[QUOTE=Broseph_;28253529]Estonia
Higher murder and firearms homicide rate than the United States
Now what? :smug:[/QUOTE]
uh estonia's lower on the list
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;28252705][url]http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir_percap-crime-murders-firearms-per-capita[/url]
Name a developed country that's higher than the United States on this list.
[editline]24th February 2011[/editline]
Also, Japan, a country with very strict gun laws has almost no gun violence. Also, 60% of murders committed in Japan are Yakuza(Japanese mafia) related.[/QUOTE]
Yes because firearms are the only thing that matters. The near complete homogeneous nature of Japan coupled with a relatively low poverty rate has nothing to do with murder at all.
Furthermore firearm homicides ARE A POINTLESS STATISTIC. No shit people are going to use firearms for homicides.
The only statistic that means anything is homicides per capita. Even then that is a false statistic given the vast size of the United States coupled with the stark changes in culture between locations and poverty rates.
If you really want a statistic, go find out how many concealed carry holders are convicted of murder every year in the United States.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;28252705]Also, Japan, a country with very strict gun laws has almost no gun violence. Also, 60% of murders committed in Japan are Yakuza(Japanese mafia) related.[/QUOTE]
The Japanese people have been disarmed for more than 60 years. Even police don't have firearms.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;28252661]
Now, lets try this, Canada, only 10 million people difference, stricter gun laws, yet more school shootings[/QUOTE]
the number of school shootings are still so small in both cases as not to be indicative of anything
Next up: Guns on elementary school campus.
[QUOTE=J!NX;28260894]Next up: Guns on elementary school campus.[/QUOTE]
Not really, as the only people who would be carrying on college campuses are legal adults and have a CC permit. Elementary school isn't really the same deal.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;28258345]uh estonia's lower on the list[/QUOTE]
Not according to these lists
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate[/url]
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