• Guns on College Campus? What.
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[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;28186127]IMHO the only "weapon" I'd carry is this: [img_thumb]http://rarebirdfinds.typepad.com/rare_bird_finds/images/2007/09/25/beltbuckle.jpg[/img_thumb] More than enough for me...[/QUOTE] Bringing brass to a gun fight isn't going to help you buddy. You're fifty feet away from me and I have a gun. Are you gonna dodge my bullets and run zig zag at me like you're evading an Alligator, until you get close enough to have effective range. I have approximately 5 seconds to shoot you if you run in a straight line, which would be easy to shoot, 15 seconds if you are bouncing around like a bitch.
[QUOTE=hegrec;28186242]Bringing brass to a gun fight isn't going to help you buddy. You're fifty feet away from me and I have a gun. Are you gonna dodge my bullets and run zig zag at me like you're evading an Alligator, until you get close enough to have effective range. I have approximately 5 seconds to shoot you if you run in a straight line, which would be easy to shoot, 15 seconds if you are bouncing around like a bitch.[/QUOTE] Who is dumb enough to run at a person with a firearm with a melee weapon everyone does not think life = call of duty
Keep in mind, the only people carrying concealed guns on campus, are people who are old enough (21 and up) which will include mostly seniors, and staff members. People who get CCWs have to go through a rigorous training course, and know what kind of responsibility they're taking on by having the power to defend themselves and their classmates by use of deadly force. I really like this because I've never seen the point of "gun free zones". Its never stopped anyone from bringing a gun, or other lethal weapon into the zone, and use such weapon for criminal intents. I think it'll be interesting to see how this plays out, and to see whether or not there are any accidental discharges or shootings over stupid shit (ie an argument)
[QUOTE=Nachoman17;28186220]Until someone shoots you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=hegrec;28186242]Bringing brass to a gun fight isn't going to help you buddy.[/QUOTE] FYI, only pussies carry guns. Real men [B]fight[/B].
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;28186392]FYI, only pussies carry guns. Real men get shot.[/QUOTE]ftfy
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;28186392]FYI, only pussies carry guns. Real men [B]fight[/B].[/QUOTE] Only pussies carry more effective weapons? Great logic there.
All I can see from this is more, [URL]http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/january/192195/Florida-State-student-dead-and-another-arrested-in-accidental-shooting-off-campus[/URL] [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;28186392]FYI, only pussies carry guns. Real men [B]fight[/B].[/QUOTE] Never been in a fight I'm willing to bet.
A handgun would be fine, but some big ass tacticool shotgun would not.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28185253]Anyone carrying concealed weapons on campus should be required to enter their name on a public registry that any student attending the school has access to so everyone knows who has guns Beyond that all normal laws for concealed carry should apply[/QUOTE] Not a bad idea actually. Though I would change a few things.
On College? Really? Its not like you're gonna get mugged on College. And even if, I hate that stupid redneck "oh weall ima defend ma self coz u know dere coud be a robba or some shit and ima shoot em coz ima bad ass american and im all for freedom an shit". You don't need a fucking gun. If I'd walk down the streets and know everyone probably has a usp in their jacket I'd be scared.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;28185054][URL="http://azstarnet.com/news/article_04bbcfb9-3a0a-5474-868f-9d0521a7add5.html"] Lolhi [/URL] [b]Then a guy has a bad day with some bible thumper calling him a wasteless sack of flesh, and an OK Corral happens in a matter of seconds.[/b][/QUOTE] Then having the guy die within minutes due to just about everyone having a gun with them
Fight fire with fire?
[QUOTE=Numidium;28187086]On College? Really? Its not like you're gonna get mugged on College. And even if, I hate that stupid redneck "oh weall ima defend ma self coz u know dere coud be a robba or some shit and ima shoot em coz ima bad ass american and im all for freedom an shit". You don't need a fucking gun. If I'd walk down the streets and know everyone probably has a usp in their jacket I'd be scared.[/QUOTE] Scared of what? That they'd be so trigger-happy as to shoot you for an argument over what condiments are better on hot dogs? Think seriously now, and consider two things: 1. How long it takes to be able to get a CCP, and 2. The training and clean criminal record you need to have one. Do keep in mind that any criminal who's going to come shooting will ignore the law anyway, so the criminal factor is irrelevant to the response you may give.
[QUOTE=Numidium;28187086]On College? Really? Its not like you're gonna get mugged on College. And even if, I hate that stupid redneck "oh weall ima defend ma self coz u know dere coud be a robba or some shit and ima shoot em coz ima bad ass american and im all for freedom an shit". You don't need a fucking gun. If I'd walk down the streets and know everyone probably has a usp in their jacket I'd be scared.[/QUOTE] You'll realize how irrational this fear is once you've been around the people who have a CCW permit.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;28187141]Scared of what? That they'd be so trigger-happy as to shoot you for an argument over what condiments are better on hot dogs? Think seriously now, and consider two things: 1. How long it takes to be able to get a CCP, and 2. The training and clean criminal record you need to have one. Do keep in mind that any criminal who's going to come shooting will ignore the law anyway, so the criminal factor is irrelevant to the response you may give.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about the criminals. I'm talking about someone who comes drunk down the street and has a pistol in his hand. I'd rather have that guy try to punch me instead of him having a gun, if he has problems with me or wants to start a fight. Also, I think just having a gun makes you more trigger happy by itself. Why would you get a gun if you don't plan on shooting someone, no matter if its in a self defence situation or not. If you get a gun, you're anticipating using it. [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Gubbinz96;28187195]You'll realize how irrational this fear is once you've been around the people who have a CCW permit.[/QUOTE] Maybe I should move to America to test your argument.
This is a wonderful idea! Now, if only Ohio would follow suit, then the rest of the country. Maybe not in that order, but you get the idea. School shootings woul be much MUCH less common if there were, say, five guns on campus. Virginia Tech, Columbine, and other shootings may not have been as severe if there had been someone to fight back. The gun laws only stop Law Abiding Larry from brining a gun to class wiih him (when he's old enough to, of course), not Criminal Carl who is mentally unstable and has a gun to start shooting. It's simple detterence. There was a little comic that fits this, hang on.
[QUOTE=Numidium;28187086] If I'd walk down the streets and know everyone probably has a usp in their jacket I'd be scared.[/QUOTE] i wouldn't cause i'd be carrying a .40 glock under mine but seriously, you don't seem to realize that if someone wants someone else dead, they will kill them using other means besides a gun then you'll see a stabbing on the news instead of a shooting. it really doesnt matter and i'm actually comfortable with texas hording a mass amount of firearms because of the drug cartels pushing through the mexican border. better safe than sorry, bro
[QUOTE=Bletotum;28185074]the problem is morons who would start a shootout over some argument.[/QUOTE] Only with John Goodman.. "Mark it fucking zero! You stepped over the foul line!"
If you have a permit to carry, what difference does it make? People are acting like just anyone can carry. Do you realize 99% of the time you go to any store in the US there's multiple people carrying firearms concealed? How many shootings have you witnessed in your lifetime? Now, stop sobbing and screaming into the pillow, and realize it's a part of every day life.
Oh well. I can't find it. Basically, it's divided into four ctions, one with Columbine, Omaha Mall, Virginia Tech, and one other. They're all looking at theno gun signs wit weaponry in their hans, with the same thought in the middle "Good, noone will fight back here."
[QUOTE=Numidium;28187303] Maybe I should move to America to test your argument.[/QUOTE] I've carried daily for 6 years and have never had to draw my gun. You really don't have a clue.
I'm okay with this. I mean, if some crazy kid decides his life is worthless and is going to shoot up his school, he's not going to change that decision because guns aren't allowed on campus.
reminds me of how most households in switzerland have a assault rifle. [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] sounds like a good idea. almost
[QUOTE=DrMortician;28187449]I've carried daily for 6 years and have never had to draw my gun. You really don't have a clue.[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is... you didn't need your gun for 6 years. So you don't need one at all. Basically. Or am I missing your point?
[QUOTE=Numidium;28187303]I'm not talking about the criminals. I'm talking about someone who comes drunk down the street and has a pistol in his hand. I'd rather have that guy try to punch me instead of him having a gun, if he has problems with me or wants to start a fight. Also, I think just having a gun makes you more trigger happy by itself. Why would you get a gun if you don't plan on shooting someone, no matter if its in a self defence situation or not. If you get a gun, you're anticipating using it. [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] Maybe I should move to America to test your argument.[/QUOTE] You're picture of America sounds like the Wild West where some guy can walk in a bar, say the wrong thing, and then a huge shootout takes place. Doesn't quite work that way these days [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Numidium;28187486]So what you're saying is... you didn't need your gun for 6 years. So you don't need one at all. Basically. Or am I missing your point?[/QUOTE] No, it means that there's a very low chance of someone pulling a gun on you, but it's better to be prepared because its a possibility
[QUOTE=Numidium;28187486]So what you're saying is... you didn't need your gun for 6 years. So you don't need one at all. Basically. Or am I missing your point?[/QUOTE] point being that u cant rid of guns in the US and we're a completely different culture and economy america is not the uk the post below me is a perfect example of this
Being a Brit, this seems totally insane to me.
[QUOTE=Bletotum;28185074] edit I think a better solution would be dedicated security and areas for students to hide in an event like this. (nothing extra I just mean lockable closets and shit)[/QUOTE] The only issue with this is that it costs money. And it is far cheaper to pass a bill then it is to build designated areas and pay salaries.
Letting college kids, who are notorious for getting high/drunk/messing around/fighting/etc., carry guns on campus is one of the dumbest ideas I have heard so far. It's a whole different environment than your house or your neighborhood, it is an institution where more often than not a bunch of college kids live in close proximity and engage in interactions that are not always the most considerate of consequences. But then everyone believes that college kids are suddenly some of the most rational beings on this planet and having them carry guns is a marvelous idea that will allow them to stop any shooting. Bullshit.
[QUOTE=Canned Induvidual;28185082]pop pop pop texas' gonna suck Anyways, I doubt they will ever get a chance to use 'em for a good reason. [B]This just opens up for more[/B] school shootings[/QUOTE] Yet Texas has less school shootings than Germany
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