Why Wolves Are Forever Wild, but Dogs Can Be Tamed.
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she had a litter of puppies when I was still pretty much a baby, I've got a picture somewhere of them climbing on me
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;39260939]Relevant:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_K._Belyaev[/url]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoB0pdhxfZs[/media][/QUOTE]
That video was very interesting, thank you for sharing that! It also enlightened me on this topic, those foxes are adorable. Hope they were treated well there, domestic and tamed.
[QUOTE=GunFox;39261238]Wolf dogs are more of a gamble.
There is no universal feature for wolf dog hybrids.
I have met ones that you'd never know they were half wolf except for how they appeared.
I know there are also ones that go full wolf and are effectively never domesticated.
They also come in shades in between though. A friend of my father's years ago had the weirdest wolf dog hybrid. It was eternally torn between being friendly and being aloof. The dog would wait in the woods or bushes and watch you, occasionally changing locations, but always staying inside cover. It would be unnerving except there was one way to always get him to come up to you-pet the other dog. Their other dog was just a lab and was totally normal. If you would pet him, the wolf hybrid would immediately get jealous and approach you to be petted. It worked [I]every[/I] time. The inside of that poor hybrid's head must be so confusing. He wanted attention so badly.[/QUOTE]
I hear a lot of it depends on the breed and how much wolf is in the mix
A very "wolf-like" breed of dog like a malamute or whatever (or any breed that tends to be very hard to train), mixed with wolf (so 50% wolf 50% dog) would be a nightmare to handle and probably act very wolf-like
But mixing a docile breed with wolf would likely have a more "tame" acting wolf-dog, or ideally having a dog breed with an established wolfdog already (so the offspring would be 1/4th wolf and 3/4ths dog) should provide less of a chance of "crazy" going on I'd imagine
[QUOTE=Vintage Thatguy;39258276]shit i wanted to ride a wolf[/QUOTE]
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Won't be invented for another 38,000 years.
I've always wanted to get a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maned_wolf]maned wolf[/url] due to the height of 'em, wouldn't have to bend over to pet it or whatever.
[QUOTE=mac338;39258527]Dogs are also but wolves are the bestest! <3
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I fucking love wolves!
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<- My Deviantart is proof of that.[/QUOTE]
Bears are far superior to wolves.
Fact.
I came here looking for wolf photos.
Anyone who breeds dogs should let fireworks off in their back garden when the puppies are at that stage of familiarising themselves with shit. You'd probably have a whole lot less distressed, and even, unfortunately, dead dogs during the New Year's period if they came to accept fireworks as something that just fucking happens every now and again.
so all I have to do is steal a newborn wolf? man if I knew that I'd totally have a dozen or so pet wolves
[QUOTE=sltungle;39262976]Anyone who breeds dogs should let fireworks off in their back garden when the puppies are at that stage of familiarising themselves with shit. You'd probably have a whole lot less distressed, and even, unfortunately, dead dogs during the New Year's period if they came to accept fireworks as something that just fucking happens every now and again.[/QUOTE]
Now I'm no expert in dogology, but I feel like that would just cause the puppy too much trauma anyways.
[quote]Why Wolves Are Forever Wild, but Dogs Can Be Tamed[/quote]
what the fuck.
it's common knowledge that dogs were domesticated from wolves and other feral canines
[QUOTE=daijitsu;39260668]if the dog understands that she's the provider and takes care of you, maybe it'd understand that the parent leaving is bad. Lots of dogs tend to be very nervous when owners leave the house, separation anxiety and the lack of understanding when you'll be back.[/QUOTE]
my friend's puppy cried when they left the house
lol i though it was funny and cute at the same time
[QUOTE=Atwal;39263054]Now I'm no expert in dogology, but I feel like that would just cause the puppy too much trauma anyways.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but for all we know it's equally (or more) traumatic for a puppy to see this huge, almost hairless bipedal creature lumbering over it. It's only a banging sound outside after all. I'm not saying launch fireworks NEXT to dogs or anything.
[QUOTE=sltungle;39262976]Anyone who breeds dogs should let fireworks off in their back garden when the puppies are at that stage of familiarising themselves with shit. You'd probably have a whole lot less distressed, and even, unfortunately, dead dogs during the New Year's period if they came to accept fireworks as something that just fucking happens every now and again.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how well that would work, but familiarizing them with fireworks helps a lot. My first dog is deathly afraid of fireworks because some dipshits threw a firecracker at us when I was walking her at 2am at new year's (she was maybe 8 months old). My other dog though, a Malamute, doesn't give a shit about loud bangs but won't go close to snow spades because they're extremely suspicious apparently
[QUOTE=Atwal;39263054]Now I'm no expert in dogology, but I feel like that would just cause the puppy too much trauma anyways.[/QUOTE]
It does cause increased stresslevels at first, but not after that. My dad used to take our dog everywhere he could when she was still a pup, train stations, she heared lot's of fireworks, he took her on the bus, etc. And now she isn't afraid of anything, whilst other dogs bark and cry as soon as their owner gets them on a bus, our dog doesn't give a fuck.
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Just get a Saarloos wolfhound if you must
[QUOTE=ItsMozy;39264321]It does cause increased stresslevels at first, but not after that. My dad used to take our dog everywhere he could when she was still a pup, train stations, she heared lot's of fireworks, he took her on the bus, etc. And now she isn't afraid of anything, whilst other dogs bark and cry as soon as their owner gets them on a bus, our dog doesn't give a fuck.[/QUOTE]
Similar story with a dog my extended family owns out in the midwest. They'd leave her in the workshop when she was 6 weeks old while working on stuff, and take her out when they went to the range. Saw blades, pneumatic tools, hammers, lawn mowers, vacuums, gunshots, none of that bothers her in the slightest. She didn't get much exposure to people though for the first 4 months so she's the biggest chickenshit animal you'll ever see around new people :v:.
This makes me think about the New Guinea Singing dog in how wolf like in behavor it is.
While its not possible to domesticate a wolf fully, it is possible to have a wolf accept human proximity, and even accept human beings as members of their flock.
[QUOTE=Alcoholocaust;39269488]and even accept human beings as members of their flock.[/QUOTE]
so it's easier to domesticate yourself
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