I should have a good old bible burn sometime and attract a media horde.
So, which building are they targeting next?
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778402]there would be no peace, humans fight eachother, if they aren't fighting over religion they're fighting over politics, or land, or resources
if you really think there would be even an ounce more of peace in the world without religion then you're terribly mistaken[/QUOTE]
And here comes the white knight of religion. Nope, the world would be a more peaceful place. Obviously as you've proven yourself I need no grounds to prove this on, i'm not gonna bother typing up a long paragraph about it. :sax:
And I did say semi-peace, I didn't say the whole world would be hugging and there would be rainbows everywhere, with unicorns flying on them.
[QUOTE=The fox;24778426]And here comes the white knight of religion. Nope, the world would be a more peaceful place. Obviously as you've proven yourself I need no grounds to prove this on, i'm not gonna bother typing up a long paragraph about it. :sax:[/QUOTE]
mkay, so people would just stop hating eachother suddenly if religion didn't exist? people wouldn't be racist, or wouldn't kill eachother over land or politics. nope if religion didn't exist everyone would be happy and unicorns would roam the earth spreading joy to all.
:downs:
The key word here is Tolerance.
Those who do stupid shit like this need more of it.
[QUOTE=The fox;24778426]And here comes the white knight of religion. Nope, the world would be a more peaceful place. Obviously as you've proven yourself I need no grounds to prove this on, i'm not gonna bother typing up a long paragraph about it. :sax:[/QUOTE]
Religion is not inherently evil. It doesn't [i]make[/i] people fight and act stupid.
People are just real good at twisting religion around to get others to fight and act stupid. It's not religion's fault, it's the people twisting it who are to blame.
The world would be just as bad without religion as it is now. People would still fight, they would just use something else to get people hating other people.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778451]mkay, so people would just stop hating eachother suddenly if religion didn't exist? people wouldn't be racist, or wouldn't kill eachother over land or politics. nope if religion didn't exist everyone would be happy and unicorns would roam the earth spreading joy to all.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
Check my edit, but just in case you are unable to, I said that I know there wouldn't be unicorns and rainbows everywhere if religion didn't exist, but at least if religion didn't exist you would have delusional people in control of nuclear weapons, with the capability to destroy the whole world over several times. :sax:
[QUOTE=The fox;24778426]And here comes the white knight of religion. Nope, the world would be a more peaceful place. Obviously as you've proven yourself I need no grounds to prove this on, i'm not gonna bother typing up a long paragraph about it. :sax:[/QUOTE]
Religion is a reality, unlike the world you would like to live in. There would be no such thing as "if there was no religion", because there would be some sort of a belief system, since humans feel comfortable following a higher power, and what higher power could there be than an omnipotent divine Creator?
Oh snap so are we going miss the opportunity to hear more of your brilliant comments and ideas? Damn...:(
At 4:26 it sounds like someone is saying "Pills here".
[QUOTE=The fox;24778486]Check my edit, but just in case you are unable to, I said that I know there wouldn't be unicorns and rainbows everywhere if religion didn't exist, but at least if religion didn't exist you would have delusional people in control of nuclear weapons, with the capability to destroy the whole world over several times. :sax:[/QUOTE]
so delusional people wouldn't exist if religion didn't exist? does that really make sense in your head?
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778451]mkay, so people would just stop hating eachother suddenly if religion didn't exist? people wouldn't be racist, or wouldn't kill eachother over land or politics. nope if religion didn't exist everyone would be happy and unicorns would roam the earth spreading joy to all.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
Too bad you can't even read what he said.
Yes these things would exist. But religious hate would not. There would be no shit about burning their shitty books, no shitty mosque building arguments and so on. While it would not make world peace, it would make world a lot more peaceful.
Religion is unneeded in our time, really.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778501]so delusional people wouldn't exist if religion didn't exist? does that really make sense in your head?[/QUOTE]
Delusional people in power, being praised for being delusional and saying that a non existent being tells them to annihilate other people simply because they don't follow the same teachings, wouldn't exist. Do you have any capability to think further than my own message goes, or does your train of thought end at my argument? :sax:
Man America is like the opposite of Indonesia...
In America mosques gets bashed and Qur'ans gets burned.
In here churches and Bibles gets burned.
Just earlier this morning a pastor was stabbed while preaching.
Why can't Christians and Muslims just get along. :sigh:
[QUOTE=johan_sm;24778525]Too bad you can't even read what he said.
Yes these things would exist. But religious hate would not. There would be no shit about burning their shitty books, no shitty mosque building arguments and so on. While it would not make world peace, it would make world a lot more peaceful.
Religion is unneeded in our time, really.[/QUOTE]
there would be all of that in another form, there would more no more peace as there is today
who are you exactly to say what is needed and not needed in our society?
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;24776896]Actually you are supposed to throw it in a river.[/QUOTE]
no thats puppies
[QUOTE=The fox;24778543]Delusional people in power, being praised for being delusional and saying that a non existent being tells them to annihilate other people simply because they don't follow the same teachings, wouldn't exist. Do you have any capability to think further than my own message goes, or does your train of thought end at my argument? :sax:[/QUOTE]
delusional people would still be in power, and delusional people would still follow them
There's half the people that argue that it's wrong to single out Islam and generalize it, then the other half are the ones saying Islam is a problem
Look at the world. You don't see any news reports about the Mormons, or Buddhist monks. It's always someone, Radical or not, from Islam. Islam is all over the news. Non stop, CONSTANT controversy. Hell even in Afghanistan, Security forces had to open fire to keep a bunch of protesters from STORMING the governor's offices (Which killed a couple). They were protesting that pastor's event of burning the Qur'an
Why do they get Sooooooo uptight and go sooo overboard? You can say Radical Islam does not equal all of Islam, but that's the same as saying the Phelps Family does not equal all of Christianity, only the Phelps Family doesn't number in the fucking Millions like these radicals do
[QUOTE=Impulse101;24778553]Man America is like the opposite of Indonesia...
In America mosques gets bashed and Qur'ans gets burned.
In here churches and Bibles gets burned.
Just earlier this morning a pastor was stabbed while preaching.
Why can't Christians and Muslims just get along. :sigh:[/QUOTE]
because too many people lack the capability of getting along whether or not it's over religion, race, or wearing different clothing
[QUOTE=Impulse101;24778553]Man America is like the opposite of Indonesia...
In America mosques gets bashed and Qur'ans gets burned.
In here churches and Bibles gets burned.
Just earlier this morning a pastor was stabbed while preaching.
Why can't Christians and Muslims get along. :sigh:[/QUOTE]
Because they both are religions of ignorance and intolerance.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778556]there would be all of that in another form, there would more no more peace as there is today
who are you exactly to say what is needed and not needed in our society?[/QUOTE]
Just my opinion. I do not have the power to actually say what is needed and what is not.
[QUOTE=Fetret;24778489]Religion is a reality, unlike the world you would like to live in. There would be no such thing as "if there was no religion", because there would be some sort of a belief system, since humans feel comfortable following a higher power, and what higher power could there be than an omnipotent divine Creator?
[/QUOTE]
Explain Atheists
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778579]delusional people would still be in power, and delusional people would still follow them[/QUOTE]
Clearly you are a lost cause, there is no point in trying to actually form some kind of logic with you. You read a message, completely disregard what I have said, then wander off on something completely unrelated, unless you just go on and claim what I said, only in reverse, without providing any proof for your reasoning. You should really learn how to argue with people, at least then you'll be able to counter a point without looking completely lost. :sax:
[QUOTE=TheTalon;24778585]There's half the people that argue that it's wrong to single out Islam and generalize it, then the other half are the ones saying Islam is a problem
Look at the world. You don't see any news reports about the Mormons, or Buddhist monks. It's always someone, Radical or not, from Islam. Islam is all over the news. Non stop, CONSTANT controversy. Hell even in Afghanistan, Security forces had to open fire to keep a bunch of protesters from STORMING the governor's offices (Which killed a couple). They were protesting that pastor's event of burning the Qur'an
Why do they get Sooooooo uptight and go sooo overboard? You can say Radical Islam does not equal all of Islam, but that's the same as saying the Phelps Family does not equal all of Christianity, only the Phelps Family doesn't number in the fucking Millions like these radicals do[/QUOTE]
that's ridiculous, there are just as many radical people from other religions as there are from Islam, the media is always trying to bring out any radical Islam, it's been like this since 9/11 and even before really
and again, people from Christianity are just uptight and go just as overboard
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[QUOTE=The fox;24778609]Clearly you are a lost cause, there is no point in trying to actually form some kind of logic with you. You read a message, completely disregard what I have said, then wander off on something completely unrelated, unless you just go on and claim what I said, only in reverse, without providing any proof for your reasoning. You should really learn how to argue with people, at least then you'll be able to counter a point without looking completely lost. :sax:[/QUOTE]
you've provided no proof, unless you consider your own word to be proof, you're an intolerant hypocrite
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778631]that's ridiculous, there are just as many radical people from other religions as there are from Islam, the media is always trying to bring out any radical Islam, it's been like this since 9/11 and even before really
and again, people from Christianity are just uptight and go just as overboard[/QUOTE]
Wow, have a tinfoil hat man. You're clearly paranoid and delusional. I guess that explains your lack of actually being able to form some kind of counter argument, or even basic form of logic. :sax:
[QUOTE=johan_sm;24778594]Because they both are religions of ignorance and intolerance.
Just my opinion. I do not have the power to actually say what is needed and what is not.[/QUOTE]
so why are so many Atheists, specifically on this forum, so intolerant and ignorant towards religion? and many other issues at that.
being an Atheist doesn't make you make a good person or a smart person, it's your belief and you can believe in that belief all you want, but when you go around and say how religion is bad and shouldn't exist and preach all sorts of misinformed crap, you are doing exactly what you claim to hate.
[QUOTE=The fox;24778655]Wow, have a tinfoil hat man. You're clearly paranoid and delusional. I guess that explains your lack of actually being able to form some kind of counter argument, or even basic form of logic. :sax:[/QUOTE]
Stop using that smiley in every one of your posts in an attempt to make yourself look witty and/or cool.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24778631]that's ridiculous, there are just as many radical people from other religions as there are from Islam, the media is always trying to bring out any radical Islam, it's been like this since 9/11 and even before really
and again, people from Christianity are just uptight and go just as overboard
[/QUOTE]
The worst thing in terms of terrorist acts, next to Islamic Radicals, is fucking PETA/ALF dude, and you see how active the radicals are...
You don't find that overwhelmingly disproportionate as all hell?
[QUOTE=The fox;24778655]Wow, have a tinfoil hat man. You're clearly paranoid and delusional. I guess that explains your lack of actually being able to form some kind of counter argument, or even basic form of logic. :sax:[/QUOTE]
right, because the media hasn't actually blown everything they can out of proportion, and people don't actually hate Muslims for nothing other than 9/11?
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[QUOTE=TheTalon;24778680]The worst thing in terms of terrorist acts, next to Islamic Radicals, is fucking PETA/ALF dude[/QUOTE]
there are plenty of terrorist organizations and people out there who have nothing to do with Islam
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;24778673]Stop using that smiley in every one of your posts in an attempt to make yourself look witty and/or cool.[/QUOTE]
A discussion for another day, though I am not using it to make me look witty or cool. I have simply used it for all my other posts in the past, and have continued doing so now. :sax:
I shouldn't let this sort of stuff get to me, but after seeing all the comments made by idiotic Americans who seem to believe all Muslims are terrorists who want to kill everyone who doesn't worship Islam...
I'm so angry right now, I didn't realise how fucking intolerant some people could be. I wanted to go out there and punch each and every one of them.
I've never let the internet affect me like this before, but that's because most of the time people saying things to annoy you do it because they're trolls, and are speaking out of their ass. These people actually BELIEVE what they are saying, and the majority of people AGREE with them.
PETA is fucking terrible too. I still don't know why they haven't been arrested for doing so much shit.
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