John Bolton: Israel only has 8 days to strike Iran
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[QUOTE=ohadje;24235977]Britain promised entire Palestine to the Jews at 1917 in the Balfour Deceleration and made it an official statement at 1922 - but that's totally irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
But before that it was promised to the arabs after the arab revolt against the turks, go look it up if you dont believe me.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24235977]You do not support peace. When you'll admit it - you might have some creditability.[/QUOTE]
Indeed i do, but unfortunatley this situation calls for all israeli lands to be turned over to the palesitinians, but unfortunatley they wont give it up peacefuly.
[editline]05:08PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236004]I did search...
The only one I found is Moshe Katsav, but that was taken out of context:
"President Moshe Katsav said yesterday that Israel would never stoop to the brutality the Palestinians displayed in the stoning to death of two Tekoa teenagers this week.
"There is a huge gap between us and our enemies - not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience," Katsav told reporters at Beit Hanassi.
"We would never stoop to the kind of brutality inflicted on the victims in Tekoa and Ofra," he added. "They're our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who don't belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."
Katsav said Israel must change its approach to the Palestinians, but stopped short of voicing exactly what that new approach should be -- although he appeared to imply that retaliation is at times necessary.
"Force is no solution to anything," he said, "but sometimes it's essential."
Referring to the brutal murders of two young boys from Tekoa, Katsav said he is sure there are Palestinians and other Moslems who oppose terrorism, but it was terrifying to realize how much cruelty and hatred the Palestinians harbor against Israelis. (Jerusalem Post, May 11, 2001)"
That's the full context. As you can see he's talking about HAMAS/Fatah/terrorists, not the ordinary Arab.[/QUOTE]
Nope, i did search one of those quotes i mentioned in the last post, indeed it was true.
[editline]05:09PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24235996]You got 2. You got all of Jordan and a fair bit of land West of the river too. The Palestinians would only be peaceful because their neighbors wouldn't attack them and they would slaughter as many jews as they could.[/QUOTE]
Yea with stones, those are so deadly to a group of people armed with state of the art weaponry.
[quote]But before that it was promised to the arabs after the arab revolt against the turks, go look it up if you dont believe me.[/quote]
It was never made official. Britain promised both the Jews and the Arabs that it will support their national movements if they'll act against the Ottomans. The Jewish leadership engaged in espionage against the Turks ([url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nili]Nili[/url]), and fought against the Turks (HaShomer and others)- and the Arab population did too.
After Britain divided Palestine and gave the bigger half to the Arab Hashamite Dynasty, it made the statement of Lord Balfour official (at 1922) - promising entire Palestine to the Jews.
[QUOTE]Indeed i do, but unfortunatley this situation calls for all israeli lands to be turned over to the palesitinians, but unfortunatley they wont give it up peacefuly.[/quote]
Well, at least that's one step.
Now, just admit you're full of it.
[quote]Nope, i did search one of those quotes i mentioned in the last post, indeed it was true.[/quote]
Keep repeating that ya 7bibi.
And to end this:
لا تستسلم للإرهاب
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24235996]You got 2. You got all of Jordan and a fair bit of land West of the river too. The Palestinians would only be peaceful because their neighbors wouldn't attack them and they would slaughter as many jews as they could.[/QUOTE]
:frogdowns:
[QUOTE=Random94;24236050]Yea with stones, those are so deadly to a group of people armed with state of the art weaponry.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what you think I said but you do realise that if Israel was taken by Arabs then they would slaughter the Jewish population. I'm sure you would actively take part in the killing of those evil jews who took your land.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24236215]I'm not sure what you think I said but you do realise that if Israel was taken by Arabs then they would slaughter the Jewish population. I'm sure you would actively take part in the killing of those evil jews who took your land.[/QUOTE]
OK enough with the trolling.
[QUOTE=starpluck;24236233]OK enough with the trolling.[/QUOTE]
But it's so much fun, why would I stop?
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24236215]I'm not sure what you think I said but you do realise that if Israel was taken by Arabs then they would slaughter the Jewish population. I'm sure you would actively take part in the killing of those evil jews who took your land.[/QUOTE]
The funny part is that he has nothing to do with this land, and his country expelled 400,000 Palestinians (many are probably native Kuwaities) - an expulsion he expressed support of "because all of them (HIVEMIND MODE: on) supported Saddam!".
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236118]It was never made official. Britain promised both the Jews and the Arabs that it will support their national movements if they'll act against the Ottomans. The Jewish leadership engaged in espionage against the Turks ([url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nili]Nili[/url]), and fought against the Turks (HaShomer and others)- and the Arab population did too.[/QUOTE]
After Britain divided Palestine and gave the bigger half to the Arab Hashamite Dynasty, it made the statement of Lord Balfour official (at 1922) - promising entire Palestine to the Jews.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236118]Well, at least that's one step.
Now, just admit you're full of it.[/QUOTE]
I said they can turn them over peacefuly or we have no choice but to use military force and take it from them and give it to the palistinians, they were promised ALL of palistine by the british. i never mentioned massacres or any of that stuff, so therefore i wish this dispute could in the transfering of the territories israel is currently occupiying peacefully, so your wrong with me wanting war.
You mean Egypt and all the other Arab states do the dirty work while you sit back in your country cheering.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24236215]I'm not sure what you think I said but you do realise that if Israel was taken by Arabs then they would slaughter the Jewish population. I'm sure you would actively take part in the killing of those evil jews who took your land.[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt do such as thing honestly but in my eyes those illiegal jewish immigrants who got to palestine mostly from europe will be treatd the same as illegial immigrants, they would be deported to where they came from.
Do you support me being expelled from my homeland?
[QUOTE=Random94;24236309]I said they can turn them over peacefuly or we have no choice but to use military force and take it from them and give it to the palistinians, they were promised ALL of palistine by the british. i never mentioned massacres or any of that stuff, so therefore i wish this dispute could in the transfering of the territories israel is currently occupiying peacefully, so your wrong with me wanting war.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to fight. If you don't give me what I want then I will kill you, but I don't want to fight.
I still want to see the Arabs try to attack Israel again. Last time they were slaughtered and their militaries are far worse than Israel right now.
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[QUOTE=ohadje;24236368]Do you support me being expelled from my homeland?[/QUOTE]
It's not your homeland, it's his homeland. Don't you understand you zionist pig, you are an illegal immigrant and will be deported back to whatever country you haven't lived in for decades.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236337]You mean Egypt and all the other Arab states do the dirty work while you sit back in your country cheering.[/QUOTE]
Not really no, but i just want them to do what is neccisary and leave it at that, actually i would get shocked at israeli civilians getting massacared by the arab armies if that ever happened.
[quote]actually i would get shocked at israeli civilians getting massacared by the arab armies if that ever happened.[/quote]
Oh yeah?
I won't.
Devodiere, shut up troll.
[editline]05:27PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236454]Oh yeah?
I won't.[/QUOTE]
Obvously those armies do have laws of war, it would be doubtful if such a thing happened.
I wouldn't be shocked either because I'd probably be dead :X
[quote]Obvously those armies do have laws of war, it would be doubtful if such a thing happened.[/quote]
Are you actually saying that the Arab countries give a shit about "laws of war"?
REALLY? You don't wanna enter there.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236619]Are you actually saying that the Arab countries give a shit about "laws of war"?
REALLY? You don't wanna enter there.[/QUOTE]
As if the IDF does
I make more legitimate posts than you do Random, the occasional trolling doesn't mean you can ignore me.
[editline]12:32AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Random94;24236647]As if the IDF does[/QUOTE]
Yah, they do. If they didn't then they would just flatten all of Gaza to save them the hassle.
[QUOTE=Random94;24236647]As if the IDF does[/QUOTE]
When Israel will go [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre]Hama'd[/url] on Gaza, you'll be able to say that.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24236666]Yah, they do. If they didn't then they would just flatten all of Gaza to save them the hassle.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.map-uk.org/files/244_destroyed_gaza.jpg[/url]
[url]http://imeu.net/engine2/uploads/2/gaza-city-destroyed-buildings.jpg[/url]
[url]http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/gaza_1227.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gaza-attack-mosque.jpg[/url]
[url]http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/developing-world-stories/css/computer%20engineer%20Ahmed,%2042,%20in%20front%20of%20the%20Gaza%20home%20he%20built%20for%20his%20family%20destroyed%20by%20Israeli%20bulldozers%20%28picture%20from%20Save%20the%20Children%29.jpg[/url]
[url]http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/14/xin_472010613214834351682.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2009/01/10/03_gaza_destroyed.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/02/xin_4320106030729812102113.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/02/content_10594773.htm&usg=__k8AYge-OtnsdIWAdvw4BzHuNygg=&h=300&w=450&sz=66&hl=en&start=25&zoom=1&tbnid=9NZ4rxzDWoHLOM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=188&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDestroyed%2Bgaza%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D581%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C990&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=709&vpy=203&dur=135&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=212&ty=100&ei=nONvTO64DIqRjAfz5Lz7CA&oei=iONvTNTIEc7DswaRoLS6Bg&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:25&biw=1024&bih=581[/url]
[url]http://ipsnews.net/pictures/GazaBombed1.jpg[/url]
Theres plenty Where that came from.
[QUOTE=Random94;24236790][URL]http://www.map-uk.org/files/244_destroyed_gaza.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://imeu.net/engine2/uploads/2/gaza-city-destroyed-buildings.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/gaza_1227.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gaza-attack-mosque.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/developing-world-stories/css/computer%20engineer%20Ahmed,%2042,%20in%20front%20of%20the%20Gaza%20home%20he%20built%20for%20his%20family%20destroyed%20by%20Israeli%20bulldozers%20%28picture%20from%20Save%20the%20Children%29.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/14/xin_472010613214834351682.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2009/01/10/03_gaza_destroyed.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/02/xin_4320106030729812102113.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/02/content_10594773.htm&usg=__k8AYge-OtnsdIWAdvw4BzHuNygg=&h=300&w=450&sz=66&hl=en&start=25&zoom=1&tbnid=9NZ4rxzDWoHLOM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=188&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDestroyed%2Bgaza%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D581%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C990&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=709&vpy=203&dur=135&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=212&ty=100&ei=nONvTO64DIqRjAfz5Lz7CA&oei=iONvTNTIEc7DswaRoLS6Bg&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:25&biw=1024&bih=581[/URL]
[URL]http://ipsnews.net/pictures/GazaBombed1.jpg[/URL]
Theres plenty Where that came from.[/QUOTE]
:iceburn:
You... you mean... Israel launched missiles on buildings... and.. AND THESE BUILDINGS WERE DESTROYED?!
[QUOTE=starpluck;24236809]:iceburn:[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp49/WolvieAE86/Funny%20pictures%20and%20GIfs/Stone-Cold.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236822]You... you mean... Israel launched missiles on buildings... and.. AND THESE BUILDINGS WERE DESTROYED?![/QUOTE]
These happened to be civilian buildings, i dont see them having hamas fighters in them.
[QUOTE=Random94;24236852]These happened to be civilian buildings, i dont see them having hamas fighters in them.[/QUOTE]
You're right, they should have group-hugged in front of the camera.
While being dead.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236822]
[IMG]http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp49/WolvieAE86/Funny%20pictures%20and%20GIfs/Stone-Cold.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Please don't ever use that .gif again. You just devalued Stone Cold.
[QUOTE=ohadje;24236897]You're right, they should have group-hugged in front of the camera.
While being dead.[/QUOTE]
That is if you can find them, or at least whats left them among the other dead people of gaza.
[QUOTE=Random94;24236790][url]http://www.map-uk.org/files/244_destroyed_gaza.jpg[/url]
[url]http://imeu.net/engine2/uploads/2/gaza-city-destroyed-buildings.jpg[/url]
[url]http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/gaza_1227.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gaza-attack-mosque.jpg[/url]
[url]http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/developing-world-stories/css/computer%20engineer%20Ahmed,%2042,%20in%20front%20of%20the%20Gaza%20home%20he%20built%20for%20his%20family%20destroyed%20by%20Israeli%20bulldozers%20%28picture%20from%20Save%20the%20Children%29.jpg[/url]
[url]http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/14/xin_472010613214834351682.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2009/01/10/03_gaza_destroyed.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/02/xin_4320106030729812102113.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/02/content_10594773.htm&usg=__k8AYge-OtnsdIWAdvw4BzHuNygg=&h=300&w=450&sz=66&hl=en&start=25&zoom=1&tbnid=9NZ4rxzDWoHLOM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=188&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDestroyed%2Bgaza%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D581%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C990&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=709&vpy=203&dur=135&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=212&ty=100&ei=nONvTO64DIqRjAfz5Lz7CA&oei=iONvTNTIEc7DswaRoLS6Bg&esq=3&page=3&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:25&biw=1024&bih=581[/url]
[url]http://ipsnews.net/pictures/GazaBombed1.jpg[/url]
Theres plenty Where that came from.[/QUOTE]
Oh no, destroyed buildings! They must kill everything they see!
If you had any idea about warfare, destroyed buildings are an inevitability for ANY combat. For the amount of fighting that has been going on, it would be more disturbing if there weren't any destroyed buildings. There's a good chance that at least one of those photos is from a completely different conflict and no-one can tell the difference.
[editline]12:43AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Random94;24236953]That is if you can find them, or at least whats left them among the other dead people of gaza.[/QUOTE]
So not only can you see invisible dead bodies in there, you can tell they aren't Hamas?
[QUOTE=Random94;24236953]That is if you can find them, or at least whats left them among the other dead people of gaza.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's kind of hard to spot them since they are using civilians as camouflage.
[QUOTE=starpluck;24236921]Please don't ever use that .gif again. You just devalued Stone Cold.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp49/WolvieAE86/Funny%20pictures%20and%20GIfs/Stone-Cold.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Devodiere;24236955]Oh no, destroyed buildings! They must kill everything they see!
If you had any idea about warfare, destroyed buildings are an inevitability for ANY combat. For the amount of fighting that has been going on, it would be more disturbing if there weren't any destroyed buildings. There's a good chance that at least one of those photos is from a completely different conflict and no-one can tell the difference.[/QUOTE]
Nope, those are all from the gaza war, also i doubt you know anything about warfare either so your not the one to judge me on that, got that armchair general.
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