driving on the right (read: correct) side of the road?
I won't sit next to a bald man in the bus anymore.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50605059]Yeah when you mention it, I think you are right when you say bald men are racists! I mean just look at all these racists!
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Knowing your older posts this probably isn't even sarcasm or a joke oh god
[editline]27th June 2016[/editline]
Also Voldemort IS a racist, lol even if it was a joke it wouldn't.. wait...no this is getting to complicated for me
[QUOTE=Killuah;50603224]So who is arguing again that people voted for this out of completely legitimate criticism of the EU?
[editline]27th June 2016[/editline]
[media]https://twitter.com/ShulemStern/status/746287583462854656[/media][/QUOTE]
yup
that just looks like another day in Hackney to me
[QUOTE=Govna;50604939]No, it proves they're fucking retarded-- together of course with all the economic and political consequences that have come about as a result of them voting to leave that prove the same thing, even when taken on their own.[/QUOTE]
Call this anecdotal i don't give as shit but i know alot of leave voters and none of them have issues with brown people or forigners, i admit they do have issues with people who happen to be foreign and cheating the state (i myself do too and yes i do know some personally) but that's not the overall opinion of migrants.
As i said in another thread, For the last 8 years, most of England has been under a Tory Rule, the majority of England did not want them. But the Tories got in anyway and have proceeded to fuck with the lower / working classes.
The lower classes in England are not being listened too by the Goverment at all, the Tories just stick their fingers in their ears and shout 'la la la' as loud as they can while systematically destroying everything the lower classes depend upon, things like the NHS, Social Housing, Disability Benefits and then doing awful shit like Zero fucking bullshit hours contracts. The general public in England is scared, fearful and above all Angry because the Tories are walking all over them, and no one was making any real attempt to stop them and 'fight' the everyman corner. Scotland was different because they had the SNP to turn to (i'd arguably say for the wrong reasons). No fucker in England or Wales is voting for the SNP. That is essentially a bunch of votes pissed up the wall for all the working class, it doesnt stop the Tories, it lets them do what ever they want and pushes the SNP towards it's goal and causes a divide. It's not all SNP's fault though, alot of that goes to Labour because it'd turned into another fucking Tory party which pushed the scottish vote away, destroyed itself and still trying to recover. The point i'm making is, the English voters and Welsh, were abandoned by their scottish counterpart and left up shit creek alone with noone listening to them.
Except for one person, Nigel from UKIP.
That prick 'listened' alright and he promised to fix peoples situation, give them a voice and save the institutions the Tories were taking apart peice by peice. Fucking fantastic ... excpet he and UKIP spin the problems into being caused by Immigrants and the EU.
There's ALOT of anger and hatred here for the goverment and it is completely justified because peoples lives have been fucking destroyed by the Tories, but people like Farrage have directed that hated of the Tories towards the wrong target. It's striking how similar this situation is to a certain country in 1930's.
Stop calling the general Leave voters racist idiots, the answer is far more tragic that that.
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;50605199]Call this anecdotal i don't give as shit but i know alot of leave voters and none of them have issues with brown people or forigners, i admit they do have issues with people who happen to be foreign and cheating the state (i myself do too and yes i do know some personally) but that's not the overall opinion of migrants.
As i said in another thread, For the last 8 years, most of England has been under a Tory Rule, the majority of England did not want them. But the Tories got in anyway and have proceeded to fuck with the lower / working classes.
The lower classes in England are not being listened too by the Goverment at all, the Tories just stick their fingers in their ears and shout 'la la la' as loud as they can while systematically destroying everything the lower classes depend upon, things like the NHS, Social Housing, Disability Benefits and then doing awful shit like Zero fucking bullshit hours contracts. The general public in England is scared, fearful and above all Angry because the Tories are walking all over them, and no one was making any real attempt to stop them and 'fight' the everyman corner. Scotland was different because they had the SNP to turn to (i'd arguably say for the wrong reasons). No fucker in England or Wales for that matter is voting for the SNP. That is essentially a bunch of votes pissed up the wall for all the working class, it doesnt stop the Tories, it lets them do what ever they want and pushes the SNP towards it's goal and causes a divide. It's not all SNP's fault though, alot of that goes to Labour because it'd turned into another fucking Tory party which pushed the scottish vote away, destroyed itself and turned into a fucking Tory party. The point i'm making is, the English voters and Welsh, were abandoned by their scottish counterpart and left up shit creek alone with noone listening to them.
Except for one person, Nigel from UKIP.
That prick 'listened' alright and he promised to fix peoples situation, give them a voice and save the institutions the Tories were taking apart peice by peice. Fucking fantastic ... excpet he and UKIP spin the problems into being caused by Immigrants and the EU.
There's ALOT of anger and hatred here for the goverment and it is completely justified because peoples lives have been fucking destroyed by the Tories, but people like Farrage have directed that hated of the Tories towards the wrong target. It's striking how similar this situation is to a certain country in 1930's.
Stop calling the general Leave voters racist idiots, the answer is far more tragic that that.[/QUOTE]
That guy who wants to privatize national health care?
[QUOTE=Killuah;50605209]That guy who wants to privatize national health care?[/QUOTE]
Ironically yes.
Farage is no better than the Tories. He's worse than them, in fact, because he's pro-privatisation and anti-immigration. He'd run the UK into the ground in a heartbeat.
And hell, you know what? Look around you.
He's already started.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50605398]They are adults. If your whole argument is that they are naive and misled, that loops back to them being idiots.
"They are all racists" is a hyperbole, that is true. Only a miniscule of them are racists, but the rest have a guilt by association, sadly. It doesnt matter whether they are personally racist or not, they happily barged in on the same cause; leave the EU, drive out the immigrants.
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They have empowered the racists by siding with them, now we are seeing the results. They are guilty.[/QUOTE]
If only we had some sort of democratic platform where different aspects can be discussed and one group woldn't have to be merged with racists and retards despite having the same goal
[QUOTE=Govna;50604939]No, it proves they're fucking retarded-- together of course with all the economic and political consequences that have come about as a result of them voting to leave that prove the same thing, even when taken on their own.[/QUOTE]
I would not call them all retarded, just horribly horribly misinformed.
That being said I did come across an old lady who tried to argue that the EU was dictating us and just disregarded what I said when I told her about the power of Veto the the UK has.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50605059]Yeah when you mention it, I think you are right when you say bald men are racists! I mean just look at all these racists!
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Well you say that but Ghandi was quite the hothead back when he was younger, and well all know that in movies Mister Steward has played the roles of "Genocide Picard" and Professor "Mutie supremacy" Xavier.
Also the blue man group never give anyone the time of day... or say anything ever! I bet it's because they don't want to associate with us "pinkies"
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[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50605443]Retarded s an agry way of putting idiot.
Idiot is a perfect way to describe a person who votes on a topic they know fuckall about.[/QUOTE]
The issue is more they think they know what they are voting on, they just don't know that the information they had was wrong.
its fucking annoying when i explain to my family half of this stupid racist shit, they believe its justified.
:unimpressed:
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;50601505]I'm as much of a fan of TTGL as anyone else
but why in public[/QUOTE]
Because it's a nice shirt?
I didn't even know what it was from until you told me.
[QUOTE=thisguy123;50605447]Well you say that but Ghandi was quite the hothead back when he was younger, and well all know that in movies Mister Steward has played the roles of "Genocide Picard" and Professor "Mutie supremacy" Xavier.
Also the blue man group never give anyone the time of day... or say anything ever! I bet it's because they don't want to associate with us "pinkies"
[editline]27th June 2016[/editline]
The issue is more they think they know what they are voting on, they just don't know that the information they had was wrong.[/QUOTE]
Ghandi was a racist he hated black people which makes his post even more stupid than it already was after he didn't get the sarcasm
[QUOTE=Killuah;50606571]Ghandi was a racist he hated black people which makes his post even more stupid than it already was after he didn't get the sarcasm[/QUOTE]He was a racist in his youth but it was pretty common. He then changed his views.
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