• Qur'an set on Fire at Ground Zero
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[QUOTE=JerryK;24779535]that may be so, it really may be, but they still have the right to build it there, just like this man has the right to burn the Quran. it may sound childish, but if people are going to complain about it and actually resort to violence because Muslims want to build something, then they should go ahead and do it. down here in Murfreesburo, which is not getting hardly any media attention, the Islamic community is building a new mosque and is getting a whole load of crap because of it, there is no reason other than intolerant and ignorant people who think the mosque is going to be a terrorist training base and dumb stuff like this. someone even set fire to some of the construction equipment set up.[/QUOTE] What kind of proof do you have for that? Or are you, once again, pulling bullshit out of your hat to try and victimize muslims?
It annoys me when people say "lolol u guys got trolllld by him! He such a good troll! xDxD" He's not a troll, he's an idiot with a stupid, intolerant idea. He's not doing it to mess with people, in HIS MIND he thinks it's the right thing to do. He's a dumbass, not a troll.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;24779509]It's not relgion, it's just stupid people. There's nothing in the Christian faith about how you should burn things that have to do with other relgions.[/QUOTE] :irony:
Poor muslims getting bullied. Muslims are like blacks. If it's against someone else, it's ok, but god forbid if it's a muslim.
[QUOTE=G71tc4;24779589]It annoys me when people say "lolol u guys got trolllld by him! He such a good troll! xDxD" He's not a troll, he's an idiot with a stupid, intolerant idea. He's not doing it to mess with people, in HIS MIND he thinks it's the right thing to do. He's a dumbass, not a troll.[/QUOTE] So, because he has a different view than you, he is automatically a dumbass?
[QUOTE=The fox;24779572]What kind of proof do you have for that? Or are you, once again, pulling bullshit out of your hat to try and victimize muslims?[/QUOTE] proof of what? i don't need to victimize Muslims, the intolerant and ignorant people all over the world have already done that [editline]10:52AM[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;24779613]Poor muslims getting bullied. Muslims are like blacks. If it's against someone else, it's ok, but god forbid if it's a muslim.[/QUOTE] how is that so? if a Muslim terrorist does something they can't wait to say he's a Muslim, when a Christian terrorist does the same thing, they won't even mention he's a Christian
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779623] if a Muslim terrorist does something they can't wait to say he's a Muslim, when a Christian terrorist does the same thing, they won't even mention he's a Christian[/QUOTE] Just like blacks. If it's a white criminal, no one mentions that, but if he's black it will usually be mentioned.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779623]proof of what? i don't need to victimize Muslims, the intolerant and ignorant people all over the world have already done that [/QUOTE] Yet still you bring up the fact that people don't want a Mosque where you live.. gee, I wonder
[QUOTE=johan_sm;24779654]Just like blacks. If it's a white criminal, no one mentions that, but if he's black it will usually be mentioned.[/QUOTE] yes, and that's a bad thing
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779535]that may be so, it really may be, but they still have the right to build it there, just like this man has the right to burn the Quran. it may sound childish, but if people are going to complain about it and actually resort to violence because Muslims want to build something, then they should go ahead and do it. down here in Murfreesburo, which is not getting hardly any media attention, the Islamic community is building a new mosque and is getting a whole load of crap because of it, there is no reason other than intolerant and ignorant people who think the mosque is going to be a terrorist training base and dumb stuff like this. someone even set fire to some of the construction equipment set up.[/QUOTE] Your're right it is childish and it no good can come from it. There's still a lot of paranoia since 9/11 so to me, the best course of action would be either to wait longer or come to some sort of agreement. Unfortunately, these people obviously don't want the best course of action. I mean, Donald Trump offered them like double what they paid for the property and they refused so their motives are definetely different than just wanting to innocently build a nice community center for muslims. These indications are what's going to make the paranoia and general racism worse.
[QUOTE=The fox;24779663]Yet still you bring up the fact that people don't want a Mosque where you live.. gee, I wonder[/QUOTE] so tell me then, what reason do they have to not want a Mosque?
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779681]so tell me then, what reason do they have to not want a Mosque?[/QUOTE] Perhaps they just don't want religious symbols? How should I know what they might think, it's completely unnecessary for you to further victimize them.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779681]so tell me then, what reason do they have to not want a Mosque?[/QUOTE] They don't want a Mosque there because they believe it's an insult to all the people who died there, as they were killed by Islamic extremists. I can empathise slightly, but I think it shouldn't really matter. Said extremists should not be the representation of all muslims.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;24779676]Your're right it is childish and it no good can come from it. There's still a lot of paranoia since 9/11 so to me, the best course of action would be either to wait longer or come to some sort of agreement. Unfortunately, these people obviously don't want the best course of action. I mean, Donald Trump offered them like double what they paid for the property and they refused so their motives are definetely different than just wanting to innocently build a nice community center for muslims.[/QUOTE] there's more to it then just money, the problem is not the Mosque, it's the ignorance of those who oppose it, they have no reason to oppose it or to fear Muslims just because a group of men who committed a terrorist act there 9 years ago because of the US's policy in the Middle East. if a church was being built in that same spot, would people fear it because the KKK are white Christians? would people fear it if it were an African American community center? would people fear it was an Irish community center, because they fear the IRA would use it as a base? this all comes down to nothing but ignorant and intolerable thinking by those who would hate others because they look or think differently [editline]11:00AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Darth_GW7;24779740]They don't want a Mosque there because they believe it's an insult to all the people who died there, as they were killed by Islamic extremists. I can empathise slightly, but I think it shouldn't really matter. Said extremists should not be the representation of all muslims.[/QUOTE] no sorry, i meant the Mosque in Murfreesburo. i understand that reasoning, and i don't completely support building the Mosque there, yet if that's what they want to do, they should every right to do it without meeting words of hate and intolerant acts [editline]11:01AM[/editline] [QUOTE=The fox;24779710]Perhaps they just don't want religious symbols? How should I know what they might think, it's completely unnecessary for you to further victimize them.[/QUOTE] so it's ok for them to hate Muslims for no reason other than they think all Muslims are terrorists? is it ok for them to set fire to the construction site of a building they don't approve of?
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779753]there's more to it then just money, the problem is not the Mosque, it's the ignorance of those who oppose it, they have no reason to oppose it or to fear Muslims just because a group of men who committed a terrorist act there 9 years ago because of the US's policy in the Middle East. if a church was being built in that same spot, would people fear it because the KKK are white Christians? would people fear it if it were an African American community center? would people fear it was an Irish community center, because they fear the IRA would use it as a base? this all comes down to nothing but ignorant and intolerable thinking by those who would hate others because they look or think differently [/QUOTE] It's funny, you sit here and defend the Mosque building, but when a church is burnt in the middle east? or when a priest is murdered down there, do you even give a flying fuck about it? Or when a Synagogue is burnt down, or a Jewish leader killed, do you care? No? Then why do you care so much about this? [quote]so it's ok for them to hate Muslims for no reason other than they think all Muslims are terrorists? is it ok for them to set fire to the construction site of a building they don't approve of?[/QUOTE] You have no way of knowing their reasons behind it, so you have no right to say that it is because of this or that that they supposedly don't want it there. Stop trying to victimize them, but I guess you can't.
[QUOTE=Vasili;24779061]Scientific theory is a little bit different to 'God did it'[/QUOTE] Yes it is, but you need educated people to understand scientific theory. In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth is much simpler.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779753] so it's ok for them to hate Muslims for no reason other than they think all Muslims are terrorists? is it ok for them to set fire to the construction site of a building they don't approve of?[/QUOTE] Yes?
[QUOTE=The fox;24779804]It's funny, you sit here and defend the Mosque building, but when a church is burnt in the middle east? or when a priest is murdered down there, do you even give a flying fuck about it? Or when a Synagogue is burnt down, or a Jewish leader killed, do you care? No? Then why do you care so much about this?[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware of such things. Of course, this is partly due to the media. They know anything to do with Islam will grab people's attention. [editline]05:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;24779819]Yes?[/QUOTE] Are you endorsing arson on the grounds that they disagree with another religion?
Wow, very mature There goes the little respect I had left for America.
[QUOTE=The fox;24779804]It's funny, you sit here and defend the Mosque building, but when a church is burnt in the middle east? or when a priest is murdered down there, do you even give a flying fuck about it? Or when a Synagogue is burnt down, or a Jewish leader killed, do you care? No? Then why do you care so much about this?[/QUOTE] um yes i would care just as much, but guess what, those Middle Eastern countries are not the US, they do not carry the constitution or freedoms that we do and what goes on there often times is terrible, but guess what we are not them, we are the US, we have a constitution and we have rights, and i don't give a shit if you believe in God or not, if your skin is white or black, you deserve every right that the men next to you has, and killing or committing any sort of terrorist act in the name of God or in the name of any other thing you might believe in is wrong [editline]11:05AM[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;24779819]Yes?[/QUOTE] so it's ok to resort to violence for no reason other than you don't like how someone else thinks?
[QUOTE=Fetret;24779810]Yes it is, but you need educated people to understand scientific theory. In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth is much simpler.[/QUOTE] No no, the actual Creationist theory is a little deeper than that, the many theories of science can just as easily be simplified too.
Taliban are scared of planes, last time they flew one it hit a building.
[QUOTE=soderholm13;24779855]Wow, very mature There goes the little respect I had left for America.[/QUOTE] No no no, please don't do this. This is the same thing as other people in similar threads going "Damn Muslims fucking up our world" or "Wow Muslims are trolled easy, which building will they blow up next?". Generalizing a population because of an occasional nutjob is not right.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;24779883]Taliban are scared of planes, last time they flew one it hit a building.[/QUOTE] the Taliban weren't behind 9/11
[QUOTE=Vasili;24779881]No no, the actual Creationist theory is a little deeper than that, the many theories of science can just as easily be simplified too.[/QUOTE] Creationist theory is a joke.
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[QUOTE=johan_sm;24779919]Creationist theory is a joke.[/QUOTE] evolution theory is a joke see how easy it is?
[QUOTE=Vasili;24779881]No no, the actual Creationist theory is a little deeper than that, the many theories of science can just as easily be simplified too.[/QUOTE] OK simplify and educate the masses then. Nobody is stopping you. And the Creationist idea (it is not a theory, there is no science behind it. Look even you slipped up) might be more complex but it is fed to the masses as "God did it".
[QUOTE=Boeing787;24779883]Taliban are scared of planes, last time they flew one it hit a building.[/QUOTE] The Taliban weren't behind 9/11. Edit: Wow, I'm fucking slow aren't I. [editline]05:14PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Fetret;24779939]OK simplify and educate the masses then. Nobody is stopping you. And the Creationist idea (it is not a theory, there is no science behind it. Look even you slipped up) might be more complex but it is fed to the masses as "God did it".[/QUOTE] Theories do not need scientific evidence to back them up - Creationism IS a theory. It's basically speculation. Theories lead to hypotheses.
[QUOTE=JerryK;24779936]evolution theory is a joke see how easy it is?[/QUOTE] Except there is no science behind creationism. Sorry your "comeback" is stupid.
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