ICE detains a Polish doctor and green-card holder who has lived in the U.S. for nearly 40 years
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[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53072735]Move over to Europe. Most of it's cool, just avoid the UK right now.[/QUOTE]
I'm American and I'm honestly working on this. Wonder how many others like me there are because of this country.
[QUOTE=Destroyox;53073295]I'm American and I'm honestly working on this. Wonder how many others like me there are because of this country.[/QUOTE]
it's a pretty heavy thing to leave behind everything and everyone you ever knew, but i've been looking out for the chance to take a job overseas too. the government is rotted out by incompetence and corruption from federal to local, half of our population is fed a diet of propaganda, disinformation and lies from the cradle to the grave, and i can't see any signs of it getting better
[QUOTE=Destroyox;53073295]I'm American and I'm honestly working on this. Wonder how many others like me there are because of this country.[/QUOTE]
Many say they are, turns out it's not like other countries are just going to look at your passport at the border and welcome you in for <insert local European equivalent of tea and crumpets>. Immigration is hard, tedious, bureaucratic where you need to present real value to a government that will then need to decide whether you merit coming and living there.
I'm saying that as an immigrant to Canada myself, shit's excruciating - I started the process in December 2015, I finally landed in Canada on 14th September 2017. That's almost two years and that's actually quite quick by immigration standards. A lot of people have a ridiculously naive and amusing belief that being American means they can just waltz into any other country with ease and set up lives like it was just moving across the States. :v:
makes a lot more sense to move to a more liberal state than to move completely out of the country if you don't like how things are going.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53073335]Many say they are, turns out it's not like other countries are just going to look at your passport at the border and welcome you in for <insert local European equivalent of tea and crumpets>. Immigration is hard, tedious, bureaucratic where you need to present real value to a government that will then need to decide whether you merit coming and living there.
I'm saying that as an immigrant to Canada myself, shit's excruciating - I started the process in December 2015, I finally landed in Canada on 14th September 2017. That's almost two years and that's actually quite quick by immigration standards. A lot of people have a ridiculously naive and amusing belief that being American means they can just waltz into any other country with ease and set up lives like it was just moving across the States. :v:[/QUOTE]
I'm also quite certain most Americans would experience a borderline overwhelming culture shock. Things are way, way different in Europe than pretty much anywhere in the US, both when it comes to social values, politics, how the police acts etc.
[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;53074752]I'm also quite certain most Americans would experience a borderline overwhelming culture shock. Things are way, way different in Europe than pretty much anywhere in the US, both when it comes to social values, politics, how the police acts etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I still remember so many Facebook outrage posts written by people who were working as Baristas in Starbucks going "OMG I can't believe trump won I'm moving to Canada" and I look at them and start laughing considering the amount of shit I've had to do to get the points necessary to even qualify to get into the fucking immigrant pool. Not to mention the expenses:
* Police Clearance Certificates from each of the countries I lived in for more than six months, over ten years. Shit's fucking expensive and valid for a limited period of time, so you're permanently in a race to have them send it to you on time to submit it to the authorities for review and reliant on the post.
* Have about 12,000 + in CAD as savings to show I'm not going to be a burden on the Canadian welfare system (that I'm not eligible for anyway until I become a citizen, 4 years down the line, but as a Permanent Resident I still have tax obligations which is fair, so I actually put more into the system up front)
* Actual immigration fees, totalling about 1,500 CAD going straight to the CIC.
* Educational Certificate Assessments (ECA) for all my credentials, to prove that my qualifications are equivalent to the Canadian standard, i.e. my UK Master's degree is equivalent to the Canadian Masters under the Canadian system.
* A somewhat insulting ( :v: ) IELTS exam to 'prove' that I can speak English well to integrate into Canadian society. Didn't even study for that one, ended up with 8.5 / 9.0 , but still had to pay for it.
Then I need to sit with my passport and document (by matching entry/exit stamps) an accurate timeline of where I've been over the past 10 years. God help mercy on your soul if you've travelled a lot. By the time I was done, the effective total of documents I've scanned and had to dig out to account for a decade of my life (not including all my educational documents and transcripts) was a nice thick bundle of papers about four fingers in width. :v:
Then I look at Capt. minimum wage Barista over there ranting about how she's moving to Canada, in the face of all these expenses she'll need to go through, and I'm laughing my ass off at the naivety and the arrogance to assume that you can just wave an American passport at the door and every other country's socks are going roll up and down.
I doubt people who honestly want to leave think it’s easy dude
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